Rear Strut Bar??
JoeShmoe
07-30-2007, 10:04 PM
How or where would the rear strut bar mount on a '98 Eclipse? Could you tie 4pt harnesses to it?
SilvrEclipse
07-30-2007, 11:39 PM
It mounts to the top of the strut towers in the rear. Some people will mount their racing harnesses to them but its not recomended. If I were you I would just run them down the seat and bolt them to the floor board.
97gs-t teamrtv
08-01-2007, 12:21 PM
It mounts to the top of the strut towers in the rear. Some people will mount their racing harnesses to them but its not recomended. If I were you I would just run them down the seat and bolt them to the floor board.
I would have to disagree. I remember reading that you should mount them above shoulder height. Mine are mounted to the rear seat selt upper bolts. If you mount them on the floor board you can cause bad strain on your back in an accident.
I would have to disagree. I remember reading that you should mount them above shoulder height. Mine are mounted to the rear seat selt upper bolts. If you mount them on the floor board you can cause bad strain on your back in an accident.
SilvrEclipse
08-01-2007, 10:12 PM
I have never heard of anyone mounting them there. Im not really seeing the difference between mounting them there or on the floor. I mean if you have racing seat it going to come threw the back of the seat where the cut outs are. It really shouldn't make a different if you mount it down or to the side.
JoeShmoe
08-06-2007, 10:30 PM
I don't know, I guess regarless of where they are coming thru....I guess i just want a strong sturdy place to anchor them so I can take qicked turns at full throttle.
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Iceman1984
08-08-2007, 09:21 PM
Just fyi...not downing or flaming any1, but mounting your harnesses to the floorboard is a terrible decision. In an accident, they will pull down and if severe enough, break through your seats and start squeezing down on your body. Also, in high flex turns, the belts will pull as the body twists, and that may injure you also. There is a brace bar that is mounted behind the seats, and yes it's around shoulder height, that the belts should be mounted to.
JoeShmoe
08-10-2007, 08:35 AM
Just fyi...not downing or flaming any1, but mounting your harnesses to the floorboard is a terrible decision. In an accident, they will pull down and if severe enough, break through your seats and start squeezing down on your body. Also, in high flex turns, the belts will pull as the body twists, and that may injure you also. There is a brace bar that is mounted behind the seats, and yes it's around shoulder height, that the belts should be mounted to.
Its called a seat back brace. I'm not really sure but aren't they supposed to be used along with a roll cage?
Its called a seat back brace. I'm not really sure but aren't they supposed to be used along with a roll cage?
dsmtuner1987
08-15-2007, 10:32 PM
it has to do with the forces that affect your body when racing.
take your body and think of it as a car.... when you want to take a turn quickly, you can feel the pull on your body in the direction that you were going. that is because the car can react faster than your body can.
therefore, if you were to be in a wreck (lets use a head-on collision for example), your car would stop immediately, your body would still be going in that direction at the speed you were going until the harness would stop you.
i am going to agree with mounting them shoulder height on this topic, if you were in a wreck with them shoulder height, it would pull you back. if they were in the floor, they would pull you down into the seat causing some major strain on your back, and you will prolly be visiting the doctor and getting some news that the damage is permanent and you have a lifetime perscription for morphine, which by the way, is not a good thing.
i hope yall can make something of that. i am in no way a PhD in physics or whatever but i hope this helped
take your body and think of it as a car.... when you want to take a turn quickly, you can feel the pull on your body in the direction that you were going. that is because the car can react faster than your body can.
therefore, if you were to be in a wreck (lets use a head-on collision for example), your car would stop immediately, your body would still be going in that direction at the speed you were going until the harness would stop you.
i am going to agree with mounting them shoulder height on this topic, if you were in a wreck with them shoulder height, it would pull you back. if they were in the floor, they would pull you down into the seat causing some major strain on your back, and you will prolly be visiting the doctor and getting some news that the damage is permanent and you have a lifetime perscription for morphine, which by the way, is not a good thing.
i hope yall can make something of that. i am in no way a PhD in physics or whatever but i hope this helped
JoeShmoe
08-16-2007, 03:53 PM
it has to do with the forces that affect your body when racing.
take your body and think of it as a car.... when you want to take a turn quickly, you can feel the pull on your body in the direction that you were going. that is because the car can react faster than your body can.
therefore, if you were to be in a wreck (lets use a head-on collision for example), your car would stop immediately, your body would still be going in that direction at the speed you were going until the harness would stop you.
i am going to agree with mounting them shoulder height on this topic, if you were in a wreck with them shoulder height, it would pull you back. if they were in the floor, they would pull you down into the seat causing some major strain on your back, and you will prolly be visiting the doctor and getting some news that the damage is permanent and you have a lifetime perscription for morphine, which by the way, is not a good thing.
i hope yall can make something of that. i am in no way a PhD in physics or whatever but i hope this helped
shoulder height, and what in this car is sturdy enough to hold the strain put on it by a harness. I'll keep lookint to see what i can find.
take your body and think of it as a car.... when you want to take a turn quickly, you can feel the pull on your body in the direction that you were going. that is because the car can react faster than your body can.
therefore, if you were to be in a wreck (lets use a head-on collision for example), your car would stop immediately, your body would still be going in that direction at the speed you were going until the harness would stop you.
i am going to agree with mounting them shoulder height on this topic, if you were in a wreck with them shoulder height, it would pull you back. if they were in the floor, they would pull you down into the seat causing some major strain on your back, and you will prolly be visiting the doctor and getting some news that the damage is permanent and you have a lifetime perscription for morphine, which by the way, is not a good thing.
i hope yall can make something of that. i am in no way a PhD in physics or whatever but i hope this helped
shoulder height, and what in this car is sturdy enough to hold the strain put on it by a harness. I'll keep lookint to see what i can find.
Thor06
08-16-2007, 06:37 PM
Just fyi...not downing or flaming any1, but mounting your harnesses to the floorboard is a terrible decision. In an accident, they will pull down and if severe enough, break through your seats and start squeezing down on your body. Also, in high flex turns, the belts will pull as the body twists, and that may injure you also. There is a brace bar that is mounted behind the seats, and yes it's around shoulder height, that the belts should be mounted to.
:1: I know its been said on here already, but I would like to reiterate (if thats how you spell it) how important it is to not mount them to the floor boards. You want the harness to make a right angle (or as close as you can get) to the back of the seat. The aforementioned harness bar is really the way to go, but I have seen them bolted to the front part of the trunk floor too. I think thats where I am going to put them until I can get racing seats/harness bar.
:1: I know its been said on here already, but I would like to reiterate (if thats how you spell it) how important it is to not mount them to the floor boards. You want the harness to make a right angle (or as close as you can get) to the back of the seat. The aforementioned harness bar is really the way to go, but I have seen them bolted to the front part of the trunk floor too. I think thats where I am going to put them until I can get racing seats/harness bar.
dsmtuner1987
08-18-2007, 05:19 PM
i've actually seen them ran all the way to the back of the cars' trunk area but with that, you have the chance of having too much slack in the harness which is also a bad thing
rickyrickster25
09-02-2007, 10:09 PM
If you dont know.... the struts are located under these two plastic pannels on the back/hatch. They are on top of the two little humps near the back of the rear seats. Hope this helps, it is fairly easy.....
kjewer1
09-11-2007, 04:52 AM
For EVOs you can find a Harness Bar, which attaches to the upper seat belt "pulley" location, in addition to others. Sparco is one manufacturer. You can see if they make them for DSMs, but I have never seen them.
I would not mount them to a rear strut bar. They are meant to be rigid in the tensile direction, but I doubt they hold up well to shear forces. Additionally, as far as mounting location or belt angle goes, NHRA and IHRA have a maximum of 4 inches below shoulder height (for crossbar where belts attach) IIRC, and the SCCA gives you a maximum of 15 degrees. In no case do they allow you to mount the belts above shoulder height.
I would not mount them to a rear strut bar. They are meant to be rigid in the tensile direction, but I doubt they hold up well to shear forces. Additionally, as far as mounting location or belt angle goes, NHRA and IHRA have a maximum of 4 inches below shoulder height (for crossbar where belts attach) IIRC, and the SCCA gives you a maximum of 15 degrees. In no case do they allow you to mount the belts above shoulder height.
renoracer87
09-11-2007, 06:11 AM
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JoeShmoe
09-18-2007, 08:33 AM
http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_image.pl?bg=000000&image=http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/2723000-2723999/2723408_13_full.jpg
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The first pic shows a sticker, is it the maker of the bar? I looked at sparco's site and it was not that. Does anyone recognize the brand?
http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_image.pl?bg=000000&image=http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/2723000-2723999/2723408_20_full.jpg
The first pic shows a sticker, is it the maker of the bar? I looked at sparco's site and it was not that. Does anyone recognize the brand?
Thor06
09-18-2007, 11:36 AM
MachV used to have them for 2g's but I did a pretty extensive search one day and never found anything for 1g's.
Personally, I am going to spend a good weekend in my buddy's shop with a welder, some misc Del Sol plastic peices, and I am going to come out with a harness bar and a semi unique interior setup. I am going to strip the rear interior and shape up the harness bar. Once that is in place, I am going to do what I am referring to as a "2 seater conversion" because I have no idea what else to call it. I am going to use the plastic from right behind the driver/passenger seat from probably a Del Sol but maybe a Miata, MR2, Fiero, or whatever other 2 seater I can get plastic from and put it in the same spot on my Talon. I will trim, fit, mount etc it so the harness bar is hidden, but there is going to be holes for the harness to poke out. I will then use probably some 1/8" particle board and some carpet to make like a 3 ft "shelf" or whatever with a back on it, and the rest will be trunk space. I thought it would be a cool way to hide the harness bar and my C02 tank for my IC sprayer, plus people would quit asking me where my backseat went. We'll see how it goes though.
Personally, I am going to spend a good weekend in my buddy's shop with a welder, some misc Del Sol plastic peices, and I am going to come out with a harness bar and a semi unique interior setup. I am going to strip the rear interior and shape up the harness bar. Once that is in place, I am going to do what I am referring to as a "2 seater conversion" because I have no idea what else to call it. I am going to use the plastic from right behind the driver/passenger seat from probably a Del Sol but maybe a Miata, MR2, Fiero, or whatever other 2 seater I can get plastic from and put it in the same spot on my Talon. I will trim, fit, mount etc it so the harness bar is hidden, but there is going to be holes for the harness to poke out. I will then use probably some 1/8" particle board and some carpet to make like a 3 ft "shelf" or whatever with a back on it, and the rest will be trunk space. I thought it would be a cool way to hide the harness bar and my C02 tank for my IC sprayer, plus people would quit asking me where my backseat went. We'll see how it goes though.
rickyrickster25
09-18-2007, 10:05 PM
The logo you were wondering about is TEIN. They are an aftermarket suspension company.
JoeShmoe
09-20-2007, 08:06 AM
Sorry Rickster, i meant the brace bar for the harness. I really can't tell what the "S" logo is from. I saw the MachV, thanks Thor. 2 different braces, the MachV from the one in the pic.
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