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JonB91
07-29-2007, 12:43 AM
Hey im thinking about getting either a honda accord 2door or an acura tsx and im wondering, typically, what is the best way to make the car unique in terms of preformance, look ex. with aftermarket stuff. I dont want the "riceburner" look just something clean that turns some heads but i wont hate in 5 years im im doing job interviews more searious than the local golf club, you know.

anyways
CAI- good idea
Exaust - if i do it any suggestions for the cars that are better sounding than stock but again something that im going to find myself hatting
body kit?- may do it but anything that looks great but something that im going to be able to make speed bumps and railroad tracks (have to deal with going to school)

what kind of money am i looking at??

Anything else that will give it a clean fresh look that is not too the extreem

Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!

thefooshmeister
07-29-2007, 12:46 PM
how about you dont spend the money on a body kit at all..thats the cleanest youll find..nothin wrong with the jap style..then either get some aftermarket wheels either honda/acura premiums or whatever you want. do some tint on the windows..most ppl start modifying theyre car by usually adding an intake first then headers and exhaust..idk man its your car..but heres somethin to think about..theres always someone somewhere with a car like yours..its not gonna be a one of a kind without a crazy fab/paint job. so just look at some other cars and take the better ideas that they had and add them to your own..id say keep it pretty much stock. tsx's are already pretty sexy but i think theyre a little slow. accords will have a lot more aftermarket options..just dont go after the apc stuff at autozone lol

00accord44
07-29-2007, 12:54 PM
The aftermarket support is alot better for an accord vs a tsx. Thres a ton of stuff you can do to your car besides typical intake exhaust that can make it one of a kind and still clean. I personally wouldn't reccommend any body kits for the accord cause they take away from the factory look. I don't pur anything on my car that doesn't look like it could've come from the dealer that way. In the end its all up to what you think looks good and thats different for everybody. My suggestions:

CAI - for sound and gas mileage improvements

Lowering - Accords sit high and benefit greatly from a 1.5-2.5 in drop either by way of lowering springs or complete coilover set

Lights - heads and tails can be modded all kinds of ways. LEDs projectors, black housing, tinting, etc

Interior - a million things to change inside: fabric, lighting, guages, trim, electronics, sound system

Paint - repainting the car is costly but can make your car a head turner with a color set that matches the overall look of the car

Wheels - unlimited possibilities for wheels but 19 is the largest that should probably be on an accord, 18s look good, 17s also work. Stock wheels from acuras often look good on acords and you can powdercoat or paint the wheels to match the car also

Power - a world of options for adding power but it gets expensive quickly

JonB91
07-29-2007, 04:48 PM
yeah i know that the car is never going to be "one of a kind", if i do do a body kit, what is the diff between a body kit and ground effects (same thing?)

i would for sure not get the ones that touch the ground i just want ones that add an accent to the stock body, should i just go with the dealer installed option or is there a better one. o and if i buy it used like a 04 or 05 will the dealer still install the body kits they sell for the 07's, (same body i think)

i think i want to lower it a little, for the accord 1.5-2.5 inches ish, what about tsx and what kind of damage to the wallet am i looking at

i dont think i will repaint it loses value at resale

is the tsx really that underpowerd i read that it was a little suggish off the block but how slow do you know

and last thing, spoiler? small wing?

00accord44
07-29-2007, 05:17 PM
don't pay dealer prices for body mods unless you really really dig their designs. Ground effects kits and body kits are the same thing to me. Maybe there's some technical difference but I don't see any. You should probably look at the body kits thread stickied at the top of this forum.

Painting your car won't make it lose its value any faster than any other mods. Fact is, once you drive off the lot you lost the biggest chunk of value.

The tsx is underpowered when compared to other cars in its class (A4, C class, 3-series) because its really just a honda accord with an acura badge. Look at european accords of the same years and you'll see... we always get watered down everything over here.

And I've never been a fan of spoilers in general on hondas/acuras but thats your call. If you're going to get one I beg you not to get one that could substitute as a park bench

JonB91
07-29-2007, 09:46 PM
Yeah im thinking about for the spoiler something like this

http://www.sportcompactonly.com/images/products/3475/3475-l.jpg

or like this
http://www.sportcompactonly.com/images/products/3481/3481-164475-l.jpg

and for the body


http://www.sportcompactonly.com/images/products/229/229-69563-l.jpg



see how the body kit doesnt come that close to the ground, do you think that is a better look than the ones that go all the way to the ground
not those exactly and not in carbon or anything but those kind of styles and thats only if i decide to go with it


honestly for now i think at most for the car im just going to go with a cai, tint, and maby lower it some and see were it goes from there

and also what should i buy directly from the dealer, regardless of what car should i just get stock stereo, speakers, body, everything and figure stuff out aftermarket or what should i get from the dealer

00accord44
07-29-2007, 09:57 PM
The only thing anybody should ever buy from the dealer is the car and whatever they don't plan on changing. Hell, if you can get a tape deck instead of cd for cheaper then get it cause dealer upgrades are ridiculously priced

JonB91
07-29-2007, 10:04 PM
yeah?

alright, what do you think about that type of body kit and spoiler (small or bigger one in pic?)

if i were to offer you a free tsx or accord 2dr.
two thousand for imediate aftermarket and about another thousand a year later,
which one would you guys take (no bias)

00accord44
07-29-2007, 11:52 PM
Neither one of those spoiler impresses me much honestly. That kit is fairly mild but still too flamboyant for my tastes. I'm more of a simple chin spoiler and rear lip kind of guy. Plus I always think its strange to see a car with a body kit and no rims.

If I had a toss up between accord and tsx I'd probably take the tsx and use the $2K for some nice wheels and the lips. Something like this minus the spoiler although this is one spoiler I could deal with
http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/645/645777/mugen-tsx-20050826114609663.jpg

JonB91
07-30-2007, 12:00 AM
yeah thats kinda what i was looking for something to add a little body lower over the wheels, like i said the pics werent ones that im looking at just examples

what are the best sites to look at for this stuff, stportscompactonly ??

thanx for the pic that helps to visualize it, but you dont think the tsx is underpowered??

00accord44
07-30-2007, 11:37 AM
Body Kit Websites (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=15633)

The tsx is underpowered for the market it competes in but I'd take one over an accord which isn't a powerhouse either. Nissan has put the Accord to shame in factory power ratings since the 90s so if that was the only factor I'd be looking to Shift_something :wink:

JonB91
07-31-2007, 10:32 PM
so between the accord and tsx you think the tsx is the best option

00accord44
08-01-2007, 12:21 AM
As far as what I consider important, yes. Just weight the factors and see which comes out on top

Power: TSX
Looks: TSX
Aftermarket: Accord
Cost: Accord
Features/options: TSX

JonB91
08-01-2007, 01:04 AM
power tsx, i thought that the accord had more power,

JonB91
08-04-2007, 12:19 AM
we have found a really nice accord
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=735107&goto=newpost\ (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=735107&goto=newpost%5C)

we went to test drive it a couple times they want 19,995 for it (acceptable)

do you know of any low profile body kits or companies that make low profile stuff (everywhere i look is ony is 100% ricer-cant even get over a speed bumb stuff), like the pic of the tsx i want something like that for the accord. something to break up the round edges of the car

and my second question is the car is black on black on black everything black, what are your guy's veiws on how to add accents to the interior of the car, im looking for red accents, either leather inserts on the seats, dashboard accents of somesort, or interior dash lights being red.
i hope you can kinda visualize what im talking about and any help on how todo this would be helpfull, the only reason im asking is that i dont want to start another thread for it

00accord44
08-04-2007, 03:37 AM
I didn't know you wanted the v6 coupe. I assumed 4 cyl but I guess thats cause I still rep the 4 banger barrio :p But yes the V6 coupe does have more power than the tsx.

JonB91
08-04-2007, 11:15 AM
yeah, do you know about the accent part of my second question by any chance?

thefooshmeister
08-04-2007, 04:33 PM
reds alright..a lot of ppl mix it with black but if you want it to be clean do wood grain

JonB91
08-04-2007, 04:42 PM
im not a fan of wood grain its a little too much of a adult luxury look

00accord44
08-05-2007, 03:47 PM
Accent is whatever you want it to be. Some people like colored piping on seats, some like pinstriping, neon accent lights can look non-ricey if done right, interior LEDs are my personal fav. You can also use interior paint to change your color scheme. I painted the entire top portion of my interior black from the stock light blue and it gave the car that bat-cave feel I was looking for.

As far as interior led lighting goes, I use www.ledautomovive.com (http://www.ledautomotive.com) They don't have any kits specific to the 7th gen accord but if you look in your manual for the bulb sizes you have then you can do easy swapping. You also may want to check out www.v6performance.net (http://www.v6performance.net) for ideas

JonB91
08-05-2007, 04:57 PM
what type of interior paint do you reconmend? does it start to chip or gett really crappy after a while and how do you go about painting the interior, taking panels off and paintingthem or should i bring it into a shop and have them do it??

thanx for the help, the interor leds you showed me say they have red but no pics have you seen them before? the blue ones look great im wondering if the white or red look as good if they dont show pics

00accord44
08-05-2007, 05:21 PM
I have white, blue, and red led i've bought from them and they all look great. For paint, I used duplicolor interior paint. This is from another thread

what I would recommend for you to do is to take the piece you want to paint out completely n go into a garage after that make sure to clean the part with Windex to remove the stains it has… then apply 2 or more coats of adhesion promoter which I only found at auto zone also buy some paint for plastic its sold at Wal-Mart or Auto Zone and buy some gloss so it will help your paint to last longer..

this is a look of a piece i painted from my car
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6456/asdfks7.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfks7.jpg)
the adhesion promoter
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5605/dupcp199xo1.th.jpg (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dupcp199xo1.jpg)
the paint
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/679/0141151103wwlct5.th.jpg (http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0141151103wwlct5.jpg)
the gloss
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4201/matteclearqc6.th.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=matteclearqc6.jpg)

JonB91
08-05-2007, 05:32 PM
ok cool thanx, so you actually use spray paint more or less ?? isnt it hard to keep an even coat and not look like when i try to spray paint something for a school project lol

00accord44
08-05-2007, 05:45 PM
Yeah its spray paint formulated for plastics and fabrics. The key to spray painting is having a steady hand and applying an even coat. Paint an even row across all the way down the piece. Always use multiple light coats instead of one heavy coat. Let each coat dry before applying the next for the best outcome.

JonB91
08-05-2007, 06:05 PM
ok thanx, so just spray all the way down even and let it dry even if it doesnt completely cover all the color and just keep doing it until it does?

here is a pic from the interior of the car, what parts would you recomend painting in it, (all black car, all black interior), or would you paint it another color than red?
http://images.autotrader.com/images/2007/7/26/226/250/2549010492.226250753.IM1.07.565x421_A.562x421.jpg

Here is what someone recomended to do to the exterior:
"get that HFP lip kit.. tint your windows.. oem accord spoiler, if it already doesn't have one.. oem fogs.. intake... get the dual Greddy TiC exhaust. it doesn't take too much to make the newer accord coupe v6 look hot !"

would that look good on this
http://images.autotrader.com/images/2007/7/26/226/250/2549010487.226250753.IM1.02.565x421_A.562x421.jpg

00accord44
08-05-2007, 06:40 PM
A little red goes a long way so I suggest you watch how much you use. Maybe something like this
http://img2.putfile.com/main/8/21618301465.jpg

It looks like there's a lot of hardened polished plastic pieces and leather in there so there probably isn't much paintanble surface area.

JonB91
08-05-2007, 06:59 PM
wow that really helps thanx for taking the time to do that, so the hardened plastic is like the shiny parts on the center piece in between the two seats right.

as far as the led lights go, should i wire in some red ones or do the white or blue, and what do you think about what the person said i should do to the exterior, the oem stuff is just the stuff you get from the dealer.

00accord44
08-05-2007, 07:17 PM
Yeah, all the shiny plastic pieces are hardened with some sort of lacquer which would make painting it a hassle and plus it looks good with the shine which you won't be able to easily or cheaply duplicate.

LEDs can go pretty much anywhere you can imagine as long as you got skills and materials to plce them there. Vents, doorhandles, running boards, headlight housing, anywhere. Red/black is my personal favorite color combo but since your car is black you can do pretty much any color and make it work. You already have red needles in your guages so it'd be easy to match red led outputs for the rest of the guages, but if you want the needles another color it can also be done. My needles were orange and now:
http://photos-191.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v72/246/43/685180191/n685180191_254389_4425.jpg
http://photos-191.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v72/246/43/685180191/n685180191_254326_2500.jpg

and I put leds in the door also
http://photos-191.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v72/246/43/685180191/n685180191_254327_2827.jpg

JonB91
08-05-2007, 07:27 PM
yeah that looks really good, is your car black as well, the only thing i would be afraid of light wise if i did black and red would be it looking kinda gothic haha with the red light and everything else black

do you think putting small neons or just some led's under the driver and passenger places you put your feet would look good. ill have to think about the red, i could always paint the interior blue and do blue led's

do you think the OEM exterior body stuff looks good, should i buy them from the dealer at their price or try to find them somewere else?, do they even look good? \

thanx for the help by the way!!!!

00accord44
08-05-2007, 11:01 PM
nope, blue
http://photos-191.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v72/246/43/685180191/n685180191_254323_1527.jpg
http://photos-191.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sctm/v72/246/43/685180191/n685180191_254324_1860.jpg

Lights in the footwells looks good imo as long as the wiring is done correctly. I came back from school to find out my friend got a neon blacklight put on his dash and has the wire running exposed along the dash :disappoin

The oem body accents for the accord are actually pretty nice but you should see if you can find a better price online than what the dealer will charge you. They'll take an arm and a leg for having to install and paint the kit on a car that wasn't ordered from the factory with it.

JonB91
08-05-2007, 11:06 PM
yeah thats what im thinking too

is it a good idea to order something like that online? doesnt it bust in shipping, then you have to bring it in to the dealer or a shop to get put on and painted right.

should i just go to a shop off the bat and see what they can get from places that they get from trusted places?

00accord44
08-05-2007, 11:32 PM
Shipping can be risky especially when dealing with ebayers. Definitely see what shops in your area have and can order. Some places can break you off deals while other places may charge you as much as the dealer. Grab one of the Accord booklets from the dealer and see what prices are listed then compare it to the online/local shop prices.

JonB91
08-05-2007, 11:41 PM
yeah that sounds like a good plan, so all this stuff that we have been talking about isnt going to be mocked by the average person for being ricey right, i wouldnt think so it all sounds pretty slick

thanx for all the help with this you have answered all my questions very well

00accord44
08-05-2007, 11:53 PM
lol someone will always find a way to call your car "rice". I'm sure people consider my car rice cause the only engine work I have is an intake but those people can kiss off. But a nice lip all around and some tasteful lights is way more pimp than it is rice.

For some good rice, check out Riceboy.com (http://www.riceboypage.com) That site is an oldie but a goodie

JonB91
08-06-2007, 12:54 AM
lol love it, a couple of weeks ago none of that would have made sense to me but after doing car shopping im hooked on cars and cant wait a couple years until i can start taking oldies and restoring and tuning them, you guys hooked a new car enthusiast lol

i love the geo with the type-r and mugen logos lol
defently not the look im going for, im the guy who truely wants his car to look good, im not trying to get speed out of the accord i know its not the car, unlike the "rice-boy's" lol

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