Alfa Romeo 155 Jagermeister progress
sausage
11-09-2002, 06:04 AM
Only the interior's done. I'm thinking of adding more cables, but have no reference photos. Do you all think there'll be any carbon fiber surfaces in there?
Anyway I've arrowed some items below. Can all those techies explain what those 3 items are and where cables from them would lead to?
http://www.singaporeanimenews.net/alfa155prog.jpg
Anyway I've arrowed some items below. Can all those techies explain what those 3 items are and where cables from them would lead to?
http://www.singaporeanimenews.net/alfa155prog.jpg
bvia
11-09-2002, 07:13 AM
Those are affectionatly called "black boxes" and could be anything from engine management electronic control devices to electronic sensor information storage devices. I'd suggest that most of the wires would loop towards to engine area, but send a few to the rear (towards the rear end). They should all exit the driver's compartment.
hth,
Bill
:bandit:
hth,
Bill
:bandit:
joecwlaw
11-09-2002, 11:43 AM
yellow 155 DTM????
Midnight Racer
11-09-2002, 12:03 PM
Looks great so far.
primera man
11-09-2002, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by joecwlaw
yellow 155 DTM????
Ditto....i always thought they where Orange :confused:
yellow 155 DTM????
Ditto....i always thought they where Orange :confused:
fullbloodchop01
11-09-2002, 06:44 PM
:D lookin good post more pics :D
sausage
11-09-2002, 07:37 PM
Base coat is yellow.
Purpura Delujo
11-10-2002, 04:48 AM
Is this a Tamiya 155 Touring car? I just got one off Kris and I wanna know if they all came with engines etc, I'm thinking of making mine a street car, do they have those fat exaust pipes that the red super touring 155 in Gran turismo 2 has? Cant wait to see this thing in Orange, i think it will look very nice!
magicmanjk808
11-10-2002, 05:01 AM
looks pretty good. i can't wait to see completed pics. :D
sausage
11-10-2002, 05:26 AM
Should I use TS-31 Bright Oranga or H59 Orange? Is there an accurate Jagermeister color?
Anyway, can't do any painting today.. it's raining here.
Yes, it's the Tamiya model. No option for street parts, the whole thing is a racer from the ground up. Race interior, bodywork, etc.
Anyway, can't do any painting today.. it's raining here.
Yes, it's the Tamiya model. No option for street parts, the whole thing is a racer from the ground up. Race interior, bodywork, etc.
Purpura Delujo
11-10-2002, 05:57 PM
Hey its raining in AUS today aswell! Good to know its a Tamiya, i'm gettin the Bosch one (as you can see in sig) But I dont like big square race cars so i'm gonna just paint it some whacky colour and not put any decals on...maybe a couple actually....just stuff like that, but did yours come with those exhaust pipes that stick up from the back bumper? theres 2 on each side.
primera man
11-10-2002, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by sausage
Should I use TS-31 Bright Oranga or H59 Orange? Is there an accurate Jagermeister color?
Tamiya TS-12 Orange
Should I use TS-31 Bright Oranga or H59 Orange? Is there an accurate Jagermeister color?
Tamiya TS-12 Orange
sausage
12-05-2002, 01:28 AM
Progress pics. No decals, just the base coat.
Note the terrible fit of the front cowl. There were no warped parts, and the fit in nicely, but the alignment is terrible!!
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156-orange1.jpg
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156-orange2.jpg
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156-orange3.jpg
Note the terrible fit of the front cowl. There were no warped parts, and the fit in nicely, but the alignment is terrible!!
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156-orange1.jpg
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156-orange2.jpg
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156-orange3.jpg
M4tt83
12-05-2002, 04:03 AM
Tamiya kits don't have fitment problems like that; I'm pretty sure you've mucked something up along the way.
primera man
12-05-2002, 04:26 AM
Mmmmm......seems rather odd...have a good check over the kit again as i never had any probs at all :confused:
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/291822DSCF0143.JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/291822DSCF0143.JPG
sausage
12-05-2002, 05:18 AM
Ah. That's the thing, I'm very sure I never messed anything up. The problem is, if the bottom of the cowling is flush with the bumper, the side where it meets the main body will have a large gap. And if the side meets flush with the main body, the side that meets the bumper will have a gap.
Another problem with this model, which I'm very sure is a production problem, is that none of the wheels sit flat on the ground. Every one of the 4 wheels is cambered outwards, so that only the inside edges of the tyres are touching the ground. I have no idea if the real car is built this way, but I'm very sure I never did anything wrong.
Another problem with this model, which I'm very sure is a production problem, is that none of the wheels sit flat on the ground. Every one of the 4 wheels is cambered outwards, so that only the inside edges of the tyres are touching the ground. I have no idea if the real car is built this way, but I'm very sure I never did anything wrong.
sausage
12-05-2002, 05:39 AM
Here's what I mean. The front cowling only fits in these 2 positions:
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156sideview.jpg
A side view reveals that the chassis front is angled downwards rather than level with the main body. This obviously explains the huge gap.
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156sideangle.jpg
But.....
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156under.jpg
The front chassis is prevented from sitting level because part of it protrudes and forces it to be attached to the main chassis at an angle.
There's no mistake here, both parts only fit together one way, and this seems like a major fit problem.
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156sideview.jpg
A side view reveals that the chassis front is angled downwards rather than level with the main body. This obviously explains the huge gap.
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156sideangle.jpg
But.....
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156under.jpg
The front chassis is prevented from sitting level because part of it protrudes and forces it to be attached to the main chassis at an angle.
There's no mistake here, both parts only fit together one way, and this seems like a major fit problem.
nconceic
12-05-2002, 09:04 AM
Sorry but somewhere you have made a mistake, because I built two 155's and one of them was the Jagermeiter and I didn't have any fit problem. The model was perfect like always ion Tamiya models.
And another thing, you forgot to paint the windows rubbers.(Or not).
And another thing, you forgot to paint the windows rubbers.(Or not).
Rtuned
12-05-2002, 01:03 PM
My don't have that problem too. I build a Bosch 155 too, no fitting error. Check again, you might did something wrong and not notice it.
sausage
12-07-2002, 12:46 AM
Steps to fix fit problems:
[list=1]
Puzzle over what's wrong
Go over instructions again and again
Find no problem with assembly
Disassemble chassis into major components anyway
Re-read instructions
Re-assemble and cement into place
Find out that fit problem is still there
Pull hair out
Make a jig like this. Tie it tight with a rubber band to keep it flat. Place plastic sheet spacers below the front chassis to force it to bend upwards. Apply pressure so that the chassis bends in a way it's not supposed to. Imagine it groaning in pain.
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156jig.jpg
Blast the whole assembly with hot air from a hair dryer for 2 minutes.
Stand back and admire fit of the cowling.
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156fit.jpg
[/list=1]
[list=1]
Puzzle over what's wrong
Go over instructions again and again
Find no problem with assembly
Disassemble chassis into major components anyway
Re-read instructions
Re-assemble and cement into place
Find out that fit problem is still there
Pull hair out
Make a jig like this. Tie it tight with a rubber band to keep it flat. Place plastic sheet spacers below the front chassis to force it to bend upwards. Apply pressure so that the chassis bends in a way it's not supposed to. Imagine it groaning in pain.
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156jig.jpg
Blast the whole assembly with hot air from a hair dryer for 2 minutes.
Stand back and admire fit of the cowling.
http://machinemess.hypermart.net/156fit.jpg
[/list=1]
Jonno
12-07-2002, 01:34 AM
Ok people, you shouldn't blame him for the mistake. Even big companies like tamiya stuff up 1 or 2 kits. They aren't perfect you know...:)
Its coming along pretty nicely, good thing you didn't give up.
Its coming along pretty nicely, good thing you didn't give up.
ales
12-07-2002, 02:02 AM
Hehe :hehe: Good job, creative one! :D
primera man
12-07-2002, 03:55 AM
The height you took the photo from i thought step 12 was going to be that you had thrown it to the ground below !!!
sausage
12-07-2002, 04:12 AM
hahhahaha!!
Gainsbourg
12-07-2002, 08:01 AM
Lovely car this Alfa 155 DTM.
I’m appreciating very mush your work in this one sausage.
I’ll be waiting for future posts. ;)
I’m appreciating very mush your work in this one sausage.
I’ll be waiting for future posts. ;)
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