ca18det - sr20de

hey guys im bout to start a project, im going to buy a 180sx on the cheap with a ca18det in it then do an engine conversion to a sr20de, i hope to take the ca18det out and put the sr20de in my self then take the car to a mechanic to do the wiring loom and anything else for me, ive got a little list of parts:
sr20de
wiring loom
engine mounts
ecu
radiator hoses
thats all i can think of right now, and possibly a radiator.

or i can just buy a front cut and then i should have absloutley eveything i need for the conversion.

can someone please confirm that im on the right track? and inform me if im missing anything, im hoping to buy a car and do the whole thing for 12k aud. or under thats inc on road costs.

NM

metalhead has a point...but i still think the ca is too old.

dude, why would you put a sr20de in an already turbo 180sx...? either run the ca18 or buy an sr20det... running a DE engine is stupid if you want to make power on turbo or already have a turb engine in the car. and 12000 aud thats pretty damn expensive compared to how much it would cost here in NZ.




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he lives in australia....

OMFG...
1. ill do what i want.
2. everyone knows that imports in nz are cheaper then everywhere else.
3. i must have told everyone here about 5083747856487364784 times that i live in aus and am only on my pervisional liscense so i am not alowed to drive a turboed car.
4. ive told everyone NO im not going to wait the 2 years im going to be an impatient spoil little shit and do the swap.
5. i was asking for help and tips and bs not ur fu*%ing opinions.
6. im not looking for alot of power i want around 120kw from the sr20de then when i get off my pervisional liscence i do plan to turbo the engine and get alot more power out of it.

thanks....

OMFG...
1. ill do what i want.

go ahead, all i did was point out how retarded your ideas are.

2. everyone knows that imports in nz are cheaper then everywhere else.

everyone obviously doesnt because i didnt.

3. i must have told everyone here about 5083747856487364784 times that i live in aus and am only on my pervisional liscense so i am not alowed to drive a turboed car.

if a cop will actually fine/impound you for driving a turbo'd car even if it is the law i would be surprised. dont have a loud BOV and exhaust and get some lock down hood pins = solved.

4. ive told everyone NO im not going to wait the 2 years im going to be an impatient spoil little shit and do the swap.

thanks for clarifying that you are, in fact, a retard. enjoy your slow car little shit.

5. i was asking for help and tips and bs not ur fu*%ing opinions.

help and tips can be opinions sweety

6. im not looking for alot of power i want around 120kw from the sr20de then when i get off my pervisional liscence i do plan to turbo the engine and get alot more power out of it.

you wont get 120kw without a turb, and you wont be able to make much more if you turbo without rebuilding your engine with low comp pistons, beef rods, ect or use sr20det internals, squirters ect. not to mention the money you're gonna need to spend on the fuel system just to make it run a stock turbo.


and if you're soooo concerned about being legal how about the certification you're probably gonna need for the sr20de? i know here in NZ you would need one , even if it bolts in.

too bad you crashed your pulsar, now you're going to ruin a 180.

UR A FUCKING IDIOT
i already told u DICK HEAD that my pulsar wasnt smashed. and i got offered an autech sr20de with 148kw atw u RETARD, and u cannot drive a turbo car and there is no way around it dick head hood pins wont solve your problem and just caus u dont have a bov the insurance companies wont let it be insured under my name (or any p platers name) and if u were driving the car and had a smash ur screwed. so ur a fucking dick head dont question just answer. so metal head can you please not post in my thread any more caus im sick of ur bs already now i remember why i stoped posting here in the first place(caus of fucking dick heads like you) insulting people for no reason.. o and for ur dumb ass fuking info i have a friend who has a 180sx (one in my sig) and i asked him about the conversion and he said its an awesome idea id be the only one with a 180 on my p's and i would have a decent amount of power if i was to put a vvt sr20 in it. and my mate is running 320kw atrw. so thanks metal head for your stupid fuking response for no reason u fucking idiot. now can someone with a bit of sense reply.

UR A FUCKING IDIOT
i already told u DICK HEAD that my pulsar wasnt smashed. and i got offered an autech sr20de with 148kw atw u RETARD, and u cannot drive a turbo car and there is no way around it dick head hood pins wont solve your problem and just caus u dont have a bov the insurance companies wont let it be insured under my name (or any p platers name) and if u were driving the car and had a smash ur screwed. so ur a fucking dick head dont question just answer. so metal head can you please not post in my thread any more caus im sick of ur bs already now i remember why i stoped posting here in the first place(caus of fucking dick heads like you) insulting people for no reason.. o and for ur dumb ass fuking info i have a friend who has a 180sx (one in my sig) and i asked him about the conversion and he said its an awesome idea id be the only one with a 180 on my p's and i would have a decent amount of power if i was to put a vvt sr20 in it. and my mate is running 320kw atrw. so thanks metal head for your stupid fuking response for no reason u fucking idiot. now can someone with a bit of sense reply.



man i think you've been fag dancing with your friends a little too much lately. no, i'm not going to stop posting in your thread =) i dont remember anything about your pulsar other than it being written off but thats besides the point. autech sr20de? and how much are you paying for it? i would put my life on either that engine not making anywhere close to 148kw or being seriously worked, but also besides the point.

let me elaborate a little for you. i didnt say it was impossible to make power from an sr20de, just that you wouldnt without a turbo. why? because you'll need pistons, cams, head work, tune, ect to get it. think for a minute, how expensive is that shit? an sr20det would be cheaper by far, not to mention by the time you have saved the cash to build it your 2 years will probably be nearly up. you dont even know how to get the engine in your car and you're talking about all this shit.

lets say you actually do it and build up the sr20de. you'll have just spent $$$$ on an engine that not too many people will want to buy (if you choose to sell it in the end) and makes less power than your ca18 with 10 times the cost of mods.

speaking of insurance i didnt know it was compulsary in aus. how fucking expensive do you think it will be when they see all the shit done to your car? i drive my skyline around with no insurance. guess my balls are just bigger than yours?

and remind me why i give fucks about your "friend" with the 180sx? what the fuck does that information have to do with anything. i see 320kw on shitty unsafe setups all day. give me a fucking break 12 year old.

did i forget to point out that the questions in this thread are fucking basic information you can find with a search?

and for the record, i didnt insult you at first, i said the idea was stupid (because it is), and you got all shitty.

damn i just wrote alot.

ok im 17, insurance is compulsury in aus and if you wanna talk bout balls when i had my pulsar i got done twice with no liscence no insurance no rego and the first time i had stolen number plates that 4 petrol runs had been used with them then i got done the second time for resisting arrest.. lets not talk bout balls caus u dont no me.. and seriosuly do u know what your talking about?? 120kw from a s15 jdm sr20de?? EASSYYY, good exhaust, air filter, cam gears, headers and a pulley kit should make it quite easily, if it doesnt then it would come close, and that autech engine was offered to me for 2500, i think you are WAY underestimating the non turbo sr20...

i know you're not really 12, i was just being an asshole. and wtf, you left stolen plates on your car after you did the runners? not that i care but that sounds more like stupidity than balls..

seriously though, not to be an asshole but i just dont believe that none turb sr20's make that much power. i see bunches of people doing work and dynoing them and getting nothing. if you can point me a thread or uploaded dyno sheet that proves your point, fair enough.

and i have no idea how NZD and AUD compare but you can pick up an sr20det here for 2000.

and the insurance, how much will it cost when they see you have an engine swapped 180sx with all these aftermarket parts?

yaaaaay the DRAMA and fun is back in AF!!!!


anyhow

swapping a CA or SR in a S13 is a bolt on.
the SR N/A is even easier to drop in.
the CA (i never did that swap ) should also be straight forward.

just make sure u get new engine mounts and change all the turbo gaskets and make sure u upgrade the fuel pump.

Hay dude why don you snatch a KA24de from a frunteer truck and drop it in.
You can all motor it.
We in the US git it with the stock 240SX/ silvia.
All parts can be stock or used. easy, cheep swap.
more displacement for NA power.
We don't like it because many say that it cant handle boost well.
but if you ain't gonna boost it than get some stage 2 cams
P&P the head, bump the compression up to 12-1 and off you go.

silvia gtr - getting a ka in aus: no chance lol. ive never seen one in aus let alone heard of one lol.

awdsr20 - so fuel lines and fuel pump will need upgrading if i was to put the sr20de in tha ca18det? but wouldnt the fuel pump already be big enough because the ca18det is turboed so shouldnt it be big eneough to compensate for an extra 200cc??

awdsr20 - so fuel lines and fuel pump will need upgrading if i was to put the sr20de in tha ca18det? but wouldnt the fuel pump already be big enough because the ca18det is turboed so shouldnt it be big eneough to compensate for an extra 200cc??

i would not think so bro, for the N/A SR u should be ok.
just get the new engine mounts and make sure the oil pan is not dent. if it is dent , take it out and get ride of the dent.
BTW, i would get a rocker arm stopper just in case and if u can get the S14 SR bcus u will get a better top end due to the VVT thing ok!

sweet as thnx man

hey, one more thing, if i was to buy an auto s13 (240sx coupe) how hard would it be to convert it to manual?? maybe put an r33 gearbox in it? or an s14 or s15 gearbox, how expensive? how much work involved?

silvia gtr - getting a ka in aus: no chance lol. ive never seen one in aus let alone heard of one lol.

awdsr20 - so fuel lines and fuel pump will need upgrading if i was to put the sr20de in tha ca18det? but wouldnt the fuel pump already be big enough because the ca18det is turboed so shouldnt it be big eneough to compensate for an extra 200cc??

Look into the nissan Frunteer truck it is all in there.
But it's cool just thinking of cheep swaps.
Cause we were stuck with that motor here in the US.

$2,500 for an N/A SR20!!!! That seems like a lot of money. I don't know much about this engine you're on about, but have you considered an SR20VE?

148kw @ rear wheels, this engine would have to have BIG cams, high compression, bigger injectors etc etc.

As i said i don't know much about this engine so if it has a standard ECU with this engine your in luck. But as the mods I've i listed above you would not be able to run the engine with a standard S13/14/15 ECU, you would most likely need a re-map or go after-market.

I think you should just upgrade your fuel pump. I'm not sure how much power these would flow up to but i don't think it would be a lot, it would probably be maxing out at 148kw atw. Also it's old now so just upgrade it.

As for the Auto-Manual conversion i also don't know exactly what you'd need, the only things i can list would be Gearbox(not sure from what model SR20), Heavy Duty clutch, clutch pedal assembly(not sure whats needed as im not sure if the silvia's are hydraulic clutch)

Also if this conversion does get completed be sure to take it easy! In you're last thread i said you'd be a tool on the roads with a high powered vehicle and you already are a tool and the cars not even high powered(your N13).

If i think of anything more I'll be sure to post. Good luck wit the conversion

^^

it was 2500 for a worked n/a sr20..

$2,500 for an N/A SR20!!!!

^^

it was 2500 for a worked n/a sr20..


That's what i said. How much are you buying the 180 for?

i dunno man currently im getting 550 a week aud, ive got 1000 in my savings, sooo dont no wat im doing atm..

If you really want a 180SX or S13 Silvia i think you should just wait till you find a clean example that's already got an SR20DE and is manual. I think $2,500 for a N/A engine is too much, understandable if it was a worked SR16/20VE but a DE that's too much, that's the price of DET engine.

Your plan to do this swap is a total waste of money IMHO.

CAR - $6,000 - 10,000
ENGINE - $2,500
WIRING LOOM - $???
ECU(Re-MAP or After market) - $700 - $2,000
EXHAUST - $500 - $1,500(Including cheap brand extractors)
GEARBOX - $???
PARTS FOR MANUAL CONVERSION - $???
ENGINE MOUNTS - $???(I don't think they'd be expensive though)
RADIATOR(Auto model has the gearbox fluid running through it too) - $200 - $700

I just did an estimate with the prices i have listed and guessed the ones that don't have a price and it came to a total of $13,900, $14,100 - 200 to get the after market ECU tuned.

Remember these prices do not include labor.

You've still got a fair bit to save before you can buy the car so by the time you've saved about $10,000 you should be able to find a 180/Silvia for $6,000 - $9,000. Just search websites, news papers, car performance magazines etc.

What state you live in mate?

nsw, aus, i might just buy an s13, then few years down the track throw a sr20det vvt in it...

HAHAHAHA. I just saw your thread on PGA (I'm a member too), make up your mind!

IMHO don't do it. You'll probably run into lots of problems, not to mention gearboxes, once you start making big power they are going to break like tooth picks.

i used to until someone threw bricks at it and it got written off

I thought someone smashed into it while it was parked?

Just buy a 180SX with an SR20DE in it and start with that, they're not hard to find in NSW. Besides RWD > FWD

OMFG...
1. ill do what i want.
2. everyone knows that imports in nz are cheaper then everywhere else.
3. i must have told everyone here about 5083747856487364784 times that i live in aus and am only on my pervisional liscense so i am not alowed to drive a turboed car.
4. ive told everyone NO im not going to wait the 2 years im going to be an impatient spoil little shit and do the swap.
5. i was asking for help and tips and bs not ur fu*%ing opinions.
6. im not looking for alot of power i want around 120kw from the sr20de then when i get off my pervisional liscence i do plan to turbo the engine and get alot more power out of it.

thanks....
your very rude for a man needing help
that said
ca18det> ser20de anyday anyday

Not allowed to drive a turbo car? Put a VQ35 in!

VQ's are so heavy compared to a sr...