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diesel1962
07-19-2007, 10:37 PM
Hello All !! I bought a 1977 Goldwing.I would like some advice on adjusting the clutch. I wished I had a shop manual for it.Also anybody know of any web sites that show tear down diagrams?? Any input would be helpful.Thanks,Diesel 1962....P.S..I only paied $150.00 for the bike and it has a rebult engine.

aussieidiot
07-20-2007, 05:30 AM
www.yamahaoftroy.com

this is a great site as it has all the microfiche for most bikes.

may not help so much now but later it may

jeffcoslacker
07-20-2007, 08:30 AM
Run! Run while you still have your sanity!:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=182320

I hope you have good luck with it. Me? Never again...

FNA
07-20-2007, 11:19 AM
What kind of advice on adjusting the clutch? This bike being 30 years old you may need to replace the clutch if you can't get it to adjust.

Rebuilt engine, eh? When, why and rebuilt exactly how? I ask because if I spend a couple of grand on a rebuild, it's gonna take a while before I'll sell the bike for a couple hundred.

jeffcoslacker
07-20-2007, 12:21 PM
Mine seemed in need of adjustment...then the cable snapped..

There is an ajuster at the clutch lever where the cable comes through, theres a large thumb wheel that locks it, and a small one that actually legthens the cable. Run the big one back out of the way, then adjust the small one out until you have a slight freeplay in the lever and the clutch begins to grab fairly soon after releasing the lever from the grip. When you have it where it feels right, lock it down with the large wheel. There may be a rubber boot over all this you jhave to peel out of the way to see it.

If it clunks loud or lurches when you put it in gear, it's too far in and not getting a full disengagement. If it slips when you start out from a stop or when you hit the throttle hard in higher gear, it's too far out and allowing slip.

If you have no more travel outward, the clutch itself is worn out, or the cable is stretched and about to snap (see above)

FNA
07-20-2007, 12:34 PM
All the adjuster at the lever does is adjust the cable free-play, not the clutch.

aussieidiot
07-20-2007, 03:44 PM
my understanding of clutches is the same as jeffco's

adjust the cable to take out any slack in the cable and bring the friction point to a happy medium.
if the clutch is worn or the cable stretched and is about to snap, then this is a short term fix and the clutch (or cable) should be replaced.

if you'd like to post how to adjust the clutch instead of just saying "All the adjuster at the lever does is adjust the cable free-play, not the clutch." then feel free to help

Jeffco has proven that he know's his shit when it comes to mechanical and posted previously about owning a '77 goldwing.

FNA
07-20-2007, 03:55 PM
"if you'd like to post how to adjust the clutch instead of just saying "All the adjuster at the lever does is adjust the cable free-play, not the clutch." then feel free to help"

Nobody has asked how to adjust a clutch. The original poster asked for "some advice on adjusting a clutch", not a how to. I asked him what advice he wanted. Maybe he just wants to know should it be done hot or cold. He hasn't responded to my question yet.

Jeffco erroneously thought that cable adjustment is clutch adjustment. I told jeffco and the other readers what the procedure he described actually does, which is different than what he (and you apparently) thought. That's not helpful?

If both of you go away from here knowing that all the cable adjuster does is adjust the cable and not the clutch, then I think I have helped at least the two of you specifically.

If you don't think so, then apparently I can't help you, whether I feel free about it or not.

aussieidiot
07-20-2007, 04:40 PM
since you seem to need to have a specific question to have a specific answer....

how do you (by you i mean FNA) adjust a clutch in a 1977 Goldwing?

please state in detail all since i would love to be enlightened.

ps what does FNA stand for because going by your posts so far i'm thinking of a very apt version.

down in australia FNA is slang for fucken know-it all. no joke. i'm just enlightening you.

so you'll have to excuse me why i chuckle at the whole situation

jeffcoslacker
07-20-2007, 04:55 PM
There is no other adjustment, unless you're working on a Harley.

Cable length directly makes up for friction disc wear in this design. There is no other adjustment.

jeffcoslacker
07-20-2007, 05:05 PM
You know...there might have been a lower adjustment point that you have to set when you replace the cable, then use the one at the lever for fine adjustment.

If it appears to have this, you can raise the threaded part higher here, and see if you can get anything more out of it at the top...It's still just a cable adjustment, though.

Mine was an '81 GL1100, but I think they were all pretty similar.

aussieidiot
07-20-2007, 05:09 PM
my suzuki GSXR750t had three points of adjustment. the bars, the clutch casing both of which were external and a third internally. not 100% certain about the internal part.

my clutch went one night. i tried to adjust it at the bars but no luck. went to mechanic to get it sorted out because the cable was ok. he tried the outer two adjusters before opening the case and working some magic inside.

jeffcoslacker
07-20-2007, 05:11 PM
http://images.powersportsnetwork.com/fiche/images/Honda/1977/Motorcycles/2451_CLUTCH%20@%20FINAL%20GEARSHAFT.gif

Could have had a pivot point adjustment inside, this is the GL1000, I don't see anything that looks adjustable in here...I'll check the diagram for the case...

aussieidiot
07-20-2007, 05:19 PM
i just checked the microfiche for my gixer and saw a pivot assembly with a clutch release spring. that may have been what failed on mine.

jeffcoslacker
07-20-2007, 05:20 PM
http://images.powersportsnetwork.com/fiche/images/Honda/1977/Motorcycles/2451_KICK%20STARTER%20@%20CLUTCH%20COVER%20%20@%20 REAR%20CASE.gif

jeffcoslacker
07-20-2007, 05:23 PM
#12 is an adjustable rod that operates the clutch lifter cam...I was incorrect.

Learn something everyday, if you're lucky.:grinyes:

FNA
07-25-2007, 03:25 PM
I guess that's why the call you an idiot - the abbreviation for F ucking Know It All is FNA. yeah, that makes sense - well, except for the K... and the I... and there's no N.

Actually it's short for "you can bet your F'n ass I'm right."

Since you guys all know better, I'll leave you to it.

First though, do you know what part number 12 in the illustration imediately above is?

I'll give you a hint: any answer other than clutch adjustment bolt is wrong.

aussieidiot
07-26-2007, 02:23 AM
I guess that's why the call you an idiot - the abbreviation for F ucking Know It All is FNA. yeah, that makes sense - well, except for the K... and the I... and there's no N.


Since you guys all know better, I'll leave you to it.

First though, do you know what part number 12 in the illustration imediately above is?

I'll give you a hint: any answer other than clutch adjustment bolt is wrong.


Hmm.
1)you do realise your trying to decipher slang in another country. we use words you don't and abbreviate the way we want to.
2)"Actually it's short for "you can bet your F'n ass I'm right." " wouldn't that be YCBYFAIR in your line of thinking...... (no, your right, yours is so much closer than "fuckin know it all")
3)if your going to try to have a go on a literary level, at least use use spell check. (here's a hint, y) makes it easier to understand when you spell correctly.
4)self confessed idiot. easier to appear stupid than to post and relieve all doubt

i haven't had this much fun since my year 12 religion teacher and i debated the origins of the bible.
are you going to cry too?

diesel1962
08-02-2007, 10:13 AM
Thanks for the advice guys.I am going to replace the clutch as I found out it is shot.Diesel 1962

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