1996 continental coolant problem
quadjedro
06-24-2007, 03:04 PM
Hi,i just installed a new alternator in my car and i wish i had looked at this site first because i remove the hard piped coolant line above the alternator instead of moving the coolant resevoir and power steering fluid res out of the way.Anyhow my issue now is that one i am having a problem getting the air air out of the system,the fans come on as soon as i start the engine (cold) and i am getting no temp reading from the engine.I have replaced the temp sensor,the themostat(leaking what else is new).I just cant figure as to why i am getting no temp reading and the fans come on immediatly.Please and help would be great,volt output from temp sensor or....Thanks in advance...Is there a stuck relay for the cooling fans possibly....
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Towncar
06-25-2007, 04:02 PM
I'm guessing you haven't read the official procederes for doing this job. There's several places to go wrong with regards to replacing the Thermostat, and refilling the Coolant system.
Be sure you have the Thermostat facing the proper direction as well. Some folks find burping the system easier with the vehicle sitting at a slant (burp hole at the highest point), mine was that way and I didn't have any trouble.
I'm going to post directly from the service manual (I suggest you download one for free) so some references to specific brands may not be to your particular taste, but the processes are mandatory.
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Thermostat, Water
Removal
1. WARNING: NEVER REMOVE THE PRESSURE RELIEF CAP UNDER ANY CONDITIONS WHILE THE ENGINE IS OPERATING. FAILURE TO FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS COULD RESULT IN DAMAGE TO THE COOLING SYSTEM OR ENGINE AND/OR PERSONAL INJURY. TO AVOID HAVING SCALDING HOT COOLANT OR STEAM BLOW OUT OF THE COOLING SYSTEM OR RESERVOIR, USE EXTREME CARE WHEN REMOVING THE PRESSURE RELIEF CAP FROM A HOT COOLING SYSTEM OR RESERVOIR. WAIT UNTIL THE ENGINE HAS COOLED, THEN WRAP A THICK CLOTH AROUND THE PRESSURE RELIEF CAP AND TURN IT SLOWLY UNTIL PRESSURE BEGINS TO RELEASE. STEP BACK WHILE THE PRESSURE IS RELEASED FROM THE COOLING SYSTEM. WHEN CERTAIN ALL PRESSURE HAS BEEN RELEASED, PRESS DOWN ON THE PRESSURE CAP (STILL WITH A CLOTH), TURN AND REMOVE PRESSURE RELIEF CAP.
Drain the engine cooling system so that the engine coolant level is below the water thermostat (8575) as outlined.
2. Raise vehicle on hoist.
3. Disconnect the lower radiator hose (8286) and radiator coolant recovery reservoir hose from the water inlet connection.
4. Remove the two water inlet connection retaining bolts. Remove the water inlet connection.
5. Remove the O-ring seal and water thermostat from the water thermostat housing. Inspect O-ring for damage and replace if necessary.
6. If required, remove water bypass hose from water thermostat housing and remove water thermostat housing retaining bolts, water thermostat housing and O-ring from oil filter adapter (6881). Inspect O-ring for damage and replace if necessary.
Installation
1. Install the water thermostat, O-rings, water thermostat housing (if removed) and water inlet connection as illustrated.
2. Install and alternately tighten the retaining bolts. Tighten bolts to 6-9N-m (8-12 lb-ft).
3. If removed, connect the water bypass hose to the water thermostat housing.
4. Connect the lower radiator hose and radiator coolant recovery reservoir hose to the water inlet connection.
5. Lower vehicle.
6. Fill the cooling system with Ford Premium Cooling System Fluid E2FZ-19549-AA or -B (in Canada, Motorcraft CXC-8-B) or equivalent that meets Ford specification ESE-M97B44-A in a 50/50 mixture with water as outlined under Cooling System, Draining, Filling and Bleeding procedure, below this one.
7. Start the engine and check all hoses and connections for leaks. Allow the engine to warm up so that the water thermostat opens.
8. Stop the engine. Top off radiator coolant recovery reservoir (8A080) as required to maintain minimum cold fill level.
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Cooling System, Draining, Filling and Bleeding
1. Note: Some coolant/water will be retained in the cylinder block (6010) if cylinder block drain plugs are not removed. When refilling cooling system after flushing, adjust coolant mix ratio to obtain a 50/50 mix. Be certain to account for approximately 4.8 liters (5.1 quarts) of water left in the cylinder block when drain plugs are not removed.
Bring engine to normal operating temperature and turn engine OFF.
2. WARNING: NEVER REMOVE PRESSURE RELIEF CAP UNDER ANY CONDITIONS WHILE ENGINE IS OPERATING. FAILURE TO FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS COULD RESULT IN PERSONAL INJURY AND/OR DAMAGE TO THE COOLING SYSTEM OR ENGINE.
WARNING: TO AVOID BURNS FROM SCALDING COOLANT OR STEAM, USE EXTREME CARE WHEN REMOVING THE PRESSURE RELIEF CAP.
Drain cooling system as follows:
a. If cooling system is still hot, carefully wrap a thick cloth around the pressure relief cap and rotate slowly until pressure begins to release. Step back until the pressure is released.
b. Then rotate pressure relief cap until free. Remove the pressure relief cap.
c. Open radiator draincock (8115) and disconnect engine coolant return hose at coolant inlet connection on oil filter adapter (6881) to drain the coolant system.
3. Note: A 50/50 mixture of Premium Cooling System Fluid E2FZ-19549-AA or B (in Canada, Motorcraft CXC-8-B) or equivalent meeting Ford specification ESE-M97B44-A and water is required to prevent damage to the cooling system.
Fill cooling system as follows:
a. Check all hose clamps for proper tightness. Make sure radiator draincock is closed.
b. Place heater temperature selector in maximum heat position.
c. Remove cooling system fill plug from engine water bypass tube.
d. CAUTION: Do not fill cooling system through reservoir only. Coolant will not enter engine. Only radiator coolant recovery reservoir (8A080) and radiator (8005) will be filled and engine overheating will occur.
CAUTION: Use extreme care to keep coolant mixture off of the drive belt and pulleys. If needed, remove drive belt (8620) and rinse with clear water. Clean pulleys and install drive belt. Belt squeal and early belt fatigue will occur otherwise.
Add coolant into fill neck on water bypass tube until coolant reaches "FULL" mark on radiator coolant recovery reservoir.
e. Reinstall pressure relief cap to radiator coolant recovery reservoir.
f. Slowly continue to fill cooling system at water bypass tube fill neck, allowing air to escape, until full.
g. Start engine and run at idle. Add a 50/50 mixture of Ford Premium Cooling System Fluid E2FZ-19549-AA (in Canada, CXC-8-B) or equivalent meeting Ford specification ESE-M97B44-A and water at water bypass tube fill neck until full.
h. Reinstall water bypass tube fill plug. Tighten fill plug to 15-18 N-m (11-13 lb-ft).
4. Bleed cooling system as follows:
a. Select maximum heater temperature and fan speed settings. Position control to discharge air at A/C registers in instrument panel.
b. WARNING: TO AVOID THE POSSIBILITY OF PERSONAL INJURY OR DAMAGE TO THE VEHICLE, DO NOT OPERATE ENGINE WITH HOOD OPEN UNTIL FAN BLADE HAS BEEN FIRST EXAMINED FOR POSSIBLE CRACKS AND SEPARATION.
Start engine and allow to idle. While engine is idling, feel for hot air at A/C registers.
c. CAUTION: If air discharge remains cool and engine temperature gauge does not move, engine coolant level is low in engine and must be filled. Stop engine, allow to cool and fill cooling system as outlined.
Start engine and allow to idle until normal operating temperature is reached. Hot air should discharge from A/C registers. The engine temperature gauge should maintain a stabilized reading in the middle of the "NORMAL" range and the lower radiator hose (8286) should feel hot to the touch.
d. Shut engine off and allow to cool.
e. Visually check engine for coolant leaks.
f. Note: When low coolant warning message flashes, approximately 0.946-1.416 liters (1-1.5 qts.) of a 50/50 mixture of Ford Premium Cooling System Fluid E2FZ-19549-AA (in Canada, CXC-8-B) or equivalent meeting Ford specification ESE-M97B44-A and water can be added to the radiator coolant recovery reservoir.
Check coolant level in radiator coolant recovery reservoir and fill as necessary.
Be sure you have the Thermostat facing the proper direction as well. Some folks find burping the system easier with the vehicle sitting at a slant (burp hole at the highest point), mine was that way and I didn't have any trouble.
I'm going to post directly from the service manual (I suggest you download one for free) so some references to specific brands may not be to your particular taste, but the processes are mandatory.
================================================== =========
Thermostat, Water
Removal
1. WARNING: NEVER REMOVE THE PRESSURE RELIEF CAP UNDER ANY CONDITIONS WHILE THE ENGINE IS OPERATING. FAILURE TO FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS COULD RESULT IN DAMAGE TO THE COOLING SYSTEM OR ENGINE AND/OR PERSONAL INJURY. TO AVOID HAVING SCALDING HOT COOLANT OR STEAM BLOW OUT OF THE COOLING SYSTEM OR RESERVOIR, USE EXTREME CARE WHEN REMOVING THE PRESSURE RELIEF CAP FROM A HOT COOLING SYSTEM OR RESERVOIR. WAIT UNTIL THE ENGINE HAS COOLED, THEN WRAP A THICK CLOTH AROUND THE PRESSURE RELIEF CAP AND TURN IT SLOWLY UNTIL PRESSURE BEGINS TO RELEASE. STEP BACK WHILE THE PRESSURE IS RELEASED FROM THE COOLING SYSTEM. WHEN CERTAIN ALL PRESSURE HAS BEEN RELEASED, PRESS DOWN ON THE PRESSURE CAP (STILL WITH A CLOTH), TURN AND REMOVE PRESSURE RELIEF CAP.
Drain the engine cooling system so that the engine coolant level is below the water thermostat (8575) as outlined.
2. Raise vehicle on hoist.
3. Disconnect the lower radiator hose (8286) and radiator coolant recovery reservoir hose from the water inlet connection.
4. Remove the two water inlet connection retaining bolts. Remove the water inlet connection.
5. Remove the O-ring seal and water thermostat from the water thermostat housing. Inspect O-ring for damage and replace if necessary.
6. If required, remove water bypass hose from water thermostat housing and remove water thermostat housing retaining bolts, water thermostat housing and O-ring from oil filter adapter (6881). Inspect O-ring for damage and replace if necessary.
Installation
1. Install the water thermostat, O-rings, water thermostat housing (if removed) and water inlet connection as illustrated.
2. Install and alternately tighten the retaining bolts. Tighten bolts to 6-9N-m (8-12 lb-ft).
3. If removed, connect the water bypass hose to the water thermostat housing.
4. Connect the lower radiator hose and radiator coolant recovery reservoir hose to the water inlet connection.
5. Lower vehicle.
6. Fill the cooling system with Ford Premium Cooling System Fluid E2FZ-19549-AA or -B (in Canada, Motorcraft CXC-8-B) or equivalent that meets Ford specification ESE-M97B44-A in a 50/50 mixture with water as outlined under Cooling System, Draining, Filling and Bleeding procedure, below this one.
7. Start the engine and check all hoses and connections for leaks. Allow the engine to warm up so that the water thermostat opens.
8. Stop the engine. Top off radiator coolant recovery reservoir (8A080) as required to maintain minimum cold fill level.
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6908/1996contitstat01yp0.jpg http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6938/1996contitstat02qr6.jpg
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3142/1996contitstat03hg0.jpg
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Cooling System, Draining, Filling and Bleeding
1. Note: Some coolant/water will be retained in the cylinder block (6010) if cylinder block drain plugs are not removed. When refilling cooling system after flushing, adjust coolant mix ratio to obtain a 50/50 mix. Be certain to account for approximately 4.8 liters (5.1 quarts) of water left in the cylinder block when drain plugs are not removed.
Bring engine to normal operating temperature and turn engine OFF.
2. WARNING: NEVER REMOVE PRESSURE RELIEF CAP UNDER ANY CONDITIONS WHILE ENGINE IS OPERATING. FAILURE TO FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS COULD RESULT IN PERSONAL INJURY AND/OR DAMAGE TO THE COOLING SYSTEM OR ENGINE.
WARNING: TO AVOID BURNS FROM SCALDING COOLANT OR STEAM, USE EXTREME CARE WHEN REMOVING THE PRESSURE RELIEF CAP.
Drain cooling system as follows:
a. If cooling system is still hot, carefully wrap a thick cloth around the pressure relief cap and rotate slowly until pressure begins to release. Step back until the pressure is released.
b. Then rotate pressure relief cap until free. Remove the pressure relief cap.
c. Open radiator draincock (8115) and disconnect engine coolant return hose at coolant inlet connection on oil filter adapter (6881) to drain the coolant system.
3. Note: A 50/50 mixture of Premium Cooling System Fluid E2FZ-19549-AA or B (in Canada, Motorcraft CXC-8-B) or equivalent meeting Ford specification ESE-M97B44-A and water is required to prevent damage to the cooling system.
Fill cooling system as follows:
a. Check all hose clamps for proper tightness. Make sure radiator draincock is closed.
b. Place heater temperature selector in maximum heat position.
c. Remove cooling system fill plug from engine water bypass tube.
d. CAUTION: Do not fill cooling system through reservoir only. Coolant will not enter engine. Only radiator coolant recovery reservoir (8A080) and radiator (8005) will be filled and engine overheating will occur.
CAUTION: Use extreme care to keep coolant mixture off of the drive belt and pulleys. If needed, remove drive belt (8620) and rinse with clear water. Clean pulleys and install drive belt. Belt squeal and early belt fatigue will occur otherwise.
Add coolant into fill neck on water bypass tube until coolant reaches "FULL" mark on radiator coolant recovery reservoir.
e. Reinstall pressure relief cap to radiator coolant recovery reservoir.
f. Slowly continue to fill cooling system at water bypass tube fill neck, allowing air to escape, until full.
g. Start engine and run at idle. Add a 50/50 mixture of Ford Premium Cooling System Fluid E2FZ-19549-AA (in Canada, CXC-8-B) or equivalent meeting Ford specification ESE-M97B44-A and water at water bypass tube fill neck until full.
h. Reinstall water bypass tube fill plug. Tighten fill plug to 15-18 N-m (11-13 lb-ft).
4. Bleed cooling system as follows:
a. Select maximum heater temperature and fan speed settings. Position control to discharge air at A/C registers in instrument panel.
b. WARNING: TO AVOID THE POSSIBILITY OF PERSONAL INJURY OR DAMAGE TO THE VEHICLE, DO NOT OPERATE ENGINE WITH HOOD OPEN UNTIL FAN BLADE HAS BEEN FIRST EXAMINED FOR POSSIBLE CRACKS AND SEPARATION.
Start engine and allow to idle. While engine is idling, feel for hot air at A/C registers.
c. CAUTION: If air discharge remains cool and engine temperature gauge does not move, engine coolant level is low in engine and must be filled. Stop engine, allow to cool and fill cooling system as outlined.
Start engine and allow to idle until normal operating temperature is reached. Hot air should discharge from A/C registers. The engine temperature gauge should maintain a stabilized reading in the middle of the "NORMAL" range and the lower radiator hose (8286) should feel hot to the touch.
d. Shut engine off and allow to cool.
e. Visually check engine for coolant leaks.
f. Note: When low coolant warning message flashes, approximately 0.946-1.416 liters (1-1.5 qts.) of a 50/50 mixture of Ford Premium Cooling System Fluid E2FZ-19549-AA (in Canada, CXC-8-B) or equivalent meeting Ford specification ESE-M97B44-A and water can be added to the radiator coolant recovery reservoir.
Check coolant level in radiator coolant recovery reservoir and fill as necessary.
quadjedro
06-25-2007, 07:56 PM
thank you very much for this..This is great info my friend,i will let you know how it turns out.:)
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