BA Falcon Xt

With regards the comment of the BA being "frickin Awful", I cant really comment but to say that 182 kws off the rack , as opposed to 152 for the upcoming yy commodore (is yy short for Why,why bother?) seems to be a major jump forwards as does tiptronic gearbox available out of the box across the range . I think I remember control blade suspension being mentioned and this comes from the Focus and mondeo wagons , this is available in all models I think with the exception of the ute, I am prepared to give the car more than a chance and expect Holden dealers to have somewhat lean times with fleet buyers until the GM modular quad cam V6 becomes available. Obviously dropping their pants on price is the easy option as well as some package enhancements i.e. alloy wheels,climate air maybe. We shall see how they react. I hope Ford do the selling as well as they do the building of such cars as Mondeo etc. The interior of the falcon certainly looks tighter and I dont think you can lose your wallet down the dashboard seams anymore. That was one of the biggest leaps forward when the Mondeo 02 model was launched and seems to be designed into the Australian car.

true ..Except its the VY not YY Commodore :)

Quite right, my apologies, I wondered about that when I typed it.

The extra jump in power for the falcon comepensates for the extra 150kg it gains over the AU.

WOW!!!! This new Falcon is pretty amazing- it's putting out as much Kw as VS HSV Clubsports- IN AN I6!!!!!!!:eek: :eek:

I have heard something, regarding to the sales of the new BS vs VY!

apparently last month Falcon was out sold 2 to 1 in favor of the VY!

and holden dealers cant get enough VY's to sell!

so the race is on FORD!

C U at the finishing line!
:)

oop's thats BA not BS

I am willing to bet my house that the BA outdoes the VY in the New Zealand market- not this year (Too little time)- But in 2003


There is big hoo-haa surrounding the BA- but not much focus on the VY- Quite frakly the VY is forgettable :rolleyes:

Ford isn't capable of producing more cars than Holden at the moment. Their production line isn't big enough. So I don't think Ford will overtake Holden in sales before the all new VZ comes out in 2004.

Hasn't the transformation and salvage of Falcon's public image through BA been astounding? Ford have aced the competition with 240 base-model horsepower (who said that performance doesn't sell?) and their low performance era of XF-on boredom-mobiles is finally over. At least Ford's back in the hunt now and has a sales momentum to build on.

No idea if it's true but someone mentioned that XR6's currently make up almost 50% of BA's production

And I'm not surprised the BA is outselling the VY - you can't even get in a BA! VY launched here and available and yet I haven't been invited to jump into a BA yet despite the dealer usually bending over backwards to get me into the drive programs for the new Falcon usually...

And judging from the number of folk I know who are in a position to actually fork out or have their company fork out for a new car - the BA XR6T is yielding a lot of interest but we're all waiting to actually hope in one of the things...

The XT looks on paper to be a good value and I have to say - first impressions are the the BA is a lot more pleasant on the eye than the unloved AU.

I remember being impressed by the EA many years ago the moment I saw the car compared to the XF and VL @ the time. I was also very impressed with the VT even more when the AU was around. The first time I saw the AU the form didn't do anything for me... and the Monaro is a nice piece of kit too although I don't like the HSV GTO - the body kit is friggin' awful...

Originally posted by replicant_008
And I'm not surprised the BA is outselling the VY - you can't even get in a BA! VY launched here and available and yet I haven't been invited to jump into a BA yet despite the dealer usually bending over backwards to get me into the drive programs for the new Falcon usually...

And judging from the number of folk I know who are in a position to actually fork out or have their company fork out for a new car - the BA XR6T is yielding a lot of interest but we're all waiting to actually hope in one of the things...

The XT looks on paper to be a good value and I have to say - first impressions are the the BA is a lot more pleasant on the eye than the unloved AU.

I remember being impressed by the EA many years ago the moment I saw the car compared to the XF and VL @ the time. I was also very impressed with the VT even more when the AU was around. The first time I saw the AU the form didn't do anything for me... and the Monaro is a nice piece of kit too although I don't like the HSV GTO - the body kit is friggin' awful...




Your not alone on the HSV GTO replicant :apuke:



but I think I have said it before- the BA does lose out to the VY in the visual impact department- but the AU is just a better all-rounder.



I'd give my left nut for an XR6 Turbo and both of them for the new Falcon GT thats coming up :licker:



I'm guessing the new 5.4 V8 is the same Ford Triton one used in the F150 :confused:

whats wrong with the HSV GTO?


i also think they could have done more for the FORD GT i think it needs some more spice. it just looks like a XR6T which is nice dont get me wrong its just for a top line car, It needs something else. A bit more radical i wouldnt say HSV radical but something to make it look even better.

But hell i want a maloo.

Originally posted by cruisey
whats wrong with the HSV GTO?


i also think they could have done more for the FORD GT i think it needs some more spice. it just looks like a XR6T which is nice dont get me wrong its just for a top line car, It needs something else. A bit more radical i wouldnt say HSV radical but something to make it look even better.

But hell i want a maloo.

Nope- HSV suck at bodykits- want a good body kit????


4 Words- Nissan R34 Skyline GTR:)

Originally posted by replicant_008
And I'm not surprised the BA is outselling the VY - you can't even get in a BA! VY launched here and available and yet I haven't been invited to jump into a BA yet despite the dealer usually bending over backwards to get me into the drive programs for the new Falcon usually...


The BA is not outselling the VY. Bad info there.

I think the Falcon and Commodore are going to do a little trading places.


Firstly, the VY is pig-ugly, it is worse than the AU IMO, in fact it looks so like everything else, that I believe it has earned the name VY Magna 323 over the ditch :D

The BA Falcon, on the other hand, offers superior mechanicals, better, more distinctive looks and a much more rounded backage......


So hence I see a switch at the top :)

Its not going to happen in the next 12 to 18 months. It will take Ford that long just to get their producing capacity anywhere near Holden's.

imo, Holden has that amount of time to get the VZ ready before Ford threaten to take the lead in sales.

Too Right there!

there is no way the ford will be able to produce anywhere near the amount of BA's.

VY isnt ugly its not the holden we knew, but if sales are anything to go by holden are still out selling the VY 2 to 1 BA.

only time will tell which one is selling better

Well put it this way.... my father knows the ceo of zupps.inc and of holden motorama, and knows a executive from holdens hsv... cos he's owns Australias only hsv limosine company ... and from what he's been told about sales projections and proof.... is the BA is outselling the VY very seriously.... there is actually a order line for the xr6-T.

My brothers actually in the queue for a xr6 - T, just cos holden can produce more cars doesnt mean they'll make more to sell if there projected figures arent high, How do i know...... lols im a salesman at Motorama Holden...

I still think whatever anyone says..... only cars good are the HSV Grange 250ls1, BA XR6-T, and any nissan skyline :)

Cheers :finger:

No Offence farking_funny, go ask ur local holden dealer to give u the projected ammount of cars to be sold in the VY range, then go ask the ford dealer for the BA's..... I think ur info is very wrong, or unless u happen to just love holdens.

Show me sum proof cos I work at a Holden dealership and what numbers are being sold isnt even close to what u think vy's should be selling at. No offence but please just post factual comments,

I hate fans of production cars saying they sell more, lol i hate both holden and ford, even tho i work for holden.... i'd never own one!
I like nissan skylines.... i got a R33 and never look back