GTO in the states??
MitsubishiGTO95
06-22-2007, 09:42 PM
My question is simple, is there any way to get a true gto into the U.S and have it be road legal.... i go to Napierville dragstrip in canada all the time and ive seen them over there....I mean we have skylines in the US but i dont recall seeing any gto's anyways if it cant be imported how hard is a right hand drive conversion???
dhrubio
06-22-2007, 10:43 PM
there has been a lot of talk about this, just do a search and you'll get a lot of info, but its very hard, nearly impossible some argue, and the parts need for RHD are also very hard to find
Stealthee
06-23-2007, 07:11 AM
The GTO is not on the NHSTA list of cars that can be legally imported. There are 1 or 2 known GTO's in the states that have popped up on Ebay. Both auctions stated clearly that the car could not be made road legal.
vectorspecialist
06-23-2007, 05:38 PM
The GTO is not on the NHSTA list of cars that can be legally imported. There are 1 or 2 known GTO's in the states that have popped up on Ebay. Both auctions stated clearly that the car could not be made road legal.
that list wont even come up on my net, i tried it the other day to c what was up with the gtr33, and it just stayed blank.
i know of 2 rhd 3kgt, one by me and there is a guy who had one on this forum.
skylines were leagally imported by motorex from 99-05 so yea there are about 600 of them here leagally. if u get a skyline, dont expect your local nissan dealer to help that easily with parts.
as for the gto, i guess parts would b much easier to get.
gto's arent on the list because the 3kgt and stealth are too much the same car, and the govern,ment just basically says go out and buy one of those, they're cheaper
that list wont even come up on my net, i tried it the other day to c what was up with the gtr33, and it just stayed blank.
i know of 2 rhd 3kgt, one by me and there is a guy who had one on this forum.
skylines were leagally imported by motorex from 99-05 so yea there are about 600 of them here leagally. if u get a skyline, dont expect your local nissan dealer to help that easily with parts.
as for the gto, i guess parts would b much easier to get.
gto's arent on the list because the 3kgt and stealth are too much the same car, and the govern,ment just basically says go out and buy one of those, they're cheaper
Stealthee
06-23-2007, 05:47 PM
That is not why they arent on the list. They arent on the list because of emmission standards etc.
vectorspecialist
06-23-2007, 06:31 PM
o so that must b y the r34 and r32 arent on the list and yet the r33 is. because the r32 meets regulations and not the onther two.
no it's for many many reasons, of which one is that the gto/3000/and stealth are all the same car, the government will not let u import the gto except for track purposes or historic puposes(of which the gto is of no historic reason)
no it's for many many reasons, of which one is that the gto/3000/and stealth are all the same car, the government will not let u import the gto except for track purposes or historic puposes(of which the gto is of no historic reason)
Stealthee
06-23-2007, 06:41 PM
Shut the hell up already. Youve proven time and time again you dont know wtf youre talking about and this is yet another time.
Morphius289
06-23-2007, 10:41 PM
Actually, the reason that the R33 is on the list is because it completed all of its crash testing, unlike the R32 and the R34. See, motorex cheated and said that they did the testing on the R32, R33, and R34, but in actuality they only finished testing on the R33. Which is why they got shut down and sued for millions of dollars.
As far as trying to get a GTO, I dont really see the point. The only reason would be to have an awd SL, but why wouldn't you just get a normal VR4?
As far as trying to get a GTO, I dont really see the point. The only reason would be to have an awd SL, but why wouldn't you just get a normal VR4?
jason_bet
06-24-2007, 04:22 PM
Shut the hell up already. Youve proven time and time again you dont know wtf youre talking about and this is yet another time.
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HAHAHAHAHA :iceslolan
AutostradaVR4
06-24-2007, 09:04 PM
damn this topic is getting annoying...will someone with some time on their hands go try and import a GTO already so we can put this one to rest?! :lol:
vectorspecialist
06-25-2007, 08:52 AM
u know stealthee u said on some other topic that u would ignore me, but u just cuaght up to me, i havent listened to u since somewhere near february.
as for knowing wat i'm talking about, i know the entire reason for y motorex is no longer around, not just being sued for not proving all correct documents for all cars, but check fraud, and assault.
i have papers for importing cars, as do most of u probably do, only i'm in the middle of getting r.i status for a car that i'm not about to say.
and as for the military it works to import it, but u cannot sell it here and wen ur duty is over it must b exported
as for knowing wat i'm talking about, i know the entire reason for y motorex is no longer around, not just being sued for not proving all correct documents for all cars, but check fraud, and assault.
i have papers for importing cars, as do most of u probably do, only i'm in the middle of getting r.i status for a car that i'm not about to say.
and as for the military it works to import it, but u cannot sell it here and wen ur duty is over it must b exported
Stealthee
06-25-2007, 05:54 PM
LMAO You really owned me didnt you? :rolleyes: Fact is, youre an idiot. You cant type in a normal manner. Fact is, I know a shitton more than you and I guarantee people around here respect my opinion MUCH more than yours. In fact most people laugh at you.
MitsubishiGTO95
06-25-2007, 06:19 PM
ok ok the whole reason i want a real gto is because of the MR a lot less awhp then a vr4 but will smoke it eevery time...im betting though getting a gto mr would be rather close to impossible....
Stealthee
06-25-2007, 06:42 PM
The MR is identical in HP to the VR4. Its not much lighter at all than the VR4. The main reason for it being faster is the JDM gearing. The 95/96 Stealth RT/TT is just about identical to the MR in its lack of options. Its even built on the same chassis as the MR (the z15 whereas the VR4 is z16). The only thing the 95/96 RT is missing is the JDM gearing.
Linebckr49
06-25-2007, 08:01 PM
Its even built on the same chassis as the MR (the z15 whereas the VR4 is z16). The only thing the 95/96 RT is missing is the JDM gearing.
don't forget, its also missing the All Wheel Steering.
don't forget, its also missing the All Wheel Steering.
Stealthee
06-25-2007, 08:48 PM
95 and 96 RT/TT do NOT have AWS. ;) Hence the z15 chassis.
Linebckr49
06-25-2007, 08:51 PM
i figured you knew that, i just wanted to point that out for everyone else who didn't know it.
Stealthee
06-25-2007, 08:53 PM
Well I stated its basically identical to the MR in lack of options, so no ECS, no AA (not that stealths ever had it anyway :p), no active exhaust, no digital climate(option on RT/TT), no leather(option on RT/TT), no AWS, no ABS, etc etc etc.
AutostradaVR4
06-25-2007, 09:24 PM
no ABS? wow...surprised they ditched that. does it really add weight?
do all USDM 3/s's have ABS?
do all USDM 3/s's have ABS?
Stealthee
06-25-2007, 09:35 PM
Nope, I dont have ABS and I love it that way. None of the base models have it. ABS is crap anyway.
Youd be surprised how much the ABS system weighs. The ABS pump and the brackety is not light, plus you have all the extra lines. All trying to save weight.
Youd be surprised how much the ABS system weighs. The ABS pump and the brackety is not light, plus you have all the extra lines. All trying to save weight.
vectorspecialist
06-26-2007, 12:17 PM
sorry i forgot my internet writing is getting corrected by English teacher now
Mikelb
06-26-2007, 12:35 PM
I ws just browsin' and ran across this thread... I'm gonna ignore all the flaming, and give you the quick run down (I was at one time trying to become an RI)
To bring in an MR, you'd need about 5-7 to get started. 3-4 get sacrificed to crash testing, another few to modify and test for things like emissions, and NHTSA guidelines (oh and check their website for detailed info)...
Now, if you can pull apart an MR and see that it contains the same parts and PNs as the VR4's here(i.e. brake components, bumpers, etc)... Then you can get those parts to pass off of the safety part easier, because they have already been deemed safe by the government.
It also takes tons of money to bond the cars (to get into the country) and then modify them, then you have to take them to an EPA certified testing lab. You also have to have detailed information on the modifications performed to meet the requirements... Oh, and all the modifications have to be performed by an RI(actually, I think there's another designation for the people who modify the cars, but it's been a few years since I was into this stuff)...
Oh and yeah, Motorex got busted for lots of things... The owner got into some really bad financial deals, he illegally imported the R32's and R34's, work took too long, his business went bankrupt, some cars were stolen, and he was sued... (I forgot where I was going with this...)...
Edit: Oh, and R33's made it into the states because they had a lot in common with the 300Zx's... I've got most of a mod sheet for bringing the R33's in the US (somewhere)
To bring in an MR, you'd need about 5-7 to get started. 3-4 get sacrificed to crash testing, another few to modify and test for things like emissions, and NHTSA guidelines (oh and check their website for detailed info)...
Now, if you can pull apart an MR and see that it contains the same parts and PNs as the VR4's here(i.e. brake components, bumpers, etc)... Then you can get those parts to pass off of the safety part easier, because they have already been deemed safe by the government.
It also takes tons of money to bond the cars (to get into the country) and then modify them, then you have to take them to an EPA certified testing lab. You also have to have detailed information on the modifications performed to meet the requirements... Oh, and all the modifications have to be performed by an RI(actually, I think there's another designation for the people who modify the cars, but it's been a few years since I was into this stuff)...
Oh and yeah, Motorex got busted for lots of things... The owner got into some really bad financial deals, he illegally imported the R32's and R34's, work took too long, his business went bankrupt, some cars were stolen, and he was sued... (I forgot where I was going with this...)...
Edit: Oh, and R33's made it into the states because they had a lot in common with the 300Zx's... I've got most of a mod sheet for bringing the R33's in the US (somewhere)
vectorspecialist
06-26-2007, 01:26 PM
tarrif on a car last time i checked(about a month ago) was 435% wat the car cost i.e. 10g car cost 43,500 to bring in.
most cars from japan are not worth importing in the first place.
honostly i dont know y motorex thought the skyline would b such a great buisness venture, but he did wat he wanted.
cars worth bringing in are those that are from europe, or gas saving cars at this point, who knows what in 5yrs, or hell even next yr
most cars from japan are not worth importing in the first place.
honostly i dont know y motorex thought the skyline would b such a great buisness venture, but he did wat he wanted.
cars worth bringing in are those that are from europe, or gas saving cars at this point, who knows what in 5yrs, or hell even next yr
Mikelb
06-26-2007, 03:36 PM
you're on crack... I had stuff setup to bring in a Racecar Skyline for $12k delivered...
to get through customs, you have to bond the car at 150% of the value of the car, until the car is modified and clears customs...
Edit: just get a friend in Canada... import it into a Canadian port, register it in Canada, and drive it in the US... you have to return to re-register it in Canada every so often, but damn...
to get through customs, you have to bond the car at 150% of the value of the car, until the car is modified and clears customs...
Edit: just get a friend in Canada... import it into a Canadian port, register it in Canada, and drive it in the US... you have to return to re-register it in Canada every so often, but damn...
vectorspecialist
06-26-2007, 03:39 PM
racecar is different than street leagle, u do know that right.
and i love how u have the 3 periods after it's been brought in, got kinda pricey after that didnt it
and i love how u have the 3 periods after it's been brought in, got kinda pricey after that didnt it
AutostradaVR4
06-26-2007, 08:19 PM
Nope, I dont have ABS and I love it that way. None of the base models have it. ABS is crap anyway.
Youd be surprised how much the ABS system weighs. The ABS pump and the brackety is not light, plus you have all the extra lines. All trying to save weight.
i owe my ABS a front-end or 3...:sly:
godamn people cutting out in front of me when im speeding down side streets...:swear::icon16:
Youd be surprised how much the ABS system weighs. The ABS pump and the brackety is not light, plus you have all the extra lines. All trying to save weight.
i owe my ABS a front-end or 3...:sly:
godamn people cutting out in front of me when im speeding down side streets...:swear::icon16:
Stealthee
06-26-2007, 08:40 PM
sorry i forgot my internet writing is getting corrected by English teacher now
And why cant you type like this normally. You know its easier to type normal, than 2 type lik dis. Its also easier to read.
Mikel , awesome post man.
Blink youd be surprised how many people delete their ABS because its crap. It has caused ALOT of accidents acutally.
And why cant you type like this normally. You know its easier to type normal, than 2 type lik dis. Its also easier to read.
Mikel , awesome post man.
Blink youd be surprised how many people delete their ABS because its crap. It has caused ALOT of accidents acutally.
hot3000
06-26-2007, 11:19 PM
i just wanna say you guys are hilarious xD
Linebckr49
06-27-2007, 12:16 AM
and i love how u have the 3 periods after it's been brought in, got kinda pricey after that didnt it
dude, quit digging your own grave.
the 3 periods a literary device called an ellipsis. if someone is already correcting your grammar, the absolute single thing you DON'T want to do is to TRY to correct someone else's grammar.
ellipsis...don't believe me? google it.
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ABS. one reason, if not the only one, why i'm proud to own a base 3S! my engine bay already looks clutter free ;).
dude, quit digging your own grave.
the 3 periods a literary device called an ellipsis. if someone is already correcting your grammar, the absolute single thing you DON'T want to do is to TRY to correct someone else's grammar.
ellipsis...don't believe me? google it.
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ABS. one reason, if not the only one, why i'm proud to own a base 3S! my engine bay already looks clutter free ;).
vectorspecialist
06-27-2007, 08:31 AM
I know what they are called. And i just tried 3 times to get those words capitalized, if something should fail to capitalize then it isn't me it's my keyboard.
DSM Monster
06-27-2007, 12:35 PM
so just out of curiousity does anyone know like how much weight is shaved by ditching ABS. or a write up on how to go about it.
thanks
ps i second the you guys are hilarious thought.
thanks
ps i second the you guys are hilarious thought.
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