fieros rule

I just wanted to say hi! this is my first post on my best freinds well sorta new site. me being the proud owner of a 85 pontiac fiero gt i just thought id show some respect to the first american engine powerhouse they called the fiero.
though i got my car as a handme down from my dad i have long sinced loved it as though it was my very own child. it really pisses me off when i tell everyone that i drive a fiero that they say oh yeah the car that blows up. people dont give credit to what the fiero really was. espescially the gt's. did u know that the 2.8l fiero V-6 actually put out quicker time than the 1984 ferrari 308 gts and this is proven in motor trend. just thought i let u know that. plus the ferrari even had a V-8 pumping out 255 hp which was not much more than that of the fiero. also the overall acoustics of the car are enough to turn the head of most teenagers and old geezers that drive porshes around the town of tallahassee. it might not be a ferrari sounding sportscar but a sportscar it is and for about 1/20 th of the price its a damn good car even if it might blow up someday :) Peace Beezer

Can someone please post the stats of a good Fiero.
I think it could have been alot better, the car wasn't sure if it was an economy car or a sports car, but the GT models were good sports cars, I guess. I don't think it could beat a 308, though. Show me the proof, and then I'll believe it.
You can tune them good, though. I've heard of Northstar V8's in them, some suspension work, and you have a 300hp mid-engined beast.
It must also make a good car to learn about mid-engine characteristics, too.

ill look for it ill have to scan or find the info online. thnaks for replying to my post the fieros is a lonely topic :).

Beez

I like3 responding to posts, and on Yahoo! there are more clubs for Fieros than GTO's or firebirds!
Plus, I know someone who owns 3 Fieros:eek:

Yeah, I really like Fiero's too. I'm really into kit cars, and they provide the base for so many (fino, finale, f-50, f355, 328, jalapeno, scorpion........................).

I'm not sure what a "GT" is....do you have a V6, Beezer?

Yes, there are plenty of kits out there to drop in a Northstar V8, and I believe there is also some for 350's.

Hey enzo! yeah i have the 2.8L V6 in my car. I know it is not the biggest engine but it is put into a two seat car and it is made basically of plastic both a plus and a con. But for what it is worth the V6 puts my fiero w/ upgrades of cousre to 0-60 in bout 7.0 secs which is pretty good i think. i couldnt think about anyone putting a V8 in my car. tohugh people do do it they have to put like 500 pounds in the front of the car to keep the nose down when they take off! :) by the way ive only lost once in all the races around tallahassee which are usually FSU guys souped up hondas. i lost to a viper of course but it was fun. i have still yet to race Justin@af's prelude but we were going to at prom.

Tell us your cars original stats (hp, weight, etc), then the mods you did, and your new estimated power.
I have an idea! Get a Toyota Tacoma Pikes Peak car engine (yah, with 1100hp) and put it in the Fiero! It is light, really, maybe lighter than your engine. AND it is small (about the size of a small suit-case, really, reallyt small.)
Then de-tune it a bit (to, ah, 950hp) to make it livable.BAM, a 950 hp Fiero! IS that an idea or what:alien2:

that would be the shit. that would be really cool. just after we are done converting call up Nasa and tell them we have the new space shuttle for Mars bc u wont be abl to keep that fiero on the ground. :) btw is there really an engine like that bc ive never heard of it. also ill get some stats on here and my upgrades asap. rght now though im stuck with home work. i hate school. peace!

beezer

Yah, the engine is real. There is an article in the June 2000 issue of R&T, pg 64, and some pictures. You can see them at this site (http://www.geocities.com/carnut166/toyota.jpg) Its not up yet, but it will be soon. (no scanner at home)

Oh, and I kinda goofed. It has 850 hp from a 2.13 litre turbo 4. When you squeeze that nitrous button (I don't think that car was equiped- his original burned a few weeks before Pikes peak, and it was rebuilt with {heavier} fiberglass, no NOS, no special shifter) I may be wrong, of course.
So detune it to 750 hp, or 900+ hp with the juice on.
Oh, in full hilclimb outfit, the Tacoma went 9.52 second quarter at 151.76 mph. 0-60 in 2.51 seconds. It was capable of much more.

OK, heres the pic (finally) of that Toyota engine.
Told ya it was tiny!!

stats of a good fiero... 13.3@106mph, spinning through 330' mark on 17s, 279RWHP/312RWtq.

:) and a daily driver.. i love my car..

nitrous fed, for a year now.. my old one was too.. (not as fast) and PUMMELS the egos of many other drivers.

the following link is my dyno sheet.. a 109hp wet shot...
www.fiero.nl/uploads/1fst-schoolgirl.jpg

Nice car. Are you running the stock motor? I'm guessing you are by those stats. Ever thought about a small block conversion?

yep stock motor. 2.8, automatic TH125. (it's got 30,000 on the new block)

www.fiero.nl/uploads/1fstdyno_manymods.jpg

thats my normal dyno graph. it pulls pretty good. heads shaved 20, ported intake, bigger TB, the easy coolant bypass, headers, shift kit, MSD 6a, Crane ps91 coil. and Apexi S-AFC, camaro 350 injectors.

thought about a SBC.. just waiting for the engine to tank then i'll dive into that.

Fieros are cool, I own 2 at the moment. But will be selling because I need a bigger car :(. If you want a good site for fiero info go to http://www.fiero.nl/forum . About 3000 users and its all fiero related. Not that this site isn't good, but I have only seen like 3 fieros on it so far.

Ok, me being a 85' Fiero GT owner, I will clear things up. The fiero stock had 145 hp and 165 lbs or torque. Slighty modded and your in the 160's hp. 1/4 is about low 15's, really good drivers claim hi 14's. But average, 15.5 at 85 mph on 1/4. Not bad for what it is. Cornering, the bitch can zing. There aren't many cars that good. With the engine in the middle, wieght distrubition is really good. My Fiero can smoke most cars on the road. Like 60 to 80%. The 85' GTs are the fastest stock Fieros. 3 reasons, emmission cut down 86' V-6s on up, they got heavier (not much), and the 85's came in 4-speeds while half way through 86, they introduced 5's. Fiero is my favorite car ever.

One more thing, fieros are a heavy little car, 2500 lbs.

I saw one recently, with a 305 chevy, 275 horse. He said it was easy to get in, and claimed a high 11 quarter. I dont believe it, but it would be fast. There was still room, too (NOS, anyone??) A 400+hp Northstar would be good.

http://www.fiero.nl/uploads/1fstmeat2.jpg

i've driven V8 fieros and they are stupid fun.. but just a bit out of my price range.. it's easier and much more fun to blow a cocky camaro or mustang's doors off with a V6. :)

But if you put in new internals or a cam, you probably already yanked teh engine, so just sell it (or keep it, just in case) and put in a bigger, much more powerful V8 (there are TONS of swaps for 5L fords, and they are cheap and easy to mod)

noone makes a 5l ford swap.. Zumalt and zumwalt made hokey SCB swaps and V8 Archie makes the best SBC kit. itve driven V8 fieros and yes their fun but just too rich for my check book right now.

I am positive I have seen 5L ford swaps, they have 225 hp. These were a little old, so maybe they dont sell it anymore, but it was once.

I've never heard of a ford 5l swap... you could swap in a chevy 305 and have a real 5.0 Fiero... :D

I'm pretty sure it was the 5.0 L (302). Maybe it was the 351, but I think it was the five-O.

the only five-o that anyone makes a kit for is for the chevy 305. or nearly any SBC. the ford engine won't fit with out extensive reengineering of the rear cradle. and why bastardize a pontiac with a ford engine?

www.v8archie.com

I am absolutely positive it was a ford engine. I agree that a Chevy SMB is better. But some people have different preferences, and they might love ford engines, but they like the Fiero's potential.

hey what up every on i just found this site and its prettty kool i am only 15 but i am really interested in fieros and hope i can learn alot more about them from you fiero owners because i am planing on buying an 86 gt some time in 2002

Welcome top AF! And feel free to PM or E-mail Fiero owners here for info, they would probably help you out.

kool thanks so i was reading some of your post and i still dont know do you own a fiero and if so what kind do you own and could you tell me some of the mods you have

No, I dont own a Fiero. I am currently looking for a car, and I am now considering a Fiero. If I got one, I could quite easily see a 350 living in the back, though:D

yeah i ve been considering getting a fiero ever since my mom had one when i was about 5 now i am 15 and really looking forward to getting one because i am getting my permit in about 10 months and just found a person who lives in the next state over but works in the town where my school is in mass but is willing to sell me a 1986 gt fiero it is in really good condition and it is a v6 5 speed but i wil defintly make my own body mods but i am not sure what i should do about the engine cause its ok stock but i want to be pushin out about 350 hp or higher if possible what do you think i should do because i am thinkin of doin a little street racing and i want to be able to burn some rubber

If you want 350hp, you need a new engine. Some people are putting in Northstar engines, but that could be pricey. It is very easy to get a 305 in there, and a 350 will work too. If you found a 350 from an 80's Camaro, that would be good. Then put in high compression pistons, a hot cam, exhaust, intake manifold, etc, etc, and you should have 350 hp no problem. If you got the complete car,you could also use the tranny (the V6 5 speed might not stand up to the torque)

what if i wanted to keep the same transmission and the stock v6 and just do motor work to it how much do you think i could get out of it makes by doing other mods like performance motor parts and racing cams and a supercharger and stuff like that and if youo dont thinkl that would be a good idea do you think i could put an 80 s camero engine in it because i could easily get ahold of one of those or an iroc series car i might be able to get on other question is it at all possible to fit a 50 or cobra mustang engine in the fiero just wondering but i dont think i would do that well let me know what you think

oh sorry i ment a 5.0 mustang not a 50

An 80's Camaro 350 should fit in fine. Of course, join a club for more info on how to do it. I think a 5.0 should fit, but 350's are much easier and easier to tune.
It would probably be cheaper to mod a 350 then to supercharge teh V6, and the 350 would be more powerful. However, there is one guy on the Fiero board who has done up his V6 quite nicely, and I think he runs 13's. Seek him out, he should help there.

Also, be aware that there is a HUGE support group out there.

PS, you can use periods:)

oh yeah sorry about that period thing. Well maybe i ll try and get a
chevy camero engin for it when i buy the 86. I have another question

for you does the fiero run carb or efi (electonic fuel injection) just
wondering. here are a few things i am thinking about doing to my fiero

when i get it. I am planning on getting some new rims with some low
profile tires and a new paint job with a rear spoiler and tinted windows

for the outside. on the inside i would like to put in a cd player racing
wheel, racing pedals, racing shifter,racing seats, new floor matts ,and a

nice set of speakers prolly 15 or 12 inch with 4 2 inch tweeters and a 1200 watt amp wich i will prolly put in the trunk iff possible and maybe

put the amp under the hood.under the hood i ll prolly put in the camero engine and on the wind sheld i was going to put a strip across the top

saying something like pontiac or fiero i no it will cost alot of money but i am working hard and i will get most of this done bye next september

or so i hope. :smoka:

The V6 has fuel injection, I'm 98% sure.

Those are quite ambitious plans. I see at least 5 grand extra. And dont neglect the suspension and brakes! Some coil-overs whould help, dropping the car a few inches. At least get some better brake pads, as all-new brakes could be expensive.

Once you begin, and start picking actual parts, start a thread to keep us posted!!

yeah but the kool thing is is the guy put a buch of new stuff on the car before he put it up for sale and its been for sale for like 2 weeks and he

isnt going to drive it until i buy it and it wont be long until i get it. I think he got 4 new tires new brakes and pads front end alighment ac charged

new shocks and struts and a few other regular tune up things like oil/air filters and oil change.and it wont cost near 5,000 to fix because i go to a

tech school and they can paint it and tint it there cheaply and they have a chevy engine in my automotive shop the said i can have when i get

the car the only thing i have to do is put it in and tune it up if i change engines and its mine the shop teacher said so it will cost me alot less


plus i get all the electronic help i need there in eltronics shop so the can hook up my speekers be cause i dont know much about that but i am

sure my friend can help me with that he knows everything about engines.oh and i found a cheap spoiler that will fit the fiero and it is better than a regular fiero spoiler

The cheapre the better. But you still have to buy the stuff.

true true.well thanks fo all your help today i ll prolly be on everday after i get out of school trying to get information about fieros and all day on the weekends so i ll talk to you about them then but i have to go now see ya later i ll keep on letting you know about how every thing is coming along befor i start a new thread bye :smoka:

LMAO.. i hope you guys are joking.. PLEASE tell me your bs'in.. first off the trannys won't interchage form a camaor.. event he first 84 fiero had fuel injection. a 15" sub with a 1200w amp.. oh please. if your looking for spl this isnt' the car.. i had an audio set up in my 86 se that would hit 141.3 and be pretty clear... tht was the biggest waste of $.. the gts came with a sub woffer a 6" just replavce the speaker and hook it to a decent amp that plenty of noise. an installation kit for a smal block chevy is about $1550 for the most basic parts...


www.1fst2m6.com my web page... (under construction.. but look around anyway.. the text's are buttons)

Yes, you would need a Camaro tranny. But that is pretty expensive to get it in, there must be a cheaper way.

why would you need a camaro tranny? not to be brash but have you ever seen a V8 in a fiero? i've driven 3-4 of them, replaced 2 clutches in them and currently messaging a SBC to put in mine.. the stock tranny stays.. the stock axles stay, its virtually plug and play(with the installation system from Archie) and. (20 hours worth the installation but still no major modifications need to be made.) needing a camaro tranny sounds just a uneducated as using a ford engine for the swap. you want a MKI MR2 S/C.. so i'm sure you know that it's easy to swap the SC14 for the current SC12... it's about that easy. slight modification to a few things and poof your pushing more air. i've got a GZE motor with intercooler sitting in my garage if your interested. (oh yeah a GZE is the supercharged intercooled engine for a MKI mr2)

I dont know a whole whole bunch about fiero's, but I guessed that the stock tranny might not be up to the power, but if it is, great!

And I've seen a Fiero with a 305 in it, the engine itself looked ratty, but the guy said he got it in with no problems, him and some friends did it on a weekend!

About the MR2, I've just decided it would be good a few weeks ago, and am looking for more info on it. Is the SC14 just a bigger blower (I mean different pulleys). If so, where could I do this and how much?

the stock tranny s are holding together very well with GMs ZZ4 ctare engine mated to them (400hp/430lbft).


the SC14 is the supercharger off the previa.. it has as it's named .2 of a liter more displacement to it. making it work less to produce the same power. HKS makes a boost upgrade kit that will spin the s/c faster making more boost but it has been shown to cause rotor wear and failure due to the heat generated by the additional rpm and strein. the 14 will bolt to the manifold but you'll have to fabricate bracktry to support the heavier unit so it doens't crack the intake. the stock brackets unfortunatly will not work. or you can just spin the crap out of the 12. it'll be goot to 12psi before it starts to flake and fail..but they are cheap to rebuild and easy to replace.. the failure is'nt that quick.. 15-20k with VERY hard driving and poor maintenance.

Hey what up guys i have not been around for a while cause i have been messing with my fourwheeler and stuff but ne ways.
I was wonddering if ne of you know where i can find performance parts for the fiero instead of all these sites about inport cars. i am so sick of hearing that import cars are the best like civics and mitshubishi and stuff i mean they are some nice cars but way over rated i like the fiero much better . if you could hook me up with some kool web sites i would appreciate it thanks talk to yall later :bandit:

Rob
Don't know if I'm allowed to link to other forums here, so I'm just going to suggest you do a google search for Fiero forums and see what you come up with. Or just follow the suggestion posted above by 1fst2m6. There is at least a couple with vendors listed in their website.

yeah i already used google thats how i found this site but thank ne ways i l prolly find some other search engines :bandit:

tempting to buy one, how is the maintance on these guys? I heard they were pretty bad, that orange one looks hot!!!

Maintenance on a Fiero is not much worse than any other car, considering the first one was built in '84 and the last in '88. The v's are hard to get to anything on the driver's side of the eng, but managable.
The '84 only offered the 4 cyl 'duke' engine, so engine swaps in it are mmuch more difficult because of wiring and ecm issues. The later models have a prety wide range of mods & swaps available, including the Cadillac northstar v8. We estimate there about 10,000 still on the road worldwide.
You might want to check out Fiero Forums in a search, & look for Pennocks Fiero Forum. (moderators, if I'm out of line here, edit please)
4000 members & lots of info. They're geting higher each year, for decent ones, but I've seen some recently for $800-$1000. A decent GT-2.8 will $1500-$4000, depending on condition. Good luck. Hope more Fiero owners join in here.

Originally posted by halfast

You might want to check out Fiero Forums in a search, & look for Pennocks Fiero Forum. (moderators, if I'm out of line here, edit please)
4000 members & lots of info.

It is perfectly fine and encouraged to help out fellow members. Obviously, no web site will satisfy everyones automotive needs.

Originally posted by FieroKyle
Ok, me being a 85' Fiero GT owner, I will clear things up. The fiero stock had 145 hp and 165 lbs or torque. Slighty modded and your in the 160's hp. 1/4 is about low 15's, really good drivers claim hi 14's. But average, 15.5 at 85 mph on 1/4. Not bad for what it is. Cornering, the bitch can zing. There aren't many cars that good. With the engine in the middle, wieght distrubition is really good. My Fiero can smoke most cars on the road. Like 60 to 80%. The 85' GTs are the fastest stock Fieros. 3 reasons, emmission cut down 86' V-6s on up, they got heavier (not much), and the 85's came in 4-speeds while half way through 86, they introduced 5's. Fiero is my favorite car ever.

Actually, 1988 Formula's were the fastest. They had some new things in the engine, the GT's lotus engineered suspension, and the light weight of the notchback body.

BTW, I know everything there is to know about Fieros, from stock stats and maintenance to engine swaps and the ridiculous. If anyone has a question, feel free to ask.:)

Originally posted by 1FST2M6
noone makes a 5l ford swap.. Zumalt and zumwalt made hokey SCB swaps and V8 Archie makes the best SBC kit. itve driven V8 fieros and yes their fun but just too rich for my check book right now.

Archie does make the best SBC kit. The Northstar conversion is pretty nice, because of the torque and free revving dohc valvetrain. The downside is you have to use the 4T60 or 4T80-E automatic.

The 2.8 V6 is part of GM's 60 degree V6 lineup. The top of this line is the 3.4 liter Twin Dual Cam motor. This engine has all sorts of goodies like crankshaft timing, Sequential fuel injection, distributerless ignition, and a DOHC 4 valve head. These engines came in Monte Carlo and
Lumina Z-34's, early Grand Prix GTPs, and a few Oldsmobiles. The interesting part is, the engine was to replace the 350 in Camaro/Firebirds, and they planned on using the LT5 ZR1 motor in Corvettes, so the 3.4 TDC was originally tuned to about 280bhp. The Hydromatic 460 series transmissions(older version of 4T60 and 80's) was too weak to handle the power, so they detuned the engine to 205hp for the auto, and 210 hp for the standard. However, they detuned it by simply installing a ECU chip that slowed the ignition and fuel curves.

Ergo, you add a new chip for about $500 from a company like RK Sport, and you have a 300 BHP, 275 FT LB, 8000 rpm monster of a V6, that drops right in to your Fiero. 0-60 times range from 5-5.5 seconds for the stock 3400 TDC, to as low as 3 seconds flat for a tuned motor. Expect 4.5 seconds for a motor with a cold air intake and ECU chip, with the entire swap costing between 1500 and 4000 bucks, depending on how you build it.

Phwew, that was a long rant. You can find out about all the details on this perfect engine swap at www.pelkie.com/fiero.htm.

That conversion was done by Mr Glubrecht, I believe. Many thanks to this page, and the details of how to turn any stock V6 Fiero into a Ferrari thumping Lamborghini eating sportscar that gets 30 MPG, for about 5000 dollars(including car).

Originally posted by Robs gt
what if i wanted to keep the same transmission and the stock v6 and just do motor work to it how much do you think i could get out of it makes by doing other mods like performance motor parts and racing cams and a supercharger and stuff like that and if youo dont thinkl that would be a good idea do you think i could put an 80 s camero engine in it because i could easily get ahold of one of those or an iroc series car i might be able to get on other question is it at all possible to fit a 50 or cobra mustang engine in the fiero just wondering but i dont think i would do that well let me know what you think

No offense to GM engineers, but the 2.8 was pretty weak by even 80's standards. My advice is to forget about tuning the 2.8

If you're going to consider an engine swap, the V8's are expensive, and add about 160lbs to the V6, and around 220lbs to the 4cyl. If you plan to race you'll go through clutches like dental floss, and the Isuzu 4 speed is not a very stong tranny.

My advice is look into the later GM 60 degree V6's(3.1 turbo's and 3.4s). I think for your purposes, you should consider the Buick 3800 Series II. It's got lots of torque, up to 250hp stock, and lots of room to tune. Better than the V8's, at least in my humble opinion.

Actually i dont think izuzu made and iroc car but i may be wrong :flipa: but i actuall meant something like a 1980s chevy camero v8 small block 350 or 305 which ever it is. because i already found one that i can get and get installed from some one on the web. then i would be able to race and i hate 4 cylinders and i wouldnt burn out my clutch cause i know how to driva a standard well enough not oto burn out the clutch.

I dont know there is way to many things to consider right now so i may just end up leaving it a regular v6 5 spd tranny

to those who think the 88 formula was lotus tuned or whatever it wasnt it was a rumer that people had. and for whoever said the 4 spd was made by isuzu your wrong it was made by munic and the 5 spd was isuzu. so check into these things more before you open your mouths. i have been reading everything on fieros for about 4 yrs now. i also have an 85gt and have not been beaten so far. mods include new high performance cams, 85 hypertech chip 4 stage turbo ported to 3.1. new exhaust by oscelot without cat. aridium spark plugs 10mm plug wires, and a custom air intake made by autobahn racing with k&n filter. has ram air scoop on top of car. if you look at the origional indy pace car the one that was actually there and you will see what it looks like and many more mods. some parts like exhaust was purchaced through www.fierostore.com and the rest purchaced from my local racing store called autobahn racing in wichita ks

Originally posted by b85gt
to those who think the 88 formula was lotus tuned or whatever it wasnt it was a rumer that people had. and for whoever said the 4 spd was made by isuzu your wrong it was made by munic and the 5 spd was isuzu. so check into these things more before you open your mouths. i have been reading everything on fieros for about 4 yrs now

Um, hate to tell you this, but I've been into Fieros since I was 10. The 4 speed tranny was assembled by Muncie(in Indiana I think), and so was the 5 speed. The 4 speed was an Isuzu design, entering GM productin when in '79 or '80 GM came out with the Chevrolet Citation, which donated the drivetrain for the Fiero. The 5 speed was a Getrag design(Getrag also design trannies for Corvettes, K-Cars, Porsches like mine), but again was built by Muncie for GM. The whole Lotus tuning thing has nothing to do with the engine or drivetrain. Lotus input was only in the suspension, which was designed especially for the Fiero in 1982. However, do to General Motors penny pinching, which ultimately doomed the Fiero in the first place, they only used the Lotus collaberated suspension in the 88's, and by then it was too late.

This is the same thing with the engines. In 1984, GM management over ruled the designers and engineers on the matter of the base 4 cylinder engine. The engineers wanted to use the Oldsmobile DOHC Quad 4 mill, which is a good engine by todays standards, and phenomal for early 80s American cars. Many of the so called unreliability problems and fire problems often associated with Fiero's were because the Chevette/Citation 4 cyls had faulty connecting rods that broke, blowing the motor.

Originally posted by Robs gt
but i actuall meant something like a 1980s chevy camero v8 small block 350 or 305 which ever it is. because i already found one that i can get and get installed from some one on the web. then i would be able to race and i hate 4 cylinders and i wouldnt burn out my clutch cause i know how to driva a standard well enough not oto burn out the clutch.

That can be done easily enough, but you'll have to use the 5 speed, unless you want to do a whole lot of work, and spend a whole lot more money. I learned all about the V8 swaps from a guy outside of Chicago, going by the name of Archie.

Visit his site at www.v8archie.com

Don't buy any other kit than his, because they all cost about the same in the end, and his works a whole hell of a lot better.

You're going to end up about a 150 pounds heavier, so you might want to beef up the suspension just a little too. For not a lot of money, you can go to UAP/NAPA, and get replacement Firebird rotors for your brakes. They don't cost any more than Fiero rotors, but they're bigger, and cool better. Be sure to get the NAPA ones, because they're actually better than OEM Firebirds.

But you'll still need a good clutch.:sun:

www.barrettraceway.com i'm car of the month!

theres virtually NO maintenace to do.. the timing components are good for well over 100k miles... the only thing that may fail is the cruise control solinoid or the EGR solinoid.. and both can be replace or band-aided for under $50. they handle well and under proper tuning will run 12s in the 1/4 with a V6!



(12.92@109 commerece Raceway in Atlanta)

uum firebird rotors DO NOT WORK the back spacing for the rotor face is wrong.. the bolt pattern is incorrect.. new 87 Grand am front calipers and front dics will work on the back of the Fiero (pre-88).. don't replace the front you will loose braking power and INcrease your stopping distance.. only change the back brakes.

the archie clutch is great for street applications.. i had a 4puck ACT with and extreme pressure plate that held well over 300lbft and over 500lbft with shock load (in a shift) and never flintched.

http://www.fiero.nl/uploads/1fst4puck.jpg my former 86 SE Clutch. would chirp 4th well over 80mph.

http://www.fiero.nl/uploads/1fsttime9701.jpg - best 1.8th mile time I'm #350.. = 12.78 in the 1/4 but i've yet to break 12.92. (NHRA states 1/8mi time X 1.56=1/4mi time. )

Originally posted by 1FST2M6
www.barrettraceway.com i'm car of the month!

uum firebird rotors DO NOT WORK the back spacing for the rotor face is wrong.. the bolt pattern is incorrect.. new 87 Grand am front calipers and front dics will work on the back of the Fiero (pre-88).. don't replace the front you will loose braking power and INcrease your stopping distance.. only change the back brakes.


Really? I was told that the later Firebird rotors, which are about an inch or two bigger in diameter and half an inch in thickness, would fit the fiero bolt patern. I know you have to relocate the caliper with a bracket, but any good exhaust shop will fabricate that in 5 minutes.

I don't actually own a fiero, so I haven't tried it.