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fatninja19
10-29-2002, 09:18 PM
can someone please direct me to some websites that give good information on sport bikes? i'm very interested and is going to take a class to get my permit at the local community college soon!

-The Stig-
10-29-2002, 10:30 PM
sweet! A fellow rider!... where in tarwhoozt is Walnut?

If its near Long Beach we can meet up Via Motorscooters!

Although i wouldnt recommend a sport bike as your first bike, if you havent riden before. Lots of power to get into trouble with in a hurry.

But get what you want!

Umm as for websites on Bikes... I guess check out any of the manufactures sites like Yammerhammer (http://www.yamaha-motor.com/), Honder (http://www.hondamotorcycles.com/preview/),Suzuki (bless you.) (http://www.suzukicycles.com/), Kawalski (http://www.kawasaki.com/index2.asp), Ferris Bueller (http://www.buell.com/)...

of course theres Ducati (http://www.ducati.com), Aprilia (http://www.aprilia.com/portale/index.htm)

As for general information.. cant really help ya...sorry duder :(

-The Stig-
10-29-2002, 10:35 PM
oh heck, Walnut CA is just north of Diamond Bar... pshhh you're close as hell to me.


We should meet up sometime, you could meet the Evil KITTY CREW! *ominous music*

*wonders* Where does that music come from?

YellowMaranello
10-29-2002, 10:37 PM
Why don't you go and check up on our motorcycles forum? Lots of good information in there.:)

R1-rider
10-30-2002, 01:17 AM
so you get beat by a sportsbike horribly in a race? lemme guess now you want to get one!

balls > brains

Cbass
10-30-2002, 10:11 PM
Buell!! Hot Rod Harleys!

-The Stig-
10-30-2002, 11:12 PM
Buell is so much more advanced than Harley now its not even funny.

They dumped the old 1203cc motors Vtwin and designed their own 1000cc Vtwin motor that just kicks the crap out of the Harley Versions.


A friend of mine works for Glendale Harley, and is a Test Rider for Buell. He also races them, i've seen these bikes upclose. They're the definition of BADASS.
Pics of the Buell XB9R Firebolt (http://www.buell.com/products/motorcycles/firebolt/fireboltgallery.asp)

When he showed up, the bike 'sings' after being shut down. It has dual electric fans that blow on the cylinder heads for a period of time. The gas is carried in the hollow frame rather up top for lower COG. The oil reserve is carried in the swing arm to also help with the lower COG. Not to mention the front brake disc is bolted to the outside of the rim rather at the Hub. This gives it better stopping power, physics show that the outside of a rotating object moves slower thus the brake has less mass to slow down... not to mention the 6 piston caliper that bites down on it.

Ok I shut up now.

R1-rider
10-31-2002, 12:24 AM
Yes, but watching the buell go up against a real sportsbike is quite enjoyable. and buell's are very ugly :p

But eitherway they did make the right choice in stepping away from harley.

-The Stig-
10-31-2002, 01:29 AM
i knew you'd say that, infact i bet myself $5 that you would. Im now... well i still have $5.


They're quite dandy bikes in the twisties, ugly yeah but they dont look like everyother japanese bike. Plus they're cheaper to buy*, insurance is low cause they're not considered a sport bike because they dont have the plastic body work.

* Sticker Price is a bit high for them now.. but i suspect it'll come down.

Cbass
10-31-2002, 02:46 AM
Originally posted by R1-rider
Yes, but watching the buell go up against a real sportsbike is quite enjoyable. and buell's are very ugly :p

But eitherway they did make the right choice in stepping away from harley.

Buells are more comfortable, the riding position is more natural, and they look beautiful. Buells have very nice low end torque, they're very civil around town. Also, how much does an R1 weigh? 390 isn't it? A Firebolt weighs 380...

If you ask me, which you didn't, I think an R1 looks as ridiculous as a Civic with a huge wing on it... Mechanically, I love the R1, but I think superbikes look like giant spoilers...

fatninja19
10-31-2002, 07:09 PM
yo Redneck, i'd love to meet up.. but i dont know about Long Beach and Walnut being close as heck..hahha...

R-1... I didn't get killed by a sportbike.. i doubt anyone would even waste gas on a minivan.. plus, they dont really even need to get on it to put me 10,000 car lengths behind them. I just always had interest in bikes... perhaps its something about the wind rushing all around you, or the two wheel nature.. idunno...

R1-rider
11-01-2002, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by Cbass


Buells are more comfortable, the riding position is more natural, and they look beautiful. Buells have very nice low end torque, they're very civil around town. Also, how much does an R1 weigh? 390 isn't it? A Firebolt weighs 380...

If you ask me, which you didn't, I think an R1 looks as ridiculous as a Civic with a huge wing on it... Mechanically, I love the R1, but I think superbikes look like giant spoilers...

Looks are opinions so want try to argue with ya. However the Buell doesn't have as much low-end torque as you would think, even though it is a vtwin it can't compare to a RCV or TLR. There is a reason why harley/buell has its own racing devisions.

Anyway yea, dryweight for a firebolt is 385lbs , but it only has 92 ponies and 68ftlbs. Compared to my R1's 385lbs (stock, not anymore), and my 132 ponies and 74ftlbs.

But for a street fighter it is a good looking bike, like I don't like the fazer1000 at all. However once Suzuki releases the Bking, it will make buells look like mopeds.

Cbass
11-01-2002, 08:32 AM
Yeah, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I like the raw visceral look of the Buell Firebolt over the R1, which seems overly aerodynamic looking...

As for the performance, while the R1 has better acelleration times, and higher peak torque, at low rpms, the Buell has more torque. For the usable rpms around town, the Buell is a lot more civil and willing.

R1-rider
11-01-2002, 12:08 PM
/me downshifts and waves bye

YellowMaranello
11-01-2002, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by R1-rider

However once Suzuki releases the Bking, it will make buells look like mopeds.
Once Suzuki releases the Bking, with almost 100 hp on the Busa, it will make everything look like a moped.:rolleyes:

Cbass
11-01-2002, 03:42 PM
Pretty much... I was reading an article in one of my Canuck bike magazines, and they claimed it was going to be the most powerful production bike ever, and by a very large margin :eek:

fatninja19
11-01-2002, 09:07 PM
can someone give me some specs and more info about this bike that has 100hp over a busa?!?!?!?!:eek:

YellowMaranello
11-01-2002, 09:13 PM
Not 100, but the Busa had 160ish, and in this, they're talking about 240+. There's a link to the article on it in the street bikes forum.

R1-rider
11-02-2002, 02:10 AM
Let me give you an example of what so much power is like on a daily basis.

Having a very fast vehicle is like having a huge dick. When you are racing it is all great and happy. But during your daily routine in life, it just gets in the way.

fatninja19
11-02-2002, 03:04 PM
hahhahahahhaahahahha... thats funny r1...hahahhahah

Cbass
11-02-2002, 05:14 PM
Pretty much, which is why I'd be content with a Buell Firebolt... More relaxed riding position, more low end grunt to get moving. Easier to ride than an R1, and much less common(at least where I live)

Then again, the most powerful bike I've ever been on was an R6 that a friend of a friend owned, and an R1 is the same bike with a bigger engine...

Layla's Keeper
11-02-2002, 09:42 PM
Well, my Dad and I share an old 80's Kawasaki 550. It's a pretty standard Japanese motorcycle. Too revvy to be a cruiser, too uncomfortable to be a tourer, too laid back to be a sport bike, it's just a UJB (ubiquitous Japanese bike). It does have great pick-up though. And is a blast to ride.

But, god and/or satan willing, someday I will park a 70's Triumph or BSA/Norton sport bike next to Layla. I need a matched set!:angel:

Though I would settle for one of those drop dead gorgeous all-conquering Ducati 996R's. How many wins did Troy Bayliss have this year on one of those?

What I'm trying to say, though, is that a UJB is good for daily use. They can rise to just about whatever demand you ask of them, and require less maintenance than most cars.

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