93 Concorde idle problems
therebelprophet
06-07-2007, 04:49 PM
Here's the deal. This car is one of the first EVER Concordes. Production date was 11/16/92. Yikes. It's been used and abused and I'm just trying to keep it running a little longer until I buy me something better. I've already fixed myriad problems on this car and I'm sure I'll fix a few more before I'm done.
Anyway, paid $500 for the car, took it home, and it ran fine. Then it started to have really erratic idle problems. It would idle at a normal level (around 800 or so), then shoot up to 1400 or 2000 rpm's then go down to 1000 then back up to 2000, 3000...long story short, I changed the IAC valve...but I didn't have the money for a new one so I bought one from a junkyard. It looked brand new, so why not?
Now it consistently idles at between 1100 and 1400 RPM and will, occasionally, idle back down to 800 or so, but when it does, the engine runs like it's missing on more than one cylinder. But then it idles back up and there's no indication that it's missing.
I think the computer (PCM) was changed, but I haven't checked it against the numbers I recently dug up for the original part number. The code I keep getting is 56 (I think...OBD I) "short in iac valve".
So, the two problems are with the high idle and with the rough idle at "normal" idle speeds. (Oh, and my dad's been a mechanic for 30 years and even he is scratching his head.) Help?:banghead:
Anyway, paid $500 for the car, took it home, and it ran fine. Then it started to have really erratic idle problems. It would idle at a normal level (around 800 or so), then shoot up to 1400 or 2000 rpm's then go down to 1000 then back up to 2000, 3000...long story short, I changed the IAC valve...but I didn't have the money for a new one so I bought one from a junkyard. It looked brand new, so why not?
Now it consistently idles at between 1100 and 1400 RPM and will, occasionally, idle back down to 800 or so, but when it does, the engine runs like it's missing on more than one cylinder. But then it idles back up and there's no indication that it's missing.
I think the computer (PCM) was changed, but I haven't checked it against the numbers I recently dug up for the original part number. The code I keep getting is 56 (I think...OBD I) "short in iac valve".
So, the two problems are with the high idle and with the rough idle at "normal" idle speeds. (Oh, and my dad's been a mechanic for 30 years and even he is scratching his head.) Help?:banghead:
mmcin50
06-17-2007, 11:29 PM
Double check one more time for a vacuum leak. Look for cracked plastic, mushy rubber connectors and fittings, etc. Slide them off, feel for a 'good fit', reinstall... replace as necessary. Careful with the skinny plastic tubing, it can be broken all too easily.
There should be a map of the vacuum system somewhere - if you can find the map, it will help you make a checklist so you don't miss any vacuum lines.
Just my :2cents:, this is cheap and relatively easy, and often will solve the problem. Don't just look at the hoses, touch them, wiggle them, and replace if questionable.
There should be a map of the vacuum system somewhere - if you can find the map, it will help you make a checklist so you don't miss any vacuum lines.
Just my :2cents:, this is cheap and relatively easy, and often will solve the problem. Don't just look at the hoses, touch them, wiggle them, and replace if questionable.
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