which intake?

which one is da best...?? u must have the intake to answer this question

Cold air intake. For every 10° cooler equals about 1% gain or around 1-2hp on mild moded honda's.

the best intake is the stock honda ones, all the other just make you sounds faster, very few hondas that actually have intakes are fast.

Originally posted by cybercrx00
the best intake is the stock honda ones, all the other just make you sounds faster, very few hondas that actually have intakes are fast.
this is true although it does give you a small increase in power its hardly anything noticeable.

go AEM all the way fellas, it is a nice piece. my friend has and RSX, it gave him a 20 horsepower gain on the dyno, only 300 bucks

i also have to add that injen is good as well, i understand it is about 18 horsepower gain, jsut remember: speed is money, how fst do you want to go

hahahhahahahahahhahahaahahhaha you guys are funny, 20hp on the dyno, maybe with a jrsc installed

300 dollars? 20 HP gain? can't wait til i get my $1,000 catback exhaust with the 150 HP gain.... dyno tested... :right: right...



For the sole purpose of engine dressup, do they sell aluminum or chrome intake piping that will hookup from the throttle body to the stock airbox?

no, but I do believe there AEM now has polished intake systems. You want to dress it up, drop a turbo kit in there

I'd rather supercharge it... Something about a blown h23 just appeals to me... OH YEA... the power!!!

Which forced induction application creates more torque? SC, or Turbo? If I had to guess it'd be the supercharger.

I'm sure turbo, and with a broader powerband, there isn't a huge SC following for hundas, otherwise they might be up tehre with turbos

Originally posted by cybercrx00
I'm sure turbo, and with a broader powerband, there isn't a huge SC following for hundas, otherwise they might be up tehre with turbos
go with a turbo, a smaller one will also produce less lag. the SC draws to much power away from the motor.

Originally posted by Prelewd
I'd rather supercharge it... Something about a blown h23 just appeals to me... OH YEA... the power!!!

Which forced induction application creates more torque? SC, or Turbo? If I had to guess it'd be the supercharger.

the turbo will generate higher peak power. the supercharger will give you more usable power for everyday driving. it just depends on what you plan for it. daily driver, i'd go for the jrsc. otherwise go with a turbo. the power's right there when you step on the gas with the supercharger, you don't have to wait for it to spool like with the turbo. on the other hand, the flexibility with the turbo and power potential is very appealing if you're gonna be racing the car.

i'm not gonna recommend one over the other until you say what your intentions are. there's pluses and minuses of both systems depending on what you want.

I've driven plenty of turbo cars, and the lag is really nothing even to consider. I mean it's not like it takes 30 seconds to get boost, a properly sized ball-bearing turbo will have almost no lag in useable rpm's anyways. I put a jrsc on a 2000 SI, it was fun and all, but you really only notice a difference in the low rpms, which in a honda you rarely are in anyways due to their gearing and such. I believe there is a much bigger aftermarket, many more choices, and much more flexibility with turbo setups, but the choice is always up to the end user

Originally posted by cybercrx00
I've driven plenty of turbo cars, and the lag is really nothing even to consider. I mean it's not like it takes 30 seconds to get boost, a properly sized ball-bearing turbo will have almost no lag in useable rpm's anyways. I put a jrsc on a 2000 SI, it was fun and all, but you really only notice a difference in the low rpms, which in a honda you rarely are in anyways due to their gearing and such. I believe there is a much bigger aftermarket, many more choices, and much more flexibility with turbo setups, but the choice is always up to the end user

a jrsc'd lude is far from a jrsc'd civic. trust me. i'm not all about defending the supercharger route but go try a jrsc prelude 5 speed, and you'd be quite surprised like most people. breaking 13's in preludes is easily obtainable with the jrsc at the stock 6psi. the m62 blower jr uses for the prelude is so much more potent than the m45. you can't really compare the jrsc on a civic with one a prelude. they're two different worlds. don't get me wrong, the tunability of a turbo is far superior to that of a jrsc and the potential for more power is greater, but don't downplay the capability of a jrsc prelude, not civic, until you've tried it.

I suppose there is a mig difference between the 1.6l and 2.2l after boost is added

I suppose it does come down to the actual use of car. I just want to make it your average showcar/stoplight racer. I think the blown h23 would look nice on the show floor because of it's difference from the usual turbo application.

Also, having driven a prelude for sometime now, I have noticed the lack of power on takeoff. I really wanted something to compensate for that, and with a supercharger (no lag, however minor it may be), I think the problem would be solved. 6 P.S.I. doesn't seem like much, but it seems that it would be enough if you built a good engine around it. Del, you have any figures for me?

Speaking of building a good engine around it, what kind of parts would you have to reinforce for the reliability? I wouldn't mind getting started on the small stuff now, and work toward it. "I have a dream..." :licker:

on a side note my vehicle is a civic delsol I have a small turbo with a b18c5 jap. manufactured motor and I have no problems with lag , now DSR (my friends and I) have a CRX with a rather large turbo, I still don't much if any lag from that. Roots and screw SC draw a considerable amount of power away from the smaller motors. not much but some where as the the turbo does not.

I see what you are saying when you say the SC draws power away from the engine, but that shouldn't even be a consideration because it adds power anyway. You are still getting plus power from it, you would just have to add more air to the equation than a turbo to get as much power as a turbo. That is understood. This is why I'm still undecided.

Anyone read that issue of honda tuning with the integra on the cover that says "bolt on 100 hp"? They also had like 36 hot prelude speed parts or something.. Good issue, just wondering if anyone could recall how much that integra was boosted to get 100 HP out of it.?

well, to give you an idea, my buddy with a 1994-1995 gsr gained about 150hp running around 13psi on a stock engine. given he had plenty of fuel mods and stand alone to support it, they are pretty tought when puts under pressure. too bad a little too much nitrous put a hole in the block, it was very fast fow a little street car, I think he was getting solid 12's on 16" nitto drags, and drove it there back 600 miles home. On a side note, I highly recommend not getting the jrsc kit if you live at a high altitude, unless you plan tou have upgraded fuel management, the little pressure regulator doesn't cut it, and i've seen 3 engines blow up with them here, we live at 5600ft, detonation. look into bigger fuel injectors and a hondata, your should be safe.

good thing i'm at sea level... or near there. i plan on doing whatever it takes to make the car reliable. I do want a daily driver as well as a mean little bitch when it comes to the stoplights. i guess it's like everything else (tire wear/traction, highend/lowend), you just have to find a happy medium between the two.

i feel like a twerp for saying i have all these plans, but without dreams, we'd be nowhere. thanks for the insight fellas. :cool:

If you are looking for torque... hrm... lemmi explain what I know about generic.

Turbos = brings the peak torque down about 500 RPM because of the blockage in the exhaust system. Widens the powerband on the car a bit but thats not necessarily good.

SC = bring the peak torque up about 500 RPM. So the same lude with a SC and turbo would have a 1000 RPM difference in the torque peak.

That's all I really know. And it isn't much...

My 2 cents.