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i need a new exhaust system


JStumpalump150
05-29-2007, 08:05 PM
i was rotating my tires the other day and while on the driver side rear tire i noticed that the aftermarket muffler the previous owner had put on was welded on by a monkey with a blow torch but i had not had problems with it so i let it be. but today i noticed my exhaust was a bit louder than i was used to so i had my friend rev the car while i checked out the exhaust and what do ya know...there is a leak at the welds on the muffler.

so what im wondering is what is a good exhaust set up that is not going to break the bank cuz im only 17 and working at mcdonalds for minimum wage. i want something with atleast 2 1/4 inch exhaust with a nice deep sounding muffler and a big tip, but nothing that sounds riced out. i already have a header and want to complete the exhaust setup. this is just what im looking for but im no expert on this stuff so if you have a better setup in mind let me know, i just want to get some ideas and prices in mind.

i will work on getting some pics of the hidious welds i found so you can see exactly how bad this looks, i think you will get a good laugh out of it.:rofl:

DeadBlade89
05-29-2007, 10:03 PM
First, you'll need a high-flow cat and a resonator (preferably 18in glasspack). Between both of those will run you less the $100 depending on from where you order from. Now you need to deside on piping and a muffler. You can probably find a pretty good muffler for about $60-$80. And for the piping, it would be cheapest just to piece one together yourself. All together, it should run you under $300 easily for the whole system.

BTW...please get an oval muffler and not the classic ricer coffee can. :nono:

Z24cavalier
05-30-2007, 12:29 PM
i have an 89' cavalier z24 with the 2.8L V6 and i got a Thresh Glass Pack 25'' and it sounds badass on my car and it was relitively cheap like 30-40 bucks

Lances133
05-30-2007, 12:43 PM
I wouldn't install the system yourself unless YOU are going to weld it. Don't use clamps, clamps suck and you'll most likely have leaks all over the place. As for a system, you're not gonna find a non-raspy muffler with a big tip unless you use a resonator and even then it still might not have the low tone you want. If you want a good system that's not too expensive go with a Dynomax thrush glasspack, the longest one you fit in the system, like Deadblade said 18" should work but if you can go bigger, do it. Highflow cat as stated and a Dynomax Turbo sport muffler with the tip of your choice. You can get then at ww.summitracing.com and the non-stainless steal ones are really cheap. They're also really good mufflers, really close to a straight through one.

JStumpalump150
05-30-2007, 06:36 PM
ok, so im looking through summit racing's web page and i realized i have no clue what im looking for. i need some specs to go by cuz i have no clue what size stuff will fit on my car. it is asking things like inlet size of stuff and outlet size of stuff and i dont know if i want 2 1/4" or 2 1/2", what is a good size? what length of stuff should i get? and what piping do i need?

im a complete noob at this jsyk, im one of those kinds of people that needs very detailed steps to do something for the first time but then after the first time i can basicly do it with my eyes closed, but since this is the first time im doing exhaust i need help.

and im planing on having my uncle do the welds cuz he welds car and space shuttle parts for a living

thanks for the help

DeadBlade89
05-30-2007, 10:23 PM
Well thats good that you have someone that knows how to weld. 2 1/4" should be a good size for piping. So for the inlet and outlet, you want 2 1/4".

Resonator:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=WLK%2D24205&N=700+4294923429+400358+4294922710+4294891681+4294 788249+115&autoview=sku
With it being 31" long, that will save you a little money because you wont need to buy as much piping.

Cat:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MPE%2D91005CA&N=700+4294923429+4294838974+4294867633+4294891681+ 4294788249+4294788248+115&autoview=sku
MagnaFlow highflow cat

Muffler:
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=700+4294923429+4294922711+400358+4 294922710+4294906128+4294891681+4294788249+4294906 122+115+4294906135&Ns=P%5FSRE%5FDisplayPrice%7C0
Basicly, take your choice. Alot to choose from.

Lances133
05-31-2007, 11:38 AM
That resonator might be too big to fit in the length of the system. It's 31" overall. But if it will fit then get that shiz.

Z24cavalier
05-31-2007, 11:50 AM
yeah i dont think you will be able to fit 31 inches inbetween your back bumber and your rear axel and still be able to put a nice tip on the end with out it sticking out half a foot in the back

Derk_eliso
05-31-2007, 01:01 PM
I had a 2 1/2" ebay cat-back with a 4" greddy muffler, sounded pretty good. Costed me like 180 bucks for all, install was like 60.

Now it's 2 1/2" turbo-back straight through no cat to this above system..

You should just wait a few months and get the whole system. Racing header, downpipe, hi-flow cat, no resonator wtf???, muffler

Full exhaust system FTW!!! lol

Derk_eliso
05-31-2007, 01:13 PM
Everyone loves pics...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2362000-2362999/2362121_164_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2362000-2362999/2362121_163_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2362000-2362999/2362121_90_full.jpg

JStumpalump150
05-31-2007, 03:50 PM
another noobish question here, what is the difference between a resonator and muffler?

DeadBlade89
05-31-2007, 04:02 PM
another noobish question here, what is the difference between a resonator and muffler? nothing really besides that a resonator is skinny.


That resonator might be too big to fit in the length of the system. It's 31" overall. ya, i wasnt sure if the 31" would fit, but I figured it was one of the longest ones, so I posted it. i believe theyre next longest one is 25" or something around there. that one will work...

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=WLK%2D24201&N=700+400358+302015+115&autoview=sku

You should just wait a few months and get the whole system. Racing header, downpipe, hi-flow cat, no resonator wtf???, muffler He says he already has a header, and if he doesn't have a resonator, it will sound really raspy.

Full exhaust system FTW!!! lol QFT

I hate all the ricers around here w/ just their coffee can mufflers.

JStumpalump150
05-31-2007, 04:41 PM
so i get either a resonator or muffler, not both? and a high flow cat and then piping?

DeadBlade89
05-31-2007, 04:55 PM
no, you need both. a resonator to go after the cat and then the muffler goes at the very end of the piping.

JStumpalump150
05-31-2007, 05:24 PM
check out this, it is basicly the setup and sound i want but i would get a different muffler cuz this one really dampers the sound, i would get one that is almost strait through
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wAYKo2MEUro

LMK what you think

DeadBlade89
05-31-2007, 05:35 PM
His setup...

Exhaust modifications:
- Pacesetter 4-in-1 header
- Magnaflow HiFlow Cat.
- 25 inch Thrush Magnum Glasspack
- all in 2.25 inch diameter


that is basicly the same setup that i gave you the links to on Summit, and you said you already have a header. So if thats the sound you want, basicly order the items from the links I gave you except for the mufflers.

JStumpalump150
05-31-2007, 06:58 PM
thats why i liked the video, cuz it was basicly what you said and i can trust the help i get on here to be true. so here sometime im going to probly get this setup

Z24cavalier
05-31-2007, 07:48 PM
thats why i liked the video, cuz it was basicly what you said and i can trust the help i get on here to be true. so here sometime im going to probly get this setup

yeah its kinda just trial and error with mufflers and sound. Every car sounds different just gotta find one you like

JStumpalump150
05-31-2007, 08:17 PM
where do i find the round mufflers???

Z24cavalier
05-31-2007, 09:24 PM
where do i find the round mufflers???

i got mine at farm and fleet if you have any of those by you it was like 40 bucks

Derk_eliso
06-01-2007, 12:26 PM
you could acheieve that sound so easily... just take a crow back and bash the hell out of your cat and your muffler and it would sound identical, lmao...

if you get a resonator it won't sound like that. Drop everything behind the header and run straight pipe, fuck the muffler, lol. Then it will sound like that only like 3 times louder lol

Z24cavalier
06-01-2007, 12:48 PM
you could acheieve that sound so easily... just take a crow back and bash the hell out of your cat and your muffler and it would sound identical, lmao...

if you get a resonator it won't sound like that. Drop everything behind the header and run straight pipe, fuck the muffler, lol. Then it will sound like that only like 3 times louder lol

I think it would sound cool......but the cops wouldnt lol

DeadBlade89
06-01-2007, 03:55 PM
where do i find the round mufflers???

you dont want one, trust me. if you really want one, go to the grocrey store. it will be in the coffee isle. lol :lol:

jkjk but if u really want one THAT bad, heres a link...

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ns=P_Rank%7C0&N=700+4294923429+4294922711+4294922710+4294891681+ 4294788249+4294906122+4294906121+115&Ntt=&Ntk=&rsview=sku&RC=100

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