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Blackcrow64
05-14-2007, 01:54 PM
I'm really hoping somebody in here will have an idea of what I should do...


My current Dell had integrated graphics and it just straight up sucked for video editing and games. The only reason I originally went without a graphics card at the time was due to money issues and the fact that I just needed something that would work...


Anyways... I just upgraded my ram and graphics card... I put a Geforce 6200 PCI card in it and finally got everything squared away and working. Well there is only one problem now... Video... Anytime I try to play any video or any video editing program or games, the whole computer freaks out and runs at 100% processor power and it lags so terrible that it almost freezes... I've reinstalled my drivers and such and it still doesn't work. The system is more than powerful enough to handle it, so don't doubt that. P4 with 3.2ghz, 2gig ddr2ram, etc...

I'm not sure what else to try and its killing me here. :(

Please help me, all knowing computer gurus. :icon16:

david-b
05-14-2007, 02:05 PM
Did you fully disble or uninstall the current onboard integrated chipset? Check in BIOS also

Blackcrow64
05-14-2007, 02:12 PM
Did you fully disble or uninstall the current onboard integrated chipset? Check in BIOS also
Yes, I completely disabled it in my hardware settings and the new card is enabled in the BIOS.

spyderturbo007
05-14-2007, 03:35 PM
I know you said that you have reinstalled the drivers, but do you have the latest version?

Also, if you have another open PCI slot, I would swap the card in the other slot. I had this problem with a Fusion 5 HDTV tuner card and swapping slots fixed the problem. The device manager didn't show a conflict, but there was definately something going on because everything was fine after swapping slots.

If that doesn't work, let me know and we can check some other stuff. :)

EDIT -> Almost forgot, what model Dell do you have? Some older motherboards had a jumper that needed to be enabled for the onboard GPU to be ignored, along with the BIOS settings.

Blackcrow64
05-15-2007, 12:28 AM
I know you said that you have reinstalled the drivers, but do you have the latest version?

Also, if you have another open PCI slot, I would swap the card in the other slot. I had this problem with a Fusion 5 HDTV tuner card and swapping slots fixed the problem. The device manager didn't show a conflict, but there was definately something going on because everything was fine after swapping slots.

If that doesn't work, let me know and we can check some other stuff. :)

EDIT -> Almost forgot, what model Dell do you have? Some older motherboards had a jumper that needed to be enabled for the onboard GPU to be ignored, along with the BIOS settings.
Ahhh Well its a Dimension E310 and yes I have the latest drivers for it... I just can't figure out why video makes it crash... Everything else works just fine and faster than ever. Sadly, I only have one freakin PCI slot in this thing... :disappoin

It's not even a year old yet. I got it last September and never had any problems until I started gettin into HD video and it couldn't handle it at all...

If I can't get this within a week I might just sell the whole thing and build a new one from the ground up... Maybe...

BoostedSpyder
05-15-2007, 03:56 AM
is there a forum on the GeForce website? i would snoop around there for some help.

believe it or not, there are guy's out there as passionate about graphics cards as we are about cars...

lol...

spyderturbo007
05-15-2007, 08:03 AM
According to Dell's website, there are 2 PCI slots and 1 PCI-x slot. Is it possible for you to remove the other card and test it out?

Also, apparently there isn't a jumper for turning off the onboard GPU. I noticed you said that the problem is with HD video. Do you encounter this problem with any video, or just HD?

violent31601
05-15-2007, 09:23 AM
is there a forum on the GeForce website? i would snoop around there for some help.

believe it or not, there are guy's out there as passionate about graphics cards as we are about cars...

lol...


that would be me:)

as others have said, it sounds like your On board video card is conflicting with your new one....don't disable it, uninstall it completely. Disabling it doesn't always disable everything!

Mikelb
05-15-2007, 09:37 AM
Shouldn't this be under Problem Diagnosis

:p

PCI :(???

AGP8X FTW

Blackcrow64
05-15-2007, 09:44 AM
According to Dell's website, there are 2 PCI slots and 1 PCI-x slot. Is it possible for you to remove the other card and test it out?

Also, apparently there isn't a jumper for turning off the onboard GPU. I noticed you said that the problem is with HD video. Do you encounter this problem with any video, or just HD?
Well Dell's website is wrong then. I have no PCI-x slots and I only have one open PCI slot...

Before I put the new video card in it was only HD video that would make the computer crash... Now any video makes it crash. :(


as others have said, it sounds like your On board video card is conflicting with your new one....don't disable it, uninstall it completely. Disabling it doesn't always disable everything!
Only thing about that is if I do uninstall it and then if I have to go back to it then I'm screwed... I shoulda been fine just disabling it as I always have in the past with other computers...


This Dell hates me right now. :(

violent31601
05-15-2007, 10:10 AM
Only thing about that is if I do uninstall it and then if I have to go back to it then I'm screwed... I shoulda been fine just disabling it as I always have in the past with other computers...


This Dell hates me right now. :(

you can ALWAYS get the drivers off of dells website

l_eclipse_l
05-15-2007, 10:35 AM
What a junky MB if it only has ONE PCI slot and no AGP or PCI-X. Dell gave you the shaft on that one man, especially if it's only a year old. PCI video cards are almost as worthless as onboard...

Try unloading all video drivers you can, and reinstall the newest one for the card. Also, uninstalling the onboard might not do much since Windows will probably just reinstall it upon reboot anyway. It is possible the card just took a shit on you. Can you try a different PCI card from a friend or something? How old is the card? You may still have a warranty on it depending on the manufacturer.

violent31601
05-15-2007, 10:46 AM
What a junky MB if it only has ONE PCI slot and no AGP or PCI-X. Dell gave you the shaft on that one man, especially if it's only a year old. PCI video cards are almost as worthless as onboard...

Try unloading all video drivers you can, and reinstall the newest one for the card. Also, uninstalling the onboard might not do much since Windows will probably just reinstall it upon reboot anyway. It is possible the card just took a shit on you. Can you try a different PCI card from a friend or something? How old is the card? You may still have a warranty on it depending on the manufacturer.

Dell likes to cut cost anyway they can

Blackcrow64
05-15-2007, 11:26 AM
Can you try a different PCI card from a friend or something? How old is the card? You may still have a warranty on it depending on the manufacturer.
I tried an older card I had from a few years ago but it didn't work worth a shit since it was only 64mb's... :uhoh:


And the new card I just bought at Best Buy brand new 2 days ago... :(


I hate this computer so bad now...

Mikelb
05-15-2007, 11:35 AM
For Future reference... PCI FTL

AGP 8X FTW

PCI_E= ok...:| (PCI_e isn't better than AGP, it's just newer/smaller... so it's blah)...

I run a Radeon 9600SE(IIRC) 256(?) AGP 8X video card, and have yet to have had a problem (3+yr now)

Blackcrow64
05-15-2007, 11:39 AM
For Future reference... PCI FTL

AGP 8X FTW
I know I know... The only reason I got this computer last year was cause I was strapped for cash and needed a computer before I died from lack of internet...


Oh did I mention the airport killed my laptop on my way back from California?

Those bastards... :disappoin

spyderturbo007
05-15-2007, 01:58 PM
How did that happen?

BoostedSpyder
05-15-2007, 04:37 PM
define 'killed'

that sounds a bit extreme, no?

i mean you can't take a lighter or anything, but just the other day i had a book of matches that i dumped into a tray with my keys and such and they didn't bat an eye. i didn't alert them to the oversight, but i don't think they were supposed to do that...

but a laptop? with the word 'kill' you conjure up images of them like pulling out a sledge hammer and making ninja sounds. at least in my head.

aSyLuM32
05-15-2007, 08:46 PM
First of all, is it PCI Express 16x? Or is it PCI... because if its PCI u need to send it back and get a new one... those are really REALLY outdated and a lot of newer drivers like codecs for videos will not work properly

l_eclipse_l
05-15-2007, 10:44 PM
First of all, is it PCI Express 16x? Or is it PCI... because if its PCI u need to send it back and get a new one... those are really REALLY outdated and a lot of newer drivers like codecs for videos will not work properly

We already covered the fact it is regular PCI. And yes that interface is junk for video cards. If you read the whole thread you would see he dosn't have any other slots.

Brian take the card back to Best Buy and exchange it for another. I have a feeling the card just died on you for some reason.

And by the way Mikelb...PCI-X is the way to go, AGP is old and they no longer make new cards for that interface...not to mention what few decent cards they do make for it are much more expensive than their PCI-X counterparts. :)

david-b
05-15-2007, 11:01 PM
What kind of computer doesn't come with an AGP or PCI-X slot? Brian you got shafted bad on that one. You absolutely sure you're looking at the right thing? I've sold computers for years and when I left 9 months ago, no computers came without either of the the 2. Shit, they were only coming with 2-3 PCI slots. Somethings not right here. Not right at all. Are you sure it's a PCI and not a PCI-X? If you bought the wrong card, I believe they do actually fit IIRC, but that may be causing the problem. Can we get a pic of that mother board? This doesn't seem right, son.

l_eclipse_l
05-15-2007, 11:06 PM
What kind of computer doesn't come with an AGP or PCI-X slot? Brian you got shafted bad on that one. You absolutely sure you're looking at the right thing? I've sold computers for years and when I left 9 months ago, no computers came without either of the the 2. Shit, they were only coming with 2-3 PCI slots. Somethings not right here. Not right at all. Are you sure it's a PCI and not a PCI-X? If you bought the wrong card, I believe they do actually fit IIRC, but that may be causing the problem. Can we get a pic of that mother board? This doesn't seem right, son.

A friend of mine has a Dell that's 3-4 years old that only has 2 PCI slots. Nothing else. I about shit a brick when I went to upgrade his video and had to tell him to buy a PCI card...

david-b
05-15-2007, 11:09 PM
See, that's why I don't buy Dells. EVER. I hate Dells with a passion. Everyone I know that has had one has nothing but problems. My school (well, ex-school now) used Dells and Macs, but these were all top end machines. We had dual cores in them before the public had them. But, they get replaced everyother 3 years or so, same with the Macs. So they're not around to see any problems.

Blackcrow64
05-16-2007, 02:15 AM
Uhh, the PCI-x cards definetly do not fit. Trust me, thats what I came home with the first time and I cracked it open and was like wtf!!! So yeah... I'm not sure what the deal is but I've come up with a better solution. I'm taking back my video card and my extra 2gig of ram and just saying the hell with it for now... I have a much better deal coming my way now here very soon for a very nice price. :biggrin:

Thank you for the attempts though guys.

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