cobalt ss supercharge vs. impala Ls
kjames
05-13-2007, 02:23 AM
hey im just curious what u guys think would win in a race because my friends got an impala and he thinks he would waste it even though its all stock
-Jayson-
05-13-2007, 10:01 AM
what year impala SS? and are you stock?
kjames
05-13-2007, 11:18 AM
Im plannin on getting a 06 ss supercharge cobalt and the impala is a 2002 or 2003 Ls its not even an SS its automatic to if that makes a big difference in acceleration??
-Jayson-
05-13-2007, 11:20 AM
cobalt will waste it
Hinshawwrx
05-17-2007, 01:37 AM
If its the LS it probly has the 3400 motor (if I remember correctly) and you will easily win.
If its got a 3800 Series II you'll have a good fight.
And automatics aren't always slow, stop thinking like that, 90% of drag cars are "automatics" and even the Drag Cobalts are too
If its got a 3800 Series II you'll have a good fight.
And automatics aren't always slow, stop thinking like that, 90% of drag cars are "automatics" and even the Drag Cobalts are too
-Jayson-
05-17-2007, 09:44 AM
If its the LS it probly has the 3400 motor (if I remember correctly) and you will easily win.
If its got a 3800 Series II you'll have a good fight.
And automatics aren't always slow, stop thinking like that, 90% of drag cars are "automatics" and even the Drag Cobalts are too
even a 3800 series it would kill, a cobalt is a mid 14 second car stock, the 3800 engine in a impala is a high 15 second car tops.
ANd no automatics are slow in production cars. There is a huge difference between the automatic that GM sells in there cars and the automatic GM uses on the race cars. Its like comparing apples to oranges
If its got a 3800 Series II you'll have a good fight.
And automatics aren't always slow, stop thinking like that, 90% of drag cars are "automatics" and even the Drag Cobalts are too
even a 3800 series it would kill, a cobalt is a mid 14 second car stock, the 3800 engine in a impala is a high 15 second car tops.
ANd no automatics are slow in production cars. There is a huge difference between the automatic that GM sells in there cars and the automatic GM uses on the race cars. Its like comparing apples to oranges
Hinshawwrx
05-18-2007, 01:50 PM
even a 3800 series it would kill, a cobalt is a mid 14 second car stock, the 3800 engine in a impala is a high 15 second car tops.
ANd no automatics are slow in production cars. There is a huge difference between the automatic that GM sells in there cars and the automatic GM uses on the race cars. Its like comparing apples to oranges
Your right, theres is a "huge" difference, its usually called a ratcheting shifter.
And the if the Cobalt is a bad driver, the Impala could beat it. I'm not saying its going to happen all the time, but theres always that chance.
And I can't tell if your trying to say automatics are slow in production cars but thats not always the case. Theres a lot of Automatic cars that are "fast". Especially some GM's.
ANd no automatics are slow in production cars. There is a huge difference between the automatic that GM sells in there cars and the automatic GM uses on the race cars. Its like comparing apples to oranges
Your right, theres is a "huge" difference, its usually called a ratcheting shifter.
And the if the Cobalt is a bad driver, the Impala could beat it. I'm not saying its going to happen all the time, but theres always that chance.
And I can't tell if your trying to say automatics are slow in production cars but thats not always the case. Theres a lot of Automatic cars that are "fast". Especially some GM's.
-Jayson-
05-18-2007, 01:59 PM
yeah some automatics are fast, like the 6 speed automatic in the GTOs. But the crappy 4 speed automatic used with the 3XXX series isnt.
Hinshawwrx
05-18-2007, 03:13 PM
yeah some automatics are fast, like the 6 speed automatic in the GTOs. But the crappy 4 speed automatic used with the 3XXX series isnt.
I can show you a lot of GTP's that are faster than your cobalt will ever be. lol
I can show you a lot of GTP's that are faster than your cobalt will ever be. lol
-Jayson-
05-18-2007, 05:17 PM
I can show you a lot of GTP's that are faster than your cobalt will ever be. lol
yeah you just got dumb. . . we were comparing a stock Cobalt SS Supercharged to a Stock Impala 3800. He asked a question if the automatic transmission in the Impala made a big difference in acceleration. Yes it does, that particular automatic transmission is slower at accelerating than compared if it was a 3800 engine with a manual transmission. While yes the impala never came with a manual trans, but the 3800 in V6 camaro did.
A stock cobalt ss supercharger vs a stock 3800 impala, the cobalt will rape the impala every time.
And a transmission doesnt make a car fast, its the engine. I could care less if there is a faster car on the road with an automatic. The car level you are refering to is the 3800 Supercharged motor. While that motor is a nice motor, a stock Cobalt SS Supercharged vs a 3800 Supercharged the cobalt would still win, despite the fact the 3800 Supercharged has 2 more cylinders, a bigger supercharger, and a 1.8 liter bigger engine. .
So whoopadie do, theres a faster car than mine. . .gaush!!!!!
yeah you just got dumb. . . we were comparing a stock Cobalt SS Supercharged to a Stock Impala 3800. He asked a question if the automatic transmission in the Impala made a big difference in acceleration. Yes it does, that particular automatic transmission is slower at accelerating than compared if it was a 3800 engine with a manual transmission. While yes the impala never came with a manual trans, but the 3800 in V6 camaro did.
A stock cobalt ss supercharger vs a stock 3800 impala, the cobalt will rape the impala every time.
And a transmission doesnt make a car fast, its the engine. I could care less if there is a faster car on the road with an automatic. The car level you are refering to is the 3800 Supercharged motor. While that motor is a nice motor, a stock Cobalt SS Supercharged vs a 3800 Supercharged the cobalt would still win, despite the fact the 3800 Supercharged has 2 more cylinders, a bigger supercharger, and a 1.8 liter bigger engine. .
So whoopadie do, theres a faster car than mine. . .gaush!!!!!
Hinshawwrx
05-21-2007, 12:55 AM
yeah you just got dumb. . . we were comparing a stock Cobalt SS Supercharged to a Stock Impala 3800. He asked a question if the automatic transmission in the Impala made a big difference in acceleration. Yes it does, that particular automatic transmission is slower at accelerating than compared if it was a 3800 engine with a manual transmission. While yes the impala never came with a manual trans, but the 3800 in V6 camaro did.
A stock cobalt ss supercharger vs a stock 3800 impala, the cobalt will rape the impala every time.
And a transmission doesnt make a car fast, its the engine. I could care less if there is a faster car on the road with an automatic. The car level you are refering to is the 3800 Supercharged motor. While that motor is a nice motor, a stock Cobalt SS Supercharged vs a 3800 Supercharged the cobalt would still win, despite the fact the 3800 Supercharged has 2 more cylinders, a bigger supercharger, and a 1.8 liter bigger engine. .
So whoopadie do, theres a faster car than mine. . .gaush!!!!!
No, you didn't read what I posted.
I got off the original topic to prove to you there are fast automatics.
You got dumb because you didn't learn to read everything before talking.
A stock cobalt ss supercharger vs a stock 3800 impala, the cobalt will rape the impala every time.
And a transmission doesnt make a car fast, its the engine. I could care less if there is a faster car on the road with an automatic. The car level you are refering to is the 3800 Supercharged motor. While that motor is a nice motor, a stock Cobalt SS Supercharged vs a 3800 Supercharged the cobalt would still win, despite the fact the 3800 Supercharged has 2 more cylinders, a bigger supercharger, and a 1.8 liter bigger engine. .
So whoopadie do, theres a faster car than mine. . .gaush!!!!!
No, you didn't read what I posted.
I got off the original topic to prove to you there are fast automatics.
You got dumb because you didn't learn to read everything before talking.
-Jayson-
05-21-2007, 11:54 AM
No, you didn't read what I posted.
I got off the original topic to prove to you there are fast automatics.
You got dumb because you didn't learn to read everything before talking.
dude wtf? Just go away and stop trolling the forums
I got off the original topic to prove to you there are fast automatics.
You got dumb because you didn't learn to read everything before talking.
dude wtf? Just go away and stop trolling the forums
Hinshawwrx
05-21-2007, 12:11 PM
dude wtf? Just go away and stop trolling the forums
Trolling? Thats funny. Do you have GM Certification? I sure do. Do I know a lot about the Cobalt and other GM cars? Yup. Did I used to own a Cobalt and mod it and know a lot about its systems and behaviors? Yup.
So how exactly am I trolling? Or are you mad you made an ass of yourself
Trolling? Thats funny. Do you have GM Certification? I sure do. Do I know a lot about the Cobalt and other GM cars? Yup. Did I used to own a Cobalt and mod it and know a lot about its systems and behaviors? Yup.
So how exactly am I trolling? Or are you mad you made an ass of yourself
-Jayson-
05-21-2007, 01:37 PM
GM technicians are some of the dumbest people ive ever met
Hinshawwrx
05-21-2007, 08:25 PM
GM technicians are some of the dumbest people ive ever met
Oh yea? I bet.
Its funny because when you break your car, they fix it. You don't really goto the dealer and see what they do and how they work, you drop your car off and pick it up or hear stories.
Fact is a Trained Technician is very smart. And a lot smarter than you.
I bet your on Cobaltss.net too aren't you? Theres a lot of dumbasses on there, but I bet you think their gods
Oh yea? I bet.
Its funny because when you break your car, they fix it. You don't really goto the dealer and see what they do and how they work, you drop your car off and pick it up or hear stories.
Fact is a Trained Technician is very smart. And a lot smarter than you.
I bet your on Cobaltss.net too aren't you? Theres a lot of dumbasses on there, but I bet you think their gods
-Jayson-
05-21-2007, 11:49 PM
i dont take my car to dealerships, if i have a problem i cant fix, i take it to my family mechanic. Only old people and stupid people take there cars to dealerships to have those lame brains try to figure out whats wrong and over charge you. Seriously do you actually think dealerships are a good place to take your car to get fixed?
When i had my cavalier Z24, i had the dealership put the supercharger on to save my warranty, was supposed to be a 4 hour job, turned into a 6 hour job because the stupid mechanic couldnt read the instructions properly. Then he installed it wrong, he had my lines that were supposed to be reading boost connected to some other vaccum line that didnt even see boost. He said he had to extend the throttle cable that the stock one didnt fit, yeah well not shit it didnt fit, the fucker put the cruise control module in backwards. How fucking hard is it to follow directions? Yeah then before i found the mistake the stupid mechanic made, i was having all kinds of issues with the car, i take it into the dealership. They say its a dirty throttle body plate and cost 150 dollars to clean. So i went home and read the directions for the install, and realised the stupid mechanic couldnt read them properly. I fixed the wrong vacuum/boost lines and all my problems went away.
yes im on cobaltss.net, no 95% of the people on there are retarded. But there are retards everywhere, im talking to one right now. Im done with this thread and you. Its pointless to argue. . .
When i had my cavalier Z24, i had the dealership put the supercharger on to save my warranty, was supposed to be a 4 hour job, turned into a 6 hour job because the stupid mechanic couldnt read the instructions properly. Then he installed it wrong, he had my lines that were supposed to be reading boost connected to some other vaccum line that didnt even see boost. He said he had to extend the throttle cable that the stock one didnt fit, yeah well not shit it didnt fit, the fucker put the cruise control module in backwards. How fucking hard is it to follow directions? Yeah then before i found the mistake the stupid mechanic made, i was having all kinds of issues with the car, i take it into the dealership. They say its a dirty throttle body plate and cost 150 dollars to clean. So i went home and read the directions for the install, and realised the stupid mechanic couldnt read them properly. I fixed the wrong vacuum/boost lines and all my problems went away.
yes im on cobaltss.net, no 95% of the people on there are retarded. But there are retards everywhere, im talking to one right now. Im done with this thread and you. Its pointless to argue. . .
Hinshawwrx
05-22-2007, 01:52 AM
So you trust your family mechanic to fix things when hes not at all formaly trained in the GM systems and will mess things up? You think only old people goto dealerships? Thats funny because everyday I See young people and very smart people goto dealers to get their cars fixed right. I've seen a lot of cars towed in because Jim Bobs Auto Repair messed up.
You realize also that many things your local auto shop can't do that only dealerships can right? Like updating your PCM's and unlocking radios and stuff.
You also obviously don't realize an aftermarket kit like the one your talking about (yes the GMPP kit) don't come with ANY directions. All they come with are the parts and the rest is left to figure out. Theres also not many instrutctions on how to fix cars. The Tech. must diagnose the problem first, then goto Service Information and try and find the fix from there, and if they actually find the fix there it still only tells the Tech. a few things on what to do. Sorry you get the misconseption that being a Trained Technican is easy, because its far from.
And how exactly can you figure I'm a retard? You have no evidence, you simply go off pre conviced notions that all Techs. Are idiots, yet when it comes down to it, their very smart.
And so you know, my tranny is wonderful, and my car is fast, and I Can go through just about any weather. OR does that make me a retard for buying a proven performer over an Economy Car thats going by the wayside after 2009.
Its funny, all Cobalt SS owners are the same, pathetic jackasses.
You realize also that many things your local auto shop can't do that only dealerships can right? Like updating your PCM's and unlocking radios and stuff.
You also obviously don't realize an aftermarket kit like the one your talking about (yes the GMPP kit) don't come with ANY directions. All they come with are the parts and the rest is left to figure out. Theres also not many instrutctions on how to fix cars. The Tech. must diagnose the problem first, then goto Service Information and try and find the fix from there, and if they actually find the fix there it still only tells the Tech. a few things on what to do. Sorry you get the misconseption that being a Trained Technican is easy, because its far from.
And how exactly can you figure I'm a retard? You have no evidence, you simply go off pre conviced notions that all Techs. Are idiots, yet when it comes down to it, their very smart.
And so you know, my tranny is wonderful, and my car is fast, and I Can go through just about any weather. OR does that make me a retard for buying a proven performer over an Economy Car thats going by the wayside after 2009.
Its funny, all Cobalt SS owners are the same, pathetic jackasses.
lilcavikid24
05-26-2007, 08:23 PM
hey easy fellas it depends on who works there you could have an average joe car shop and have one of the smartest techs in the world working there and have some overrated techs at dealerships. yes and hinshawwrx no offense but some dealers are overrated bc they do hire retards sometimes and thats what makes the difference. :screwy: but please go on if you will bc im a tech myself and think what jayson thinks bc i dont work at a dealership lol and know that there some retards that dealerships hire and i wouldnt want him working on my car and overcharging me either and thats all i gotta interject lol. Some of the retarded jackass owners mess up by taking their car to the wrong dealership like take a mazda to a chevy dealership wtf. but neways... :popcorn:
p.s. my opinion of this with a sc cobalt and impala stock 3.8 ss :rofl: :lol: the cobalt walks off the line and walks off to the finish without a worry bc you gotta car lighter than a stock gsr with a better motor and gotta big 3400 pound car that can squeal the tires but cant keep up with thelight fast 4 banger sc ss`:twak: but if its a ss sc impala the cobalt wins by weight difference the end theres my :2cents:
p.s. my opinion of this with a sc cobalt and impala stock 3.8 ss :rofl: :lol: the cobalt walks off the line and walks off to the finish without a worry bc you gotta car lighter than a stock gsr with a better motor and gotta big 3400 pound car that can squeal the tires but cant keep up with thelight fast 4 banger sc ss`:twak: but if its a ss sc impala the cobalt wins by weight difference the end theres my :2cents:
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