New Hemi V8?

They had a pretty cool commercial on that today lol. Anyone see the one where some old car pulls up (Camaro?) next to a brand new Dodge Ram. The Ram is towing around an old Charger and the guy asks if the car has a Hemi. He says yeah, they end up drag racing and the Ram beats the car. Then he says "Oh you meant the Charger, yeah that has a Hemi too" LoL.

345 hp not bad. Anyone have any information on this new Hemi I'm curious to what its all about?

Ya there is a pushrod hemiin the new truck..mostly for NASCRAP reasons and I herd that it might end up in the crosfire...

Anyway I really dont have to much info on the new motor..try going to dodges web page..there probly spouting off all kinds of BS about it..


now if they would only put that motor in a decent cheep RWD car..

A while back they did have a concept for a new Charger, looked pretty cool. Wish they would make something like that again, Dodge could use another car to compete with the Mustang GTs and Camaro Z28's. If you want something fast from Dodge you gotta cough up like $78,000.

Dodge Razor

http://www.motortrend.com/jan02/razor/razor_f.html

wow that razor looks awesome

250hp
RWD
2.4
4 cylinder

$14,500

0-60 in less than 6 seconds...thats amazing for that price

And what does that have to do with tea in china?

I'm talking about this thing.

http://www.car-truck.com/image/chryed/concept/99/charger.gif
http://www.car-truck.com/image/chryed/concept/99/char1400.jpg

That car could of given the Z28's 350 a run for its money if it had that 345hp Hemi.

too bad that charger looks like an expensive mofo. what we need is more cars like the Razor, so the young crowd can actually have a chance to buy something quick and capable of being quicker.

I think I've found a replacement for the 318 in the Dart... very nice indeed.

The Razor is designed to be an entry level sports car, fetching miata money. The Solstice is supposed to be launched in the same market, low buck high power sports cars, with engines that just want to be revved :)

Originally posted by DeViL
They had a pretty cool commercial on that today lol. Anyone see the one where some old car pulls up (Camaro?) next to a brand new Dodge Ram. The Ram is towing around an old Charger and the guy asks if the car has a Hemi. He says yeah, they end up drag racing and the Ram beats the car. Then he says "Oh you meant the Charger, yeah that has a Hemi too" LoL.

345 hp not bad. Anyone have any information on this new Hemi I'm curious to what its all about?


it aint no Camaro... thats a Duster.

a very beat Duster.

Originally posted by DeViL
They had a pretty cool commercial on that today lol. Anyone see the one where some old car pulls up (Camaro?) next to a brand new Dodge Ram. The Ram is towing around an old Charger and the guy asks if the car has a Hemi. He says yeah, they end up drag racing and the Ram beats the car. Then he says "Oh you meant the Charger, yeah that has a Hemi too" LoL.

345 hp not bad. Anyone have any information on this new Hemi I'm curious to what its all about?


it aint no Camaro... thats a Duster.

a very beat Duster.

345 Hp out of a 5.7 liter motor.

Its a 350 Dodge for cryin out loud. No big deal. LS1's make that power.

And the commercial states its a Hemi-Magnum motor. ??? WTF? A Hemi Magnum? If im not mistaken the Hemi is one type of motor, and the Magnum is another. Cant have both. Well whatever. Dont Care.

Originally posted by RedNeck383



it aint no Camaro... thats a Duster.

a very beat Duster.

345 Hp out of a 5.7 liter motor.

Its a 350 Dodge for cryin out loud. No big deal. LS1's make that power.

And the commercial states its a Hemi-Magnum motor. ??? WTF? A Hemi Magnum? If im not mistaken the Hemi is one type of motor, and the Magnum is another. Cant have both. Well whatever. Dont Care.

bullshit you dont care :p

Very poor gas miliage...and all I see of them dosent impress me...the lightning clowns on it

Type 90-degree supercharged Triton™ V8
Displacement: 5,410cc/330cid
Compression ratio: 8.4:1
Horsepower: 380 hp @ 4,750 rpm
Torque: 450 lb-ft @ 3,250 rpm
Base MSRP(including destination and Delivery: $32,490

4,670 lbs. (2,120 kg)

the-very- base hemi model
$23,580.00


5.7-liter
HEMI® Magnum V8
Crank up to 345 horsepower and 375 lb.-ft. of torque at 4,400 rpm with this behemoth engine. (behemoth?....in comaprison to a civic...yes...but umm....)

And no other specs like weight.

Well, overall I am -assuming- from size difference alone the ram is decently heaver, and it has an open rear end, so traction is a no, and the interior is nowhere near as good and the Lightnin probally gets better milage too. Overall, as a work truck it lacks, as a fast truck it lacks, and I think its ugly.

Now the engine I like for a sports car or new muscle car, but not for the truck.

Would be nice if Dodge put it in something like that Charger concept. Dodge doesn't really have anything to compete with GM and Ford as far as affordable fast cars. All they have is the Viper which is too expensive. They have no "Mustang/Camaro class". And all Chrysler is into is little hot rod cars like the Prowler and PT Cruiser, which isn't a bad thing, but they aren't that fast either.

In the new Hot Rod there's an article about the new Hemi and it hints that the Intrepid may be changed to RWD and also that there's a Concept Chrysler 300 Hemi with RWD. They made it sound like D-C is coming out with a new RWD car with V8 power, but that it's still a couple years off.

I read that Chrysler will be making a number of RWD vehicles, to repent for their decades of womanly front wheel drive fullsizers (sorry polygon, had to say it).

I say bring it on, they haven't made a mans car since they stopped the turbo 2 program(well, there was the turbo 3, but those are very rare)...

they haven't made a mans car since they stopped the turbo 2 program(

Yeah they have, I believe it was 1992 when they made a mans car, came in the form of a snake. :devil:

dodge never made a 350 and as far the comparison to the lightning
the dodge would not stand a chance because of the supercharger and more than likly the weight that thing looked heavier than mine and i drive a 72 chevy and i know that lightning would not be as mean as it is without the supercharger dont get me wrong thats the only ford i would own it is wicked fast but lets face facts without the sc it would not be about shit

2000 Cobra R

Type 90° V-8
Bore x stroke 90.2mm x 105.8mm
Displacement: 5.4 liter/330 cid
Compression ratio: 9.60:1
Horsepower: 385 hp @ 6250 rpm
Torque: 385 lbs.-ft. @ 4250 rpm


same engine, no supercharger or other forced induction.

And you wouldn't own a Mustang, Thunderbird, any Cossie, RS200, GT40, Fairlane GT, 289 Falcon, Torino, LTD, Capri, even the FortyNine(I love this thing)?

Do you know that even Hyundai makes a good car? Do you know that every auto maker has made a slew of worthless cars? Making comments like "thats the only ford i would own" can start flame wars ya know...

BTW Devil, I meant a mans car most men could afford... like a Camaro, or a Mustang...

If they made something again, like a new Charger, Challenger, whatever, it shouldn't be that much more expensive then GT's and Z28s....hopefully.

Well technically without the supercharger, wouldn't the lightning just be a 2-door Ford F-150? They didn't really do anything to the engine besides supercharge it right?

Originally posted by Cbass
I read that Chrysler will be making a number of RWD vehicles, to repent for their decades of womanly front wheel drive fullsizers (sorry polygon, had to say it).

I say bring it on, they haven't made a mans car since they stopped the turbo 2 program(well, there was the turbo 3, but those are very rare)...

Ahahaha, that was good. Yeah, I only care for the turbo FWD Mopars, I will say that they need some real sports cars with RWD. Bring back that Charger R/T concept and drop in that Hemi let it loose and hell, make it DOHC, but then it would probably run with the Viper.

As for the Lightning Vs. the new Hemi, lets drop a turbo in the Hemi and it will tear the Lightning a new asshole. For a n/a engine in a truck that is damn high numbers, that is more power than the 8.1L from Chevy. If they put it in a car I can tell you that it will be a hell of a lot more powerful than it is now. The V10s in the RAMs aren't the same as the Viper engine, so think about that.

The new Hemi is awesome and it gets better gas mileage than the 360ci engine it replaces.

Just read the new issue of Hot Rod and you will learn all you need to know about this version of the Hemi, there are also rumors of a 383 Hemi as well, but I know they are going to put it in the cars, and the Jeeps. In fact there is a Jeep that they are working on that will be a sport version. RWD, six speed manual from the Viper, the new 345ci Hemi, can we say FREAKING FAST? Bye bye Lightning. If the 360 could move the Jeep from 0-60 in 6.0 flat then the Hemi with 100 more horses should be able to rocket it there in low 5s. Porsche better say they have the fastest SUV as much as they can, because not for long.

As for the NASCAR comment, the new Hemi has nothing to do with NASCAR. The Hemi was banned in the 70s from NASCAR and is still not allowed to be used.

It is just a great time to be a Mopar fan.

I was just checking out the concept vehicles on the Dodge web site, and I came across this Bad Boy (http://www.dodge.com/inside/concept_vehicles/super_8_hemi.html)

I know, a concept vehicle is a concept vehicle, but it's still undeniably cool :smoker2:

Originally posted by Polygon


As for the Lightning Vs. the new Hemi, lets drop a turbo in the Hemi and it will tear the Lightning a new asshole.

Or if you drop the Cobra R engine in, then supercharge it to be fair, lets see who comes out on top? :D

This engine seems like a waste for the truck...if it was for a high performance truck, and the truck was lighter yah, something like the lightning then I would respect it more

But its getting bad gas milage, so not much point as a work truck, might as well get a ford or chevy

As for speed, other high performance trucks clown on it, so whats the point there?

I think its a good engine, but it could have been placed in better vehicles.

Well, if you want to compare compact trucks/SUVs, imagine the 5.4 engine in a Ranger, or an Explorer.

I just want a 1979 F150 Flareside with a 400M... lower it nicely, a little custom body work, and build that 400M for 400hp/500lbft.

Originally posted by Cbass
And you wouldn't own a Mustang, Thunderbird, any Cossie, RS200, GT40, Fairlane GT, 289 Falcon, Torino, LTD, Capri, even the FortyNine(I love this thing)?

Do you know that even Hyundai makes a good car? Do you know that every auto maker has made a slew of worthless cars? Making comments like "thats the only ford i would own" can start flame wars ya know...

BTW Devil, I meant a mans car most men could afford... like a Camaro, or a Mustang...

ok iforgot about the old gt40 i would own 1 of those or the gt 350 and 500 but thats it those are the only 2 mustangs i would own and i dont like the looks of the new one and lets face it its performance is way under par

Originally posted by TerminalVelocity


Or if you drop the Cobra R engine in, then supercharge it to be fair, lets see who comes out on top? :D

This engine seems like a waste for the truck...if it was for a high performance truck, and the truck was lighter yah, something like the lightning then I would respect it more

But its getting bad gas milage, so not much point as a work truck, might as well get a ford or chevy

As for speed, other high performance trucks clown on it, so whats the point there?

I think its a good engine, but it could have been placed in better vehicles.

Well you are comparing two different trucks, the Lightning which has no practical use being a sports truck. Let’s see you take the damn thing off road or seriously pull anything. You are comparing it to a practical conventional truck meant for pulling and other truck uses. They aren't really comparable. The new Hemi Rams are more powerful than other practical conventional trucks such as the F150, 250, and 350 with conventional gas engines, same goes for Chevy. Other conventional trucks don't clown on it, like I said; the new Hemi has more power than Chevy’s 8.1L V8. Why don't we compare sport truck to sport truck, the Lightning vs. the SRT-10 RAM, talk about some clowning? As for gas mileage, is it just me or can people find nothing else about the Hemi to bitch about besides this? I mean hell, it gets better gas mileage than the 360ci engine that it replaced, and I didn't hear anyone bitch about it. I don’t see what you are basing your opinion off of man, they are perfect for trucks. The trucks they are in aren’t meant to be high performance, they are work trucks, and I don’t see how the Hemi fails there. Also you were comparing a n/a engine to an engine with f/i. Like I said, put the turbo on the Hemi and it will kill the Lightning. Then you say put the Cobra engine in to be fair. How would that be fair? It was fair before if you just add the turbo to the Hemi. The Cobra engine is tuned for performance while the Hemi in the trucks is not. Compare the Cobra engine to the Hemi that they put in the cars, in any case it will still be more powerful.

i complain about the gas milege on the new Ram 1500's with the 4.7 liter motor. the Dealer sticker advertised 14city/17hwy. I thought that was rediculous.


I dont know if the 1500 comes with the Hemi 5.7. But i know the 2500 and 3500 do. So i wont complain about it cause it serves a purpose as a load hauler.

It doesn't come in the 1500, which was probably the biggest fuckup Chrysler has made in years. The market is for shortbox fullsizers, not 1 ton trucks.

Anyhow, a fair comparison would be the 6.8 liter triton... Slightly less hp, a whole lot more torque, and a lot more tuning potential. The Triiton V10 has more potential than it knows what to do with, and I'm surprised we haven't seen many 500hp Tritons around.

V10, isn't that used in one of the bigger size trucks? No one really buys those except companies and they aren't interested in making 500 hp engines so I doubt you would see a ton around.

Originally posted by Cbass
It doesn't come in the 1500, which was probably the biggest fuckup Chrysler has made in years. The market is for shortbox fullsizers, not 1 ton trucks.

Anyhow, a fair comparison would be the 6.8 liter triton... Slightly less hp, a whole lot more torque, and a lot more tuning potential. The Triiton V10 has more potential than it knows what to do with, and I'm surprised we haven't seen many 500hp Tritons around.

The problem is that Chrysler can't keep up with production on the Hemi, they will be putting the Hemi in the 1500s early next year, then in the Jeeps, then in some cars. It is just a matter that they don't have enough engines to go around, so it will be in the 1500s very soon.