FINALLY! A page for shadows!


demo_deven
05-06-2007, 09:29 PM
Tok them long enough lol :grinyes:

john51md
05-07-2007, 03:29 AM
Tok them long enough lol :grinyes:

yea, now if anyone ever looks at it.. I just got a 94 ES with a 3.0 great shape but we always have questions to ask.

veedubmechanic
05-10-2007, 09:39 PM
Your welcome =) :grinyes:

vamc
05-10-2007, 10:41 PM
Had a 93 duster a while back with the 3.0L. green with the gold duster. Fast car. the good old days.lol

demo_deven
05-11-2007, 08:29 PM
Now if only there was one for Sprits...

john51md
05-11-2007, 10:11 PM
Had a 93 duster a while back with the 3.0L. green with the gold duster. Fast car. the good old days.lol

My 94 is dark green, but all the gold emblems are taken off, hood and all, also the gold in the wheels is gone. Paint looks like new except for a couple minor parking lot dings, interior is near perfect.
2 door
3.0 auto OD
power seats, belts, mirrors.
sunroof, AC, tach, driving lamps
power windows and locks
AM FM CD (pioneer deck and sony speakers)
crusie, air bags
no rust anyplace.
new struts and shocks and alignment
soon new 60 series tires and nicer wheels.
I think it will make a pretty nice car for what it is class wise.
Plenty of power, not bad on fuel. handles pretty nice.

Only thing is it squats a lot in the rear wehn you pull out, easy or hard, it still squats more than any other car i have had, has new shocks on rear, maybe rear springs are weak, unless its the nature of the beast, i dunno.

The only thing i am going to do is maybe the larger throttle body, better plugs and wires and cap, a better coil. and a 2.25 inch exaust and a more free flow muffler, but thast down the road a ways.
No it isnt going to be a ricer, no big muffler. Just better flowing.

PWMAN
05-13-2007, 09:07 PM
You guys are your mitsubishi 6cylinders, sheesh. Get a turbo. LOL J/K. I just picked up myself an 88' turbo 5 speed shadow ES. Gonna make it my drag car, 2.5L pushing about 350 WHP and I'm gonna lighten the car no carpet/backseat/AC/radio/speakers/etc. Should be an easy 11.5 second car even on drag radials since I ran 12.36's in my daytona with DR's which weighs a good 400 pounds more than the shadow and has 50 HP less than the shadow will.

john51md
05-14-2007, 06:46 AM
You guys are your mitsubishi 6cylinders, sheesh. Get a turbo. LOL J/K. I just picked up myself an 88' turbo 5 speed shadow ES. Gonna make it my drag car, 2.5L pushing about 350 WHP and I'm gonna lighten the car no carpet/backseat/AC/radio/speakers/etc. Should be an easy 11.5 second car even on drag radials since I ran 12.36's in my daytona with DR's which weighs a good 400 pounds more than the shadow and has 50 HP less than the shadow will.

To each his own, not making a drag strip car here, its a daily driver. I too have driven Daytona turbo 5 speeds. Fast but i dont like them, to high strung, low gear to high ratio (for daily driver) and (for me) least the ones i have driven. Also tired of shifting gears. Unless its a old muscle car. Also tired of 4 bangers, overhead cams, etc. No i am not saying they are all bad, they just arent my cup o joe. If it wasnt for price of fuel now, i would be driving a 4 speed Chevy with a 454, and not a car, but a 4x4 truck. Now days a 'car' is what i have to drive.
And i know there are cars that get better mileage than this shadow, but if money wasnt a consideration, i sure wouldnt have a Shadow in the first place. I drive 500 miles a week. Oh i tried a car that got around 40 odd mpg once, it lasted a few months till the engine needed more money than i cared to put into it, plus a tranny 5 speed that started grinding lower gears .total junk... yea it was a 96 Metro 4 dr 4 cyl. It now resembles a black "lump" sitting behind my garage.
Also put 250,000 on a 91 Lumina, its falling apart now. Time for it to join the Metro. I got this Shadow in great condition for next to nothing, needing hardly anything. I am one who cares less what is is, as long as it runs and is reliable and is good shape, and isnt expensive. I havent had a car payment since 1996, and dont plan to start again.
Not dissing what you want to do with yours, hope you have good luck with it, mainly just stating how i look at cars.And what i want from them, and what i dont like.
I grew up on huge V8's and carbs. 4x4 trucks and rear drive cars.
The type that if you bought it for 100.00 it ran forever but the body rusted away. Now days it seems the body lasts forever, and the mechanical parts are crap.
BTW, talking about larger throttle body because from what all i have read, it can improve mileage a little, as the little better exaust, thats all i am after.

vamc
05-14-2007, 12:58 PM
I had a 86 dodge daytona turbo Z. White. auto. racing cam,racing ecu, welded waste gate shut, 2'' stableizer bar, 15.5 foot lbs of boost. Had to gor rid of it, custong to much to keep.

demo_deven
05-15-2007, 12:41 PM
Last spring, I had a 93 Shadow ES 2 door. 3.0L V6, rims, TOTALLY custom interior, black wiht gold striping, it was fast as hell just trying to get an emissions test done on it was dreadful! I'll find some pics nd post them on here. I ended up sellin it off for parts:( Was very sad to see it go, but I picked me up a nice /85 Lebaron convertable, 2.2L Turbo, more on that later;)

PWMAN
05-15-2007, 02:28 PM
To each his own, not making a drag strip car here, its a daily driver. I too have driven Daytona turbo 5 speeds. Fast but i dont like them, to high strung, low gear to high ratio (for daily driver) and (for me) least the ones i have driven. Also tired of shifting gears. Unless its a old muscle car. Also tired of 4 bangers, overhead cams, etc. No i am not saying they are all bad, they just arent my cup o joe. .

What do you mean high strung?
You do know that the V6's have the exact same trannies as the 4 cylinders right? Same automatic, and the manual is an A543 which is the same gearing as the A523 (the 4 cyl trans) with the ONLY difference being the bellhousing.

I also grew up on V8's, heck my first car had a 440 :naughty: But with the rising cost of fuel, I said hey I can get the same power out of a turbo 4 cylinder than I can with a V8 and get 30 MPG at the same time! You may say that I'm not making the same power, but yeah I sure am. The engine in my daytona makes almost exactly the same power at the crank as a 383 magnum in horsepower AND torque. And with the 2.5L in the shadow they average about 40-50 more ftlbs at a given horsepower than a 2.2. So at 350 WHP I should be pushing over 425 ft/lbs to the wheels with ease.

KManiac
05-15-2007, 05:01 PM
Wow, finally a forum for Shadows! I guess I haven't scrolled down this far in the last couple of weeks!

I have owned my 1991 Shadow ES Turbo Convertible for over 14 years. It is still a great car! I an now approaching 117,000 miles. The 2.5L Turbo was rated at 152 HP from the factory compared to 140 HP for the later 3.0L. I have not driven a 3.0L Shadow, but I expect the performance is close to the 2.5L Turbo. My Shadow is equipped with the automatic.

I once had a 1991 Shadow Highline with 2.2L and automatic. That car was a slug, especially with the A/C on. I used to call the A/C switch the boost button in that car. Turn off the A/C and get a boost of power. When driving this car to Las Vegas once (northbound I-15) I lost speed in high gear with the cruise control set while climbing the grade. But, it would maintain 70 mph on the grade, no problem, if I shifted it into second gear (manual 2). That thing was not geared for performance.

I'll be sure to post my future issues as they arise and help those of you in need of my experience.

john51md
05-17-2007, 07:00 AM
What do you mean high strung?
You do know that the V6's have the exact same trannies as the 4 cylinders right? Same automatic, and the manual is an A543 which is the same gearing as the A523 (the 4 cyl trans) with the ONLY difference being the bellhousing.

I also grew up on V8's, heck my first car had a 440 :naughty: But with the rising cost of fuel, I said hey I can get the same power out of a turbo 4 cylinder than I can with a V8 and get 30 MPG at the same time! You may say that I'm not making the same power, but yeah I sure am. The engine in my daytona makes almost exactly the same power at the crank as a 383 magnum in horsepower AND torque. And with the 2.5L in the shadow they average about 40-50 more ftlbs at a given horsepower than a 2.2. So at 350 WHP I should be pushing over 425 ft/lbs to the wheels with ease.

Well, not trying to start a war, and maybe "high strung" isnt the exact proper term, but you should know what i mean if you were raised on V8's
too.
What i meant was a 4 cyl is more noisey than it is a nice rumble. It has to rev way higher (hugh strung)
And in general, not the few well known reliable 4 cyl. engines, but in general, they have had lots more problems than V8's ever did from being put together from crappy parts and bad designs just to get them to show rooms than V8's did.Mainly talking the econo boxes.
I am not getting into hp ratings, or torque ratings because again, to each his own and whatever works for the individual. Me? id rather have something the size of the Shadow, all wheel drive, powered by a 60's hp Chevy 283 adapted to FI. LOL
All depends on what you are after in a car, no one is right or wrong.
Yes i saw a GLH turbo Omni beat a ZO Vette in the quarter, of course the GLH was modded quite a lot. I doubt was street legal due to the mods, tires, etc. So really what good was it except bragging rights..
As for explaning about the trannies, well being from "the old school" i like a low gear in the manual that is very low, one you can ceep with, not so with the 5 speed in the 4 cyl. Daytona i drove, of course some of that was the engine needing to rev more, but for example, the 5 speed in the 96 Metro i had was very low, on steep hills in low gear, engine braking only, it would only make abput 12 mph downhill. Love that when there is snow on the road.of course it only made 12 mph uphill too :iceslolan
Also makes a lot of difference on what terrain you drive in. I live in the mountains and a low first gear is really nice.
And the little 1.3 L engine needed that low gear to pull out on hills easily.
The Daytona was just geared to high in low gear for my taste (my taste)
If you wasnt careful, trying to pull out quick, all you got was wheel spin.
Its just hard to describe i guess about what i mean.
Anyway, auto trannies arent even a concern because you can pull out the same with those in a 4 cyl or a V6. And i never drove a manual Daytona, or Shadow with a V6 and a 5 speed, just a 4 cyl turbo.So i cannot say how they are at all with a V6.
Now on the flip side, the Lumina 2.5 Iron Duke 4 cyl i had, with a auto 3 speed, held at engine braking speed in low gear, down hill, way slower than my daughters Corsica with a 3.1 V6 and same auto tranny.
I have tried to find out if trannys were geared different in low gear but never did find out, or was it the engine difference? i dunno. Both were 91 models.

PWMAN
05-17-2007, 03:00 PM
Well, not trying to start a war, and maybe "high strung" isnt the exact proper term, but you should know what i mean if you were raised on V8's
too.
What i meant was a 4 cyl is more noisey than it is a nice rumble. It has to rev way higher (hugh strung)
And in general, not the few well known reliable 4 cyl. engines, but in general, they have had lots more problems than V8's ever did from being put together from crappy parts and bad designs just to get them to show rooms than V8's did.Mainly talking the econo boxes.
I am not getting into hp ratings, or torque ratings because again, to each his own and whatever works for the individual. Me? id rather have something the size of the Shadow, all wheel drive, powered by a 60's hp Chevy 283 adapted to FI. LOL
All depends on what you are after in a car, no one is right or wrong.
Yes i saw a GLH turbo Omni beat a ZO Vette in the quarter, of course the GLH was modded quite a lot. I doubt was street legal due to the mods, tires, etc. So really what good was it except bragging rights..
.

I understand about the rumble of the V8, thats the only thing I miss. That and rear wheel drive. But I deal with it. But the chrysler 2.2/2.5 is unlike any other 4 cylinder really. I have a nice lopey cam going in my shadow, when they have a cam and 3'' exhuast these cars sound NOTHING like fart cannon honda's or any other 4 cylinder. I've actually had people ask me how I swapped a V8 in my daytona because it sounds like it at certain RPM's. These engines don't like revving high, infact taking it to 6500 is way past topping out a 2.5L. The 2.5 has over a 4'' stroke, it doesn't really like over 6K. Now I have a 2.2 in my daytona, about 6700 is topped out. Not really revving high and thats where most performance V8's rev too. And there's no shortage of low end torque, my peak torque is made at 3200 RPM not 4800 RPM like most honda's. I'm not trying to argue but if your perfect setup is a 283 those things like to rev over 7K RPM and make NO low end power.
The guy with the GLH couldn't drive or is setup was better looking than it was performance wise. I can take Z06 vettes in my daytona on drag radials let alone slicks, and my daytona weighs 400 pounds more than an omni GLH.

PWMAN
05-17-2007, 03:13 PM
Oh and on the gearing. I live in mountains too, I never really had a problem because my car makes so much low end torque. But, if you really want scrappier gearing you can find a certain transmission in 89-90 has the 3:85 gearing instead of the 3:50 gearing. So your gears would be 10% lowing gearing, better for easier take-offs and acceleration. Speaking of acceleration, this is where traction is a concern for FWD cars. Here's a few trick I did. Re-locate the battery over to the passenger side, shim the front sway bar. Now you will atleast have both front tires spinning instead of 1 tire fires. Next we need to eliminate the rear end squat on take-off, thats nothing a set of gabriel hi-jacker air shocks can't take care of! I get full traction in SECOND gear using these tricks, and with 300 HP to the wheels in a FWD thats pretty darn impressive. I've taken power stroke pickups and cobra mustangs OFF THE LINE before, short shift first at 5K RPM and then mash second, SEEYA!

john51md
05-19-2007, 07:26 AM
Oh and on the gearing. I live in mountains too, I never really had a problem because my car makes so much low end torque. But, if you really want scrappier gearing you can find a certain transmission in 89-90 has the 3:85 gearing instead of the 3:50 gearing. So your gears would be 10% lowing gearing, better for easier take-offs and acceleration. Speaking of acceleration, this is where traction is a concern for FWD cars. Here's a few trick I did. Re-locate the battery over to the passenger side, shim the front sway bar. Now you will atleast have both front tires spinning instead of 1 tire fires. Next we need to eliminate the rear end squat on take-off, thats nothing a set of gabriel hi-jacker air shocks can't take care of! I get full traction in SECOND gear using these tricks, and with 300 HP to the wheels in a FWD thats pretty darn impressive. I've taken power stroke pickups and cobra mustangs OFF THE LINE before, short shift first at 5K RPM and then mash second, SEEYA! I think we are just after two different things . I like a powerful car, but to me 'enough power' is to pass on the highway, hold speeds on interstate hills, run around in these mountains without pedal to the floor for normal driving, all that type thing. I have no concern at all about racing or strip times, etc.
As you said, a lower ratio would be nice if i had a manual, but the auto tranny is fine in the 3.0 for me.
And i hate the squat in rear of this Shadow, no other FWD i have had did it like this thing does, maybe it is weak springs, i dunno. But then again they ride rough enough as is with out being rock hard from air shocks.
I thought about a 4 corner set of 1" lowering springs from Ebach (sp) but when you ask anyone who used them , the answer you get you cant put much store in because each persons idea of what is "ok" and "not hard" or "too hard" is all individual tastes. And vary from car to car a lot. Guess all is left is to try them and see.
Gas rear shocks made on diff. at all. I didnt expect it too do wonders,other than possibly a tiny bit, but i cant feel any difference at all. SO maybe they are weak. This car was a town car and never abused at all, never carried any loads. Maybe just crappy springs to begin with?
Wonder..... are there any daytona rear springs that will fit? be any better? I do know of a junked mid 80's Daytona and a Lazer sitting near by.
No idea if springs are interchangable. Any clue?

PWMAN
05-23-2007, 02:52 PM
The springs are interchangeable. But you must find springs from a 87-88 shelby Z daytona, not a regular daytona they will be the same as you have now. I'm not sure if the 89's are the same or not.
I didn't have much ride difference with the air shocks actually, barely noticed.

john51md
05-24-2007, 06:11 AM
The springs are interchangeable. But you must find springs from a 87-88 shelby Z daytona, not a regular daytona they will be the same as you have now. I'm not sure if the 89's are the same or not.
I didn't have much ride difference with the air shocks actually, barely noticed.

A Shelby Z eh? be lots easier to get new aftermarket than locate those i bet.
Would think a heavier Daytona would have a bit more spring under the rear, guess not.
i have used air shocks on a lot of cars over time, most RWD, i imagine you didnt load the air bags on yours like i did , and we all did back then to get a high rear end lift. I know they get pretty hard when used for lift, maybe just load the bags just short of any lift would work, sorta expensive when you wouldnt be sure ride would still be to your liking. As is i am not in love with the Shadow ride from factory, i am more used to large car ride, like my Caprice/lumina were. I know i cant expect that from a small car so no worries there.I just dont want to make it more harsh then is, which is going to be hard to do and get rid of the squat.
Why do these things squat so much anyway? the 5 speed Metro didnt, the Z24 i had didnt, but then again, maybe they are just extreamly weak, hard to know when its the only Shadow you ever messed with.

PWMAN
05-25-2007, 06:03 AM
Shelby Z's are decently common. Whats rare is finding the 5 speed intercooled shelby Z. Most were automatic which got the T1 engine, not nearly as good. But, doesn't matter auto or manual tranny for the rear springs, they were the same.
I didn't have air bags, I had air shocks. I put about 60 PSI in them, only raised the rear about an inch. The ride was not compromised much at all. Like I said my first car that had the 440 was a Chrysler Newport, so I am also used to land yacht smooth sailing cars myself. The daytona ran very smooth and is a pleasure to drive on the highway. I haven't driven my shadow yet, still fixing it up.

john51md
05-26-2007, 06:20 AM
Shelby Z's are decently common. Whats rare is finding the 5 speed intercooled shelby Z. Most were automatic which got the T1 engine, not nearly as good. But, doesn't matter auto or manual tranny for the rear springs, they were the same.
I didn't have air bags, I had air shocks. I put about 60 PSI in them, only raised the rear about an inch. The ride was not compromised much at all. Like I said my first car that had the 440 was a Chrysler Newport, so I am also used to land yacht smooth sailing cars myself. The daytona ran very smooth and is a pleasure to drive on the highway. I haven't driven my shadow yet, still fixing it up.

Yes i know, wehn i said air bags, i meant the air bags on air shocks that are hidden in the upper half.
I spose i could try them, adding just a little air at a time to see if the squat lessens, and ride is still allright.
My sorta first cars were 67/68 Plymouth Furys, had 2 fury II's and a fury III 383's . And a 65 Chevy Wagon with a 396, along the way Galaxies and Caprices, etc. Then got into Broncos, Ford and Chevy full size 4x4's and all that. With probably 50 diff. autos and trucks in between i dont care to remember. LOL
I do care to remember my pristene 69 Mustang, my 70 Charger that i still wish i had kept.
Since you know Daytona's, is the one my cousin found very rare? its a 85 i think, and has all electric seats and everything, has all digital dash, it is a 4 cyl turbo 5 speed, i never really looked at it myself, but he says seats are leather.

PWMAN
06-03-2007, 02:41 PM
Yes i know, wehn i said air bags, i meant the air bags on air shocks that are hidden in the upper half.
I spose i could try them, adding just a little air at a time to see if the squat lessens, and ride is still allright.
My sorta first cars were 67/68 Plymouth Furys, had 2 fury II's and a fury III 383's . And a 65 Chevy Wagon with a 396, along the way Galaxies and Caprices, etc. Then got into Broncos, Ford and Chevy full size 4x4's and all that. With probably 50 diff. autos and trucks in between i dont care to remember. LOL
I do care to remember my pristene 69 Mustang, my 70 Charger that i still wish i had kept.
Since you know Daytona's, is the one my cousin found very rare? its a 85 i think, and has all electric seats and everything, has all digital dash, it is a 4 cyl turbo 5 speed, i never really looked at it myself, but he says seats are leather.
Oh OK, but there aren't any ''bags'' in the air shocks. They are basically a cylinder, similar to a hydraulic cylinder but with air. Air bags go in between the springs and pump up.
I couldn't afford the high cost of gas with the 440 I got about 6-12 MPG depending on how I drove. My daytona wouldn't get worse than 21 no matter how much I beat on it and was a lot faster than the newport. I also got 27 MPG highway, not bad for 52 lb injectors in a heavy car for a four banger.
Well your cousins daytona isn't a rare build, they made plenty fully loaded. The only options mine didn't have was leather and automatic, OK well it didn't have T-Tops but it did have a sunroof. It did have digital dash and power everything, even the rear wiper with sprayer which is extremely rare. But the rare part is finding them in good shape this day in age, almost none left. So the answer is yes and no! My daytona didn't have a spot of rust on it when I got it, unfortunitely I didn't have a garage to put it in and since it was my daily driver it did get driven in the snow. And in PA they put plenty of salt down. It only had slight surface rust on it when it left me, the car got totaled by some guy that pulled out from a stop sign and I T-boned them. I miss that car, but all said and done, it was probably for the better because I might have killed myself in it eventually. Ever done 143 MPH in a 45 zone??? LOL

john51md
06-04-2007, 06:15 AM
Oh OK, but there aren't any ''bags'' in the air shocks. They are basically a cylinder, similar to a hydraulic cylinder but with air. Air bags go in between the springs and pump up.
I couldn't afford the high cost of gas with the 440 I got about 6-12 MPG depending on how I drove. My daytona wouldn't get worse than 21 no matter how much I beat on it and was a lot faster than the newport. I also got 27 MPG highway, not bad for 52 lb injectors in a heavy car for a four banger.
Well your cousins daytona isn't a rare build, they made plenty fully loaded. The only options mine didn't have was leather and automatic, OK well it didn't have T-Tops but it did have a sunroof. It did have digital dash and power everything, even the rear wiper with sprayer which is extremely rare. But the rare part is finding them in good shape this day in age, almost none left. So the answer is yes and no! My daytona didn't have a spot of rust on it when I got it, unfortunitely I didn't have a garage to put it in and since it was my daily driver it did get driven in the snow. And in PA they put plenty of salt down. It only had slight surface rust on it when it left me, the car got totaled by some guy that pulled out from a stop sign and I T-boned them. I miss that car, but all said and done, it was probably for the better because I might have killed myself in it eventually. Ever done 143 MPH in a 45 zone??? LOL

Well, its all the same to me, if its rubber and has air in it, its a bag :lol:
And i too know about salt, i am in Maryland, only about 15 minutes from the western Pa. state line. Live out in the country on a county road, so i see plenty of salt, tho sometimes on this mountain i wish i saw more !
I have yet to tag my Shadow, sitting in the garage. Just finished a total upholestry shampoo because the guy that had it smoked like a diesel, and i dont think he ever wound a window down. Smells pretty nice now after shampoo and odor killer spray.
Trying to decide what tires to order, someone put 195x70's on it, to small.
Been looking at either 205x60's or 215x60's I tried a set of Z24 wheels and 215x60's on it and no problems rubbing or anything, they do look better but just wondering if they will hurt mileage, or improve it because they turn less revs per mile, or make any difference at all. The 215's would be about 8 lbs heavier per tire than the 205's i am looking at.
Decided to stay for now with the 14's wheels till there is more money available. It has the curved flat spoke looking alumium wheels on it, used to have gold in the recesses, i polished one wheel and painted the recesses flat black, looks a lot better but also a lot of work.
I could use the Z24 wheels, they look 'not bad' they would be different for sure. I hate cars that all look alike. Taking the exaust off from cat back and replacing almost worn thru pipes, for now just replacment 2" inch all the way, and a moderate quiet turbo dual tip muffler. Having my local muffler shop bend me 2 muffer tip pipes so they exit straight out from under bumper instead of those slash cut angled type the car came with, hate the look of those.
Right now not getting much done, daughter is buying a modular home, a used one on 3 acres of ground, and you know how kids are when it comes to fixing up, " dad? will you fix this, and this, and this......" It never ends.

blkdragon2169
06-23-2007, 04:59 PM
This is good to have... no more searching for shadow questions anymore....

Iv had mine for about a two years now prior to my dad having it first it since 1998:

Its a 1991 Dodge Shadow ES 2.5L Turbo 4 speed automatic tranny w/ 70,000 original miles.

Everything is stock except i went from seats for a 2 door to seats from a 4 door ( just the front buckets). The exuast was changed from the old stock crap to a new stainless steel round muffler 2.5" inlet 4.5" outlet. Had a donut spare in the trunk in which i changed to a full size spare. the hood was damaged from a tree limb so i went and got a stock hood for it w/o the bump, now i have clearence issues ( not a problem have another hood for a four door cutting the bump off and cutting a hole in mine the welding the bump on there). I have another spoiler which i am going to sell, the rear seats( from 4 door) and old front seats ( from 2 door) are going to be sold soon along with the power seat mechanic thing for the seat will be up for sale... much more things i dont need no more, except for the extra 2.5L engine and turbo i got.

Its a good little car once i get the tranny fixed on it. Will be installing a custom sterio in it, and maybe sprint springs or eibachs will go in, not sure which yet..... Ill post pics if anyone is interested in seeing the beast..

Thanks once again Mods for making a place for the shadow.

kevin

CVFD1308
07-17-2007, 10:53 AM
I had one for 2 years, then had to get rid of it about a year ago. When I first got it it had 28000 miles on it, check out the web page from when it was new here http://www.cardomain.com/ride/427589. After 6 months, my fiance at the time plowed a guy in a pickup that ran a stop sign, but he took off, so no insurance money to fix it from him and my ins. co only gave us $400. The car was totalled. But, with my tool set and my handy dandy welder and some duct tape, I was able to get the car completely street legal again. Mind you, it looked like absolute ass, but it ran. I performed nothing but basic maintenance from then on out, so the car began to become even more ratty looking. I drove it for another 2 years until I was 200 miles away from home and the transmission finally quit as i sit in the middle of a busy intersection on rt. 19. It finally caught a gear... 2nd... and i was able to drive the 6 hour trip home, one that usually takes 2.

CVFD1308
07-17-2007, 11:08 AM
I had one for 2 years, then had to get rid of it about a year ago. When I first got it it had 28000 miles on it, check out the web page from when it was new here http://www.cardomain.com/ride/427589. After 6 months, my fiance at the time plowed a guy in a pickup that ran a stop sign, but he took off, so no insurance money to fix it from him and my ins. co only gave us $400. The car was totalled. But, with my tool set and my handy dandy welder and some duct tape, I was able to get the car completely street legal again. Mind you, it looked like absolute ass, but it ran. I performed nothing but basic maintenance from then on out, so the car began to become even more ratty looking. I drove it for another 2 years until I was 200 miles away from home and the transmission finally quit as i sit in the middle of a busy intersection on rt. 19. It finally caught a gear... 2nd... and i was able to drive the 6 hour trip home, one that usually takes 2.

Hiskid
11-23-2007, 06:14 PM
Hi, I'm new to this site, but have a question. I have a '94 Shadow, and the transmission is not working correctly. Before changing the trans. filter and fluid, it did not shift correctly (1st to 2nd was a real bear). After changing, it ran better for a couple hundred miles, and then stopped. Slipping has occured, now it doesn't move at all. Fluid is ATF+4 and new filter. We took the battery off hoping to reset the computer, didn't work. If turned off and then back on, it would go a few feet and stop again. HELP!

KManiac
11-24-2007, 01:19 AM
You really should have created a new thread for this, but I don't mind.

What engine and tranny do you have? The 3.0L Shadow's used the electronic 4-speed automatic (P-R-N-D-3-L). The 2.2L & 2.5L Shadow's used the 3-speed automatic (P-R-N-D-2-1). I need to know what you have before I can give you acurate advice.

Hiskid
11-24-2007, 10:54 AM
Sorry, I have no clue on the posting places. I have a 2.2l automatic with the prnd21. It has about 132,000 miles, and last night I got a little forward movement in 30 degree weather. I didn't try to drive it, just checked to see if it moves. Hope this helps. Thanks!

vamc
11-24-2007, 11:35 PM
Vac leaking maybe?

KManiac
11-25-2007, 10:03 AM
You have the 3-speed automatic with lock-up converter. This one is NOT the finicky, electronic transmission that most people dread. No computer control, no codes to read and no "limp mode".

First of all, did you check the fluid level in the transmission? Low fluid level will cause your symptoms. An acurate level check requires that you pull the dipstick when the engine is running and idling, the fluid is warm or hot and the selecter is in either "Park" or "Neutral" (always set the parking brake when doing this).

When you check the fluid, look at the color. Wiping the dipstick with a white paper towel is helpful. The fluid should be bright red. If the fluid is reddish-brown or just plain brown, and smells "burnt", an immediate fluid change is required, and pray you haven't done internal damage.

When was the last time you changed the transmission fluid and filter and adjusted the bands? This service should be performed every 30,000 miles. If you can't remember when, now is a good time. The internal filter will eventually clog if not changed regularly. A clogged filter will cause your symptoms.

Now for the final "functional test". You say in only creeps a little when shifted to "Drive" (D). Try it in "manual low" or (1). Does it creep the same way as drive or is it different? Next, put it in "reverse" (R) and try to back up. Does it move better going backward or the same as going forward?

Check all this out and report back what you find.

Hiskid
11-25-2007, 04:30 PM
Hi, we changed the transmission fluid and filter about 700 miles ago. This is the first change we did because we just didn't have a clue to do so, before checking online when trouble began. sorry, please don't fall over from grief! :( We have no clue how to check the bands, leave alone adjust them. My husband has a seizure disorder and therefore we have limited abilities in this area. There was some whining in the front engine area, but not now. The transmission level is fine, previously high. OOPS! we took some out to proper level. The fluid itself was dark but not burnt smelling, not sure what type was used before, so tried the computer reset (battery off over 24 hours), because it didn't want to work. I tested the transmission tonight (44 degrees and wet outside), didn't warm it up because need gas, and it went in reverse (sluggish, but went) and also drove it about 1/2 mile at about 15 miles an hour. I know you are all out there thinking (IDIOT!) and I don't blame you. We are able to do some basic things on cars but am also challenged in some areas (transmission). If you have suggestions, we will do our best to attempt them. Again, thanks for the assistance!

PWMAN
11-28-2007, 02:54 PM
Ehh, swap in a manual trans is my suggestion LOL :iceslolan

moparfwdsleeper
12-08-2007, 03:06 AM
:O A P body section... now ive dead and went to heaven:D

I own a 87 CSX and 88 Shadow ES(parts car now:p)

john51md
12-10-2007, 06:23 AM
Hi again, been awhile since i visited this page, I no longer have the Shadow, the deal never was compleated on the car swapping we were doing for several reasons. So son and i didnt swap.
Blast me if you want too, but am now in a 89 Z24 with a transplanted Pontiac GP 3.1. Not my first choice but the 2.8 was dead, and got a nice low mileage 3.1, fact whole car for $50.00 a teen tried to take out a concrete porch on some ones house with it, :screwy: the GP that is..
Anyway eh? Ya all have a good one ! Hey, least i can still blow off riced Civics..

PWMAN
12-10-2007, 06:38 AM
:O A P body section... now ive dead and went to heaven:D

I own a 87 CSX and 88 Shadow ES(parts car now:p)

Shutup clayton :p

comp
04-13-2008, 08:56 PM
i would be nicer if it was used :frown:

randomcars
07-15-2010, 02:04 PM
where was this 10-15 years ago when my Shadow barely ran..

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