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Wanting the unattainable


speediva
10-17-2002, 01:12 AM
Why do I always want what I can't have??? Sure, I am well-grounded and realize that I will never attain half of what I want, but why do I still want it anyway??? Additionally, why do I dismiss what is blatantly offered to me in order to seek that which is out of my reach???

Sure, it's a basic human reaction, but why can't anyone ever seem to overcome it??? Should it not be a part of evolution to leave these sorts of things behind???

tazdev
10-17-2002, 01:26 AM
I know how you feel.

The more unobtainable the "object" the more you must have it.

You dismiss what is offered because it is too easy and in general people love a challenge. Think of how good you would feel if you managed to acquire one of these "unobtainable" objects.

speediva
10-17-2002, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by tazdev
Think of how good you would feel if you managed to acquire one of these "unobtainable" objects.

But my unobtainables are truly UNobtainable. I have a better chance at becoming a Broadway singer than of getting what I want. Yet I am presented with a BETTER option, readily available, and I refuse to take it.

tazdev
10-17-2002, 02:33 AM
Sorry Tangie can't help ya there.

I guess it is just a matter of time for you to realise where you have been going wrong (wanting the unobtainable) and begin to persue the easier more obtainable path.

hope that helps

hybridsol
10-17-2002, 03:19 AM
yea..... I wish I was a JEDI Knight........

Moppie
10-17-2002, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by hybridsol
yea..... I wish I was a JEDI Knight........


And I wish you would stop making bullshit statements in serious topics. :mad:




As for wanting the unobtianable, I really can't help you Tangi, only to say that you need to take a real close look at what is with in your reach, and maybe think strongly about going for it.
Or prehaps find away to make the unobtiable, obtianable. After all if you really want something bad enough then you will find away of getting it.

hybridsol
10-17-2002, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by Moppie



And I wish you would stop making bullshit statements in serious topics. :mad:




As for wanting the unobtianable, I really can't help you Tangi, only to say that you need to take a real close look at what is with in your reach, and maybe think strongly about going for it.
Or prehaps find away to make the unobtiable, obtianable. After all if you really want something bad enough then you will find away of getting it.
wow...sorry.....didint mean to offend you........:confused:

DblOvrhedCamron
10-17-2002, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by Moppie



And I wish you would stop making bullshit statements in serious topics. :mad:




As for wanting the unobtianable, I really can't help you Tangi, only to say that you need to take a real close look at what is with in your reach, and maybe think strongly about going for it.
Or prehaps find away to make the unobtiable, obtianable. After all if you really want something bad enough then you will find away of getting it.

no way dude he's serious he has a plastic lightsaber and his IM name is ObiWanMoby......

taranaki
10-17-2002, 07:29 AM
The unobtainable is far more desirable when faced with the realities of what you can achieve today.I'd dearly love a fast and shiny car,and a fast and shiny lifestyle to go with it,but of course,in my daydreams there is no room for crippling insurance or the constant fear of knocks and scratches....my perfect car comes in its own perfect little world where everything is guarranteed happy ever after,with no unsightly scratches or unexpected component failures.My real car on the other hand is tatty,slow and dull...but at the end of the day,Ican put my hands on it and say that it's mine,I've got it,and it works,more or less.

I'm never going to stop wanting my dreams,and there's always the distant possibility that they could come true,but the question would have to be,if all of my dreams were granted to me tomorrow,would I be able to handle the full reality of my wishes?Perhaps if I work slowly towards my goals,instead of hoping for a miracle,I'll be better placed to handle the unobtainable if I ever get there.

speediva
10-17-2002, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Moppie
And I wish you would stop making bullshit statements in serious topics. :mad:


It's okay, Moppie... From living in PA for my entire life, I understand the deluded, redneck manner of mind operation. :rolleyes:

Thank you everyone for your serious replies.

YogsVR4
10-17-2002, 04:47 PM
Why do I always want what I can't have??? Sure, I am well-grounded and realize that I will never attain half of what I want, but why do I still want it anyway???

I'd say thats pretty normal. Desire is a normal human emotion its only a matter of being realistic and striving hard to reach one attainable goal after another until you reach your ultimate ones.


Additionally, why do I dismiss what is blatantly offered to me in order to seek that which is out of my reach???

Again, we always think we can do one better.


Sure, it's a basic human reaction, but why can't anyone ever seem to overcome it??? Should it not be a part of evolution to leave these sorts of things behind???

I think its not a matter of overcoming it, its a matter of controlling it. I have things I want to do and possess, and I dont dismiss any of them. I only need to stick with my plans, keep reaching certain targets and keep my desires under control when something else rears its head.

Maybe getting more focused on a specific goal would help set the pace for grander and far off ones.

darkness
10-17-2002, 05:14 PM
Desire and Hope is what keeps us going, well in my case it is.

I want lots of things, but I'm so far off the mark in terms of getting them at the moment. I guess only some of them are unobtainable.

It's probably because in some moods I can be quite cynical, so my rational mind turns away things that are unobtainable. So that I'm more realistic. There are some things though that I would love but know I could never have.

Spec2 Girl
10-17-2002, 05:26 PM
I think we all want things that we can’t have. Even when do obtain some of the things that we have desired in the past we then want more. I doubt that there is even one person who has absolutely everything that they want.

hybridsol
10-17-2002, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by saturntangerine


It's okay, Moppie... From living in PA for my entire life, I understand the deluded, redneck manner of mind operation. :rolleyes:

Thank you everyone for your serious replies.

:huh: that was uncalled for, I wanna know how I would ever be given the label (redneck)..... I didint mean to offend anyone by my comment although I may have....sorry. where do you live in Pittsburg sat. I grew up in North hills, and then we moved to wedgewood in gibsonia.

speediva
10-17-2002, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by hybridsol


:huh: that was uncalled for, I wanna know how I would ever be given the label (redneck)..... I didint mean to offend anyone by my comment although I may have....sorry. where do you live in Pittsburg sat. I grew up in North hills, and then we moved to wedgewood in gibsonia.

It was a poor attempt at a PA joke. Sorry... I guess the smiley wasn't able to convey it well. My apologies... :o

Anyhoo, I'm from south of the city. I live down near Canonsburg (not far from Iceoplex at Southpointe).

Again, I am sorry my joke offended you.

hybridsol
10-18-2002, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by saturntangerine


It was a poor attempt at a PA joke. Sorry... I guess the smiley wasn't able to convey it well. My apologies... :o

Anyhoo, I'm from south of the city. I live down near Canonsburg (not far from Iceoplex at Southpointe).

Again, I am sorry my joke offended you.

don't worry about ti its hard to convey jokes over the internet. I too am sorry that I misread :)

taranaki
10-18-2002, 07:17 AM
Been thinking about this for a while....

The 'unattainable' usually isn't.The odds may be slim[how many guys ever get to be a football hero,or a F1 driver,or an astronaut?] but somebody has to be the one.Without those who dare to dream,the things that we all take for granted would never have been invented,continents would never have been discovered,world records would never be beaten.We all have the capacity to dream,although there are times when our dreams are impractical - consider the midget who wants to be an NBA star for example.The odds are stacked so far beyond his reach[pardon the pun],but that shouldn't prevent him from trying.Within our dreams and our aspirations we find the motivation for many other things.If you don't dream,you end up with whatever life puts on your plate.You may never reach the prize that you seek,but if you never try,you certainly never will.

hybridsol
10-18-2002, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by taranaki
Been thinking about this for a while....

The 'unattainable' usually isn't.The odds may be slim[how many guys ever get to be a football hero,or a F1 driver,or an astronaut?] but somebody has to be the one.Without those who dare to dream,the things that we all take for granted would never have been invented,continents would never have been discovered,world records would never be beaten.We all have the capacity to dream,although there are times when our dreams are impractical - consider the midget who wants to be an NBA star for example.The odds are stacked so far beyond his reach[pardon the pun],but that shouldn't prevent him from trying.Within our dreams and our aspirations we find the motivation for many other things.If you don't dream,you end up with whatever life puts on your plate.You may never reach the prize that you seek,but if you never try,you certainly never will.
that was deep man and so true.....I bet one day that F1 racer was watching a TV wishing he could be just like the guy in the cockpit. a few years later after following his dream he's in the cockpit. kinda gives you hope.

Ssom
10-19-2002, 03:01 AM
Some day I wish to be a sucessful lawyer, BTCC champion, Real Madrid star and Millionaire- and I know if I work for them it is possible- but I also have to focus on the short-term- what will get me there :)

hybridsol
10-19-2002, 03:41 AM
I hear that moss. question off the topic, sorry. Anyway how do I get smoovsol to stop attempting to bash my posts and call me a newbie? I'm shure he's a cool guy but im getting sick of him trying to put down my posts. Shoulden't there be some kind of bond between sol ppl? What gives?

Ssom
10-19-2002, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by hybridsol
I hear that moss. question off the topic, sorry. Anyway how do I get smoovsol to stop attempting to bash my posts and call me a newbie? I'm shure he's a cool guy but im getting sick of him trying to put down my posts. Shoulden't there be some kind of bond between sol ppl? What gives? Moss will protect j00- :D - otherwise- 1st Threaten to report him to the moderators- if he continues- then report him- he will in turn be warned :D

DblOvrhedCamron
10-19-2002, 04:02 AM
wow he really is stalking you.....maybe you should tell him about your mech. engineering degree and your Hyperspectral Data Processing project's, I didint even understand that crap...... he seems to think he knows what he's talking about.

Damien
10-19-2002, 09:29 AM
Um.....alright. I guess this question can be answered by both sexes, but it's still on-topic.

Since my move from Italy, I've seemed to have gain more morales in the past couple of months and now I wished I didn't. Before, if I liked a girl, I would still try to see what would hapen(ya know?) even if she was taken because that's me. Now, I seem to feel it moraly wrong and there is this girl that I like, but she has a b/f.....in Kentucky. This kills me even more because the long distance provides such and oppurtunity for me to succed. I want to at least try and this time it wouldn't just be for the benefits, I actually like her. But now, she seems to really like him, but it's also like the only guy she has been with except some major mistakes (obvious to everyone at school) and she ended up getting back together with the guy. (They broke up for awhile and in between she went out with the mistakes)

With me so far? Alright, anyhow, should I try? This is something that shouldn't be bugging me but it does! Input por favor?

Sorry to do this to your thread Tangie, but I didn't want to start a new thread and this ties in with the title.

SentraGirl
10-19-2002, 03:32 PM
First this is to Tangie, IMHO we want what we can't have for the simple reason that we are testing ourselves. It's inherited, even as a child. The way I see it, as a kid, I would always want what I couldn't have, and as I got older the demands got more involved. As a child, I wanted candy but couldn't reach it so I made a ladder out of whatever I could find. As a teenager I would want freedom from parents and did whatever it took to achieve that. Now, as an adult, I want stability which is attainable after time. But I want it now. I dream of having a huge white house, a successful business, a loyal husband, and four kids. Of course, circumstances will get in the way, like I can't walk at the moment, I have to learn again, which is slowing me down but it's made me stronger. Anyways, my point is ... your goals are what keep you going.

As for Damien, IMHO I would let her work out her drama before loading her up with some more. It seems to me that if she feels the same for you as you feel for her, that she will let you know when to pursue a new relationship. I hope everything works out but I think you should give the girl some time to think about what she really wants. :confused:

hybridsol
10-19-2002, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Moss1O6GTi
Moss will protect j00- :D - otherwise- 1st Threaten to report him to the moderators- if he continues- then report him- he will in turn be warned :D
sorry to stary off-topic but thanks moss I appreciate it I owe u one.
and also I agree with sentragirl you don't need a drama queen trust me.

darkness
10-19-2002, 09:25 PM
well as an example of getting something that used to be un-obtainable.

my car. I used to have an old crappy car. I would see the nice done up ones drive down the street and go "I want one so bad". But at the time I couldn't afford a nice one or the mods for it. So it seemed so far off before I could.

Then I was lucky enough to find a car that I liked and could afford. When I got it I learned about it and discovered what could be done to it. And also realised that what I dreamed about wasn't that far away. It could be done, I just had to have patience.

Now as most of my friends know, I have slowly started doing little bits to it. I am slowly saving money to do the big jobs.

Now the key for me is that I can see a picture in my mind of what the end result will be. That is my drive. I know I can organise myself enough to make it there. I just have to have the patience.

I know a car dream isn't the hardest one to live out but thats how much I want it.

tonioseven
12-22-2002, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by taranaki
The unobtainable is far more desirable when faced with the realities of what you can achieve today.I'd dearly love a fast and shiny car,and a fast and shiny lifestyle to go with it,but of course,in my daydreams there is no room for crippling insurance or the constant fear of knocks and scratches....my perfect car comes in its own perfect little world where everything is guarranteed happy ever after,with no unsightly scratches or unexpected component failures.My real car on the other hand is tatty,slow and dull...but at the end of the day,Ican put my hands on it and say that it's mine,I've got it,and it works,more or less.

I'm never going to stop wanting my dreams,and there's always the distant possibility that they could come true,but the question would have to be,if all of my dreams were granted to me tomorrow,would I be able to handle the full reality of my wishes?Perhaps if I work slowly towards my goals,instead of hoping for a miracle,I'll be better placed to handle the unobtainable if I ever get there. This is exactly how I feel but Taranaki worded it better than I probably would have; for instance I would love to have an R-33 Skyline Gt-R but the reality is that I wouldn't be able to afford the upkeep and insurance for it. I have learned to be accepting of the good things I have and realize it's only human to want things I cannot readily attain. Thanks for allowing me to reply. :)

THE4TH
03-07-2003, 10:49 PM
yeah i hear that...
but it's mostly with women and cars.. lol
but i wish i could just settle it would make it so much easier..
but i have the right to want something so i have the right to try for it.. as futile as it may be..

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