Night of unexpected fun!

Well, sence I bought that 100oct gas I didnt want it to go to waste. Me and DMC12 decided to take the bird out for a quick rally and see what we could find. Lemme tell you...it was dissapointing, it was the night of the old people...untill we found this volvo...thing...which said BORA on the back. I followed it onto the freeyway, and he didnt want to go, so I tryed to get a cobra to go for it, he looked at me funny and siped his smothie and obviously you know how that went. So on my way back home I roll up to this 94(?) 4 door Accord with a major body mod, fart can, and proper loweing...no thousand bounce per foot shit. Well, were crusing along and I figure he wont go for it but then suddenly he downshifts and floors it, so I let him catch up before I give it some gas and bait him because we had a red, he passes me up and we make it to a light. Well, neather of us launch when it turns green *I was going to, but I figured it wasnt worth it on a accord* and were off, you can hear his fart can buzzing like a hoard of angry wasps as he trys to keep up and I pull hard past him only to have a minivan cut me off, so he buzzes past and I jet after him pulling hard. We arrive at another light, no cars ahead of us. Still neather of us launch but were flying down the street and by 70 I had 4 car lenghts on him at least. I gave him a thumbs up and he flashed his emergencys at me and I went home. (his girl *forgot to mention her, she was his passenger* didnt look impressed by his car :p ) Well, on my way to work a 71 camaro pulls onto the road i'm on and I pull along side, were both going about 45 and I jet ahead a bit and wait till he catches up, and when he does he floors it and so I do the same. Were both pulling about the same untill 70 when I start pulling on him, by 85 I had him at my rear bumper and I let off, I won, no need to risk getting a ticket to prove something more.

All in all, a damn fine night :D

(and after work I got to check out a guys mini cooper S, man the interior is kick ass!)

[Mr. Burns] Excellent [/Mr. Burns]

Nicely killed TV!!! Gimme a couple weeks and i'll go head to head with you, competing for the best stories!!

:D

That was cool & well-needed rallying after the stresses of the day and probably prevented me from going out and murdering someone. The "BORA" was actually a new body style VW Jetta. Who knows why you'd re-badge a Jetta but whatever. Yes, the girl in the Accord didn't look impressed:p

Nice kills, I will miss the days of being able to have fun with 120 octane fuel.

Originally posted by Polygon
Nice kills, I will miss the days of being able to have fun with 120 octane fuel.

120.....*drools* that would be completly pointless for my car...but oh my shit.....

SWEET KILL!!! I love it when people soup family accords. any 4-door honda that gets souped is...
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I think the whole mentality of that is that mommy and daddy got them a car so they couldn't choose between the 2-door or 4-door thing but since it's an "import", they can soup it anyways. Oh that 4-door thing? who cares... prolly nobody will notice anyways!

Mini coopers are goofy looking! I'll admit. The interior's nice, and they're fast. But I hate the way they look. My neighbor has one. I'm not too Impressed. Expecially since my next door neighbor on the other side has a white Corvette Z06. And I'm in the middle with a homely import.

whats wrong with hopping up a 4 door family sedan? thats how a sleeper becomes a sleeper! i know my mom's 4 door accord(all stock) isnt that fast, but its fun to drive. and you'd be surprised how many cars are slower than my mom's high 15 second car:alien:

Hey, too bad the cobra didnt want any. Those darn smothies can be addictive. Good job with the camaro and mandatory stomping of the ricer accord.

Nice kill! :D

Don’t mean to sound like a total moron or anything, but would 100 octane make a difference in your car with it being a domestic and not tuned for the higher octane fuel. :confused: Also while we are on the topic of octane (sort of :p ) I also had a debate in OT about higher octane fuel and how my car doesn’t perform as well with lower octane fuel (96 as opposed to 98) and I basically got told that it was all in my head.

Originally posted by Spec2 Girl
Nice kill! :D

Don’t mean to sound like a total moron or anything, but would 100 octane make a difference in your car with it being a domestic and not tuned for the higher octane fuel. :confused: Also while we are on the topic of octane (sort of :p ) I also had a debate in OT about higher octane fuel and how my car doesn’t perform as well with lower octane fuel (96 as opposed to 98) and I basically got told that it was all in my head.

Actually it does help because my mass-air sensor dosnt do what it should...THANK YOU FORD!

At higher rpm's the higher oct fuel dosent pre-detanote with heat, thus once warmed up some it actually will fire better. Ontop of that because I have an EFI with an EEC *fuel injected with a comp controlling it* it puts less in on normal driving because it sences its too rich, but when I romp on it, the timing retards and it puts some more in as it also draws in a buttload of air, giving me more power. Granted I dont have an 11.5-1 compression ratio engine, I dont -need- it but it helps. Muscle heads with carbs for high tech equipment would argue it dosent help, but they know nothing of electronic systems.

Your car does much the same thing, but also you have a very refined turbo system, and with the higher oct fuel, it can take more boost and use the same ammount of gas. The reason being it takes more to burn it so more air into the mixture.

Example *not scientifically correct, but it gets the idea across*

87oct-1,000 parts air
91oct-2,500Air
100oct-4,000Air

so if it leans it way out, you use alot less gas for the same burn.
And on WOT *wide open throdle* you can take alot more air, and thus more power.

Your car -needs- higher oct, and very high dosent hurt, it helps alot

Mine it helps some, no real big bonus really. Maby like 5 hp or something.

Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
Your car -needs- higher oct, and very high dosent hurt, it helps alot

So I was correct in thinking that my car does run better on the higher octane fuel and that it's not all in my head? :p

Yes, especially if you have a turbo. It is suggested that you run only 91 octane or higher. I definitely saw a difference when I ran 120 octane, I even saw a big difference over 100 octane. A stock Honda Civic isn't going to benefit from 91 octane, but a Skyline will, no question. And if you are a turbo, then you should run 91 at the lowest. It mainly depends on how your engine is tuned.

Originally posted by TerminalVelocity


Muscle heads with carbs for high tech equipment would argue it dosent help, but they know nothing of electronic systems.




We know nothing of electronic systems?.... HAHAHA righttttt

I assumed you had a truck with some systems and didnt include youinto this....:rolleyes:

What does the TPS do?

*Throdle Position Sensor*

Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
I assumed you had a truck with some systems and didnt include youinto this....:rolleyes:

What does the TPS do?

*Throdle Position Sensor*



:huh: Ummm what does my Truck have to with anything? Its Carbuerated... big deal.


And the TPS deal, You have a tendency to ramble shit off about your car which can confuse me. "ahh my 302tractionlok 3.08 gears but my sensor for my TPSRAF diddle daddle hinge point with my K&N and the gearing with my AOD4911 1 2 1 2. .... Buchi"

which makes me go... What's a TPS? Not that i dont know what a Thottle Position Sensor is, or what it does... but you like i mentioned have a tendancy to ramble, so I asked... wondering what the hell you were pointing at. Is that a crime? If so tell me, cause ill just shut up whenever you mention your Ultrafast car. Mr. MAN! :hehehe:

OWNS JOOOOO!!!! :p

Anywho, enough bashing each other... you just made a blatant statement that anybody with a Carb knows jack squat about anything Fuel Injected related. I found that to be offensive.

Shut up mr type R gas cap.....





















:p


hahaha, yes, I would get into detail with this but you tryed bashing me for the 100oct, well 5 gallons lasted me 140miles with mass rallying, so I say thats pretty damn good.

Just to add in, my car now has 91 in it again :D

Originally posted by 94svt5.0
Those darn smothies can be addictive.
Yes, when you're sipping on a Peanut Butter Moo'd from Jamb Juice... even a Diablo looks like a waste of time:D Okay, so maybe I'm exaggerating but they are good! (both the Diablo & the PB Moo'd).

Muscle heads with carbs for high tech equipment would argue it dosent help, but they know nothing of electronic systems.

You can't really say that. Some mechanics who have been working on cars when carbs were the thing, had to learn all about the other electronic systems, fuel injected and whatever else, when carb engines went out and fuel injected went in. If they didn't learn, naturally they were out of a job. If everyone who used to work on cars in the 60's and 70's all quit their jobs, then maybe your statement might have some fact to it.

I thought a TPS was a report or something? (Office Space. Corny yet Unrefined :licker: )


whats wrong with hopping up a 4 door family sedan? thats how a sleeper becomes a sleeper! i know my mom's 4 door accord(all stock) isnt that fast, but its fun to drive. and you'd be surprised how many cars are slower than my mom's high 15 second car


eeh, you're right. They are fun to drive. They can be sleepers and they really can be nice. But all the 4-door accords I've seen in person are all show. It's always been the same story. Their mommy or somebody got them a car so they really couldn't choose a 2-door but what the hell, might as well make it cool looking. There's an Accord around here that looks SO nice. <<[I'm usually not that impressed by most peoples souped cars because often times it's overly generic or has MAJOR traits of RICE. I can understand little things but I saw somebody the other day that wired 10" LiteGlow neons together and then wired them under his car.:rolleyes: ]>> So I park next to this guy and he's got 20% tinted windows, all around. Terminator 2 spoiler, altezzas, 17" rims, carbon fiber hood, a gew gauges on the side. So I get him to pop the hood and he's completely stock. And he's an automatic. Earlier he was bragging about his 12 second 1\4. All show. This is how it's always been around here. Props to anyone that actually soups the engine. Nothing wrong with that. It's jsut the posers, who can come in any car so the Accord thing wasn't entirely true. just the first to come to mind.

Originally posted by Spec2 Girl
Nice kill! :D

Don’t mean to sound like a total moron or anything, but would 100 octane make a difference in your car with it being a domestic and not tuned for the higher octane fuel. :confused: Also while we are on the topic of octane (sort of :p ) I also had a debate in OT about higher octane fuel and how my car doesn’t perform as well with lower octane fuel (96 as opposed to 98) and I basically got told that it was all in my head.

Hmm, I just wrote a 5 min reply to this, but the server was busy, so I lost the messag :mad:

Anyways, assuming a good running engine, there are several things that affect detonation. There is the compression ratio, the octane rating of the fuel, and the ignition timing. The more you compress the fuel/air mixture, the slower you want it to burn. When it burns at the correct speed, you get the most power. If it burns to quickly, you suffer detonation, and it damages your engine.

Your engine has EFI, and a knock sensor. The knock sensor senses detonation and immediately retards the ignition a few degrees, to prevent full detonation. The result is minor detonation, not really enough to notice. You will notice it isn't as smooth, and it is making less power than usual.

Turbocharging is a way of effectively raising the compression. Under boost, the turbo stuffs more air into the cylinder, and once the intake valve closes, it compresses it to a ratio far greater than the outside atmosphere. I think the ratio is 1 lb of boost/0.4 CR... it's a very rough ratio, and not 100% accurate, when flow and static compression are taken into account, but it's pretty close. So 10 lbs of boost, would raise your overall compression ratio abour 4 points, making an 8:1 engine 12:1 under boost. 20 lbs would make it 16:1, which as you can tell is a hell of a lot of compression. The higher the compression, the slower the fuel has to burn, thus the higher octane rating.

There is a certain fuel your engine has been configured to run for, it should say in your owners handbook... If you raise the boost, you'll have to raise the octane of your fuel. OTOH, if you lower your boost, you can use cheaper fuel. If you use 100 octane gas in a car tuned to use 87 octane, you're actually going to lose power, because the gas will burn TOO slowly.

BTW, LPG has a RON of 130, which is why when regular engines are converted to propane, they lose a little power. However, if the compression is raised, the power is more than made up for. Propane also works wonders for turbocharged engines, since the very cold propane gas works to lower the charge temperature after the intercooler, sometimes resulting in lower temperature than the outside air! Also, it's exempt from fuel taxes(unless you fill up at the pump), and burns much cleaner than gasoline(emissions test anyone?)...

This is why my shop will be doing LPG conversions as soon as I can open up...

Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
[B]Shut up mr type R gas cap.....

[b/]



SHUT UP, DONT BE FRONTIN YO!


Just cause i have a Genuine Type-R Gas cap... no need to be jealous fool!


Yes, My Chevy Truck has a Honda Motorcorp. Gas Cap. So i wrote TYPE-R on it with White-Out. It grossed me 60hp... Net'd me 42hp. Im badass.


:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Cbass
Hmm, I just wrote a 5 min reply to this, but the server was busy, so I lost the messag
Happens to me all the time. Before you post highlight your text & copy it to your clipboard.

Anyway, thanks for posting that good description of octane, boost and compresion:ylsuper

Thank you, that's why they call me The Professor... I'm just a well of information, some of it, even useful!

Originally posted by Cbass

Hmm, I just wrote a 5 min reply to this, but the server was busy, so I lost the message


Don't you just hate that server busy thing? I'll intentionally get up at like 2:00 at night to try to look shit up and it still says server too busy.
I swear I'd have like 42 more *long* posts if I didn't get that busy server message that wipes my post clean. Not including the 712 "i just want to post something stupid so I can waste bandwidth" posts.

Oh well, what can you do.

It always seems to be the long in depth posts that get killed... I've take to copying the info, and waiting to see. :(

When u copy to clipboard.. its usually fine, it's the times when u forget... that it screws up...