supercharged turbo

Im curious...i got a 98 honda civic Dx stock engine...its a 5 speed...wandering if its possible to put a supercharged turbo on it.... curious on how much one would cost and how much of a performance increase youd get

a supercharged turbo? I never heard of one. Sounds like it would be cool, however contradictory.
Mabey you should just go for a turbo or a supercharger instead of this new-fangled unit. Actually, what you should do first is find out what a turbo and supercharger actually are and what they do and how they do it before you start looking a prices and performance gains. Trust me these things are not a bolt on by any means. I would sugest you take a look at www.howstuffworks.com and read up on turbos.

actually turbo's and superchargers are pretty much just bolt ons. I think i know what your asking but it will be expensive and you'll have to find somebody with the right knowledge of how both and what the effects on eachother will be. With the right amount of money anything can be done. The ideal thing you would want to do is, have the supercharger(depending on type) which spools instantly give you the quick low end torque that you need and once the turbo is spooled, the supercharger would shut off and let the turbo do it's job. This is the quick and easiest way i know of how to explain this.

I know about sequential turbocharging, but sequential forced induction, what a cool idea...

yea im probly talkin out my ass...sorry about that guys.. im just kinda new to this kinda stuff...ive had my car for like 4 months got about 3,000 into it so far...i dunno what my next step will be...but im just kinda gettin a idea on what to do...

i read up on that turbo site..pretty interesting stuff there...so you think a 98 honda dx could handle a turbo?

Originally posted by civicgsr_T4_60-1
actually turbo's and superchargers are pretty much just bolt ons. I think i know what your asking but it will be expensive and you'll have to find somebody with the right knowledge of how both and what the effects on eachother will be. With the right amount of money anything can be done. The ideal thing you would want to do is, have the supercharger(depending on type) which spools instantly give you the quick low end torque that you need and once the turbo is spooled, the supercharger would shut off and let the turbo do it's job. This is the quick and easiest way i know of how to explain this.

Been done...Also been found to my pointless, useless, and a waste of money....Unless you just want an extremely rare setup...And superchargers dont have instantaneous boost, they lag, just as turbo's do, albeit not nearly as much.

That is incorrect, depending on they type of blower you use, they don't have lag. Some give power the second you mash the gas.

one way or the other it has been done..
it can be done and will be done again .. it's all about who cares.. and has the cash.. and then who has more cash to make it work right.. lol

You know, now that i think about it, the Meguiars(spelling) car wax people had an integra with crazy stuff done to it. It had a supercharger and turbo on it. I'm not sure if it was more of a show car, because i never heard about any times posted by it.

Superchargers are going to provide a more linear boost throughout the whole powerband. Turbos usally dont produce a lot of torque until about 3000 RPM's. Depending on your money situation and how you want the car to perform I believe the biggist gains will be seen with a large turbocharger and a bottle of NOS to help with the significant lag that big turbos are prone to.

completely agree, NOS will help spool the turbo quicker. Not to mention, it's an easy setup to do as long as you have proper tuning.

If you have a straight drive, how can you use NOS before you get in 5th gear? You said to help the turbo spool up wuicker use NOS, how. If you hit the button in like 2cd gear, what the hell do you do after that?
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Its easy and people do it every day. The best way to do it is to get a system like the Venom which will actually allow the specified amount of NOS to be delivered when you specify it to be delivered. I believe the system ha three different profiles 1 which allows the nitrous to start at a specified RPM, 1 which allows nitrous to start when you hit wide open throttle, and I am not sure about the third profile it has been awhile since I read up on it. Talk to any drag racer and they will tell you that they use NOS before they get to 5th gear. I was in fact referring to a 2 stage system maybe 50-75 shot which you could set to run between say 1500 and 3000 RPM.

Originally posted by bcsintegra
If you have a straight drive, how can you use NOS before you get in 5th gear? You said to help the turbo spool up wuicker use NOS, how. If you hit the button in like 2cd gear, what the hell do you do after that?
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When i talk about using the nitrous to spool the turbo, you really need a big turbo that spools around 4.5k to do what i'm talking about. Like me i have a T4 60-1 .70a/r garrett ball bearing turbo. I should start to spool around 4-4.5k rpm. If i used the NOS, i could spool around 3k rpm(guestimate). Most drag cars that run huge turbo's use nitrous to spool the turbo faster. Your not really using the nitrous the make more power for the motor, your using it to spool the turbo quicker so it can make higher boost sooner-which in turn makes more power. Also, if your waiting till 5th gear to use NOS, why even spray, more than likely you would have already gotten your ass handed to you. Most guys i know spray in the top of bottom or top of third.

So if I got this Venom system you are referring to, then I could set the NOS to come in at say, from 2.5-3.5k rpm to spool up a big turbo. Then let the turbo handle it. Well, if i got this done, the NOS wouldn't shoot every time i got in my car and drove it would it, or are you guys just talking about strictly racing.