STi or evo X
sentra_94
04-19-2007, 02:00 PM
thinkin about geting a new car what should i get. STI, evo X, GT500, or other
mr_tw
04-20-2007, 12:24 AM
I voted for the Evo X because the pictures so far have led me to believe that the Subaru's styling has been ruined, and with the new awd system Mitsu has developed it sould be awesome in the bends, *BUT* if you want more power than handling, the GT500 is by far the way to go, easily the cheapest way to get 500hp, (and rumors have a GT500KR coming out with ~540hp) the handling won't be near what the Evo X or STi will be but the STi and Evo X will never match the Power Band of the GT500, it will always be far more driver friendly, big V8's and superchargers tend to do that, so it depends if you like straight roads or the bends, keep us updated man, and good luck
freakray
04-20-2007, 07:44 AM
Drive them all and see which you like best. Every one else's opinion is based on their own preferences.
sentra_94
04-20-2007, 01:49 PM
i've been leaning toward the STI or EVO cause i live in nj and there isn't to many wide open areas to realy make the GT500 do what it is built to do, get on the open road and floor it. where as with the evo or STI you can get through traffic a loot faster cause you can simply fit in smaller gaps. i also here the new EVO isn't as boost friendly and the EVO lX. and i don't like the new styling of the new STI but it will proably grow on me.
G-man422
04-20-2007, 02:11 PM
I like the evo X.
SB300
04-26-2007, 10:54 AM
anyone know the differences in stock boost psi and safe max boost for the stock Sti's and EVO's?
i'm trying to compare the potential to make more power with minimal mods between the two. I've heard rumors that the EVO's are around 20 psi and max is at 23 psi, and the Sti is 13.5 psi and max is at 16 or 17 psi. is that close to accurate?
Also what size turbos do each have?
i'm trying to compare the potential to make more power with minimal mods between the two. I've heard rumors that the EVO's are around 20 psi and max is at 23 psi, and the Sti is 13.5 psi and max is at 16 or 17 psi. is that close to accurate?
Also what size turbos do each have?
SabreKhan
04-26-2007, 11:48 AM
I'd vote for the Evo right now. The hatchback STi makes me want to barf.
sentra_94
04-26-2007, 01:45 PM
I'd vote for the Evo right now. The hatchback STi makes me want to barf.
i wouldn' buy the hatch back it is ugly
i wouldn' buy the hatch back it is ugly
SB300
04-26-2007, 02:45 PM
I'd vote for the Evo right now. The hatchback STi makes me want to barf.
i don't think they're going to make the Sti in a hatchback are they? i thought that was just the regular WRX. i could be wrong...but yea i don't really like the pics of the new hatch...mainly because of the front end though.
i don't think they're going to make the Sti in a hatchback are they? i thought that was just the regular WRX. i could be wrong...but yea i don't really like the pics of the new hatch...mainly because of the front end though.
freakray
04-26-2007, 04:49 PM
i don't think they're going to make the Sti in a hatchback are they? i thought that was just the regular WRX. i could be wrong...but yea i don't really like the pics of the new hatch...mainly because of the front end though.
The STI will be hatch.
The STI will be hatch.
SB300
04-26-2007, 06:53 PM
oh okay...well that sucks then.
freakray
04-26-2007, 08:27 PM
If you understand the origins of the Impreza's design, you will understand why Subaru is following the hatch route.
SB300
04-27-2007, 11:56 AM
oh okay i didn't know that...i used to have an 02 WRX, and learned quite a few things about it, but didn't know that fact...its still ugly. then again, its not like the suby is all that "beautiful" of a car to begin with.
when was it a hatch? any pics of those years?
when was it a hatch? any pics of those years?
freakray
04-27-2007, 12:09 PM
I am not going to write a historical dissertation for you, but I will explain why Subaru is heading down the hatch route.
The Impreza was designed to follow the Legacy in what was then Group A of the WRC, in 1997 Group A became the WRC Car class and the Impreza was redesigned to the coupe to take advantage of the new class rules.
2001 saw the first major redesign of the Impreza after the coupe and we got the bugeye version. Initially the bugeye was competitive in the WRC but for some reason Subaru redesigned it for 'aerodynamic' reasons. Same again happened in 2006.
Since then, sedans have been less and less successful in the WRC, European hatchbacks have begun being the car to beat due to weight distribution and balance. In a straight line the Impreza is competitive, the hatchbacks are killing Subaru on the winding European courses though.
In an effort to catch up, Subaru have redesigned the Impreza as a hatch with the STI being a true hatchback - this has a lot to do with meeting FIA rule requirements for production numbers (also why not everywhere gets the STI with a 2.5L - FIA rules require the production version be available with a 2.0l).
The hatchback has been designed to be a competive handling car - expect the STI hatch to handle better than its predecessor in the sedan format.
The Impreza was designed to follow the Legacy in what was then Group A of the WRC, in 1997 Group A became the WRC Car class and the Impreza was redesigned to the coupe to take advantage of the new class rules.
2001 saw the first major redesign of the Impreza after the coupe and we got the bugeye version. Initially the bugeye was competitive in the WRC but for some reason Subaru redesigned it for 'aerodynamic' reasons. Same again happened in 2006.
Since then, sedans have been less and less successful in the WRC, European hatchbacks have begun being the car to beat due to weight distribution and balance. In a straight line the Impreza is competitive, the hatchbacks are killing Subaru on the winding European courses though.
In an effort to catch up, Subaru have redesigned the Impreza as a hatch with the STI being a true hatchback - this has a lot to do with meeting FIA rule requirements for production numbers (also why not everywhere gets the STI with a 2.5L - FIA rules require the production version be available with a 2.0l).
The hatchback has been designed to be a competive handling car - expect the STI hatch to handle better than its predecessor in the sedan format.
keita
04-27-2007, 11:40 PM
I don't understand why people are masturbating about 08 STI and Evo X. We have seen some pics of WRX, but have no idea about the new STI in terms of its looks and performance.
It's a waste of time talking about it until we see them and someone reviewes them and when we have a good idea of what they are going to look/drive/handle like.
Besides, why are you briging up a GT500 in this poll?? WTF, it's not even in the same genre...why don't you throw in a Honda CBR and Hummer H2 while you are at it, moron.
It's a waste of time talking about it until we see them and someone reviewes them and when we have a good idea of what they are going to look/drive/handle like.
Besides, why are you briging up a GT500 in this poll?? WTF, it's not even in the same genre...why don't you throw in a Honda CBR and Hummer H2 while you are at it, moron.
mr_tw
04-28-2007, 04:07 AM
chill there man, no need for name calling, and the cars are in the same class performance class although they do not directly compete against each other is a terrible reason to not include them on your to look at list having a comparison of those cars at a race track is stupid, but when your looking to buy a car, you consider all possibilities that interest you and determine which is the best suit for what you want, you could look at a sedan a station wagon a SUV ans a mini van and it would be fine as you are searching for a vehicle that suits you, as opposed to just looking at one specific class of car.
SB300
05-02-2007, 09:38 AM
chill there man, no need for name calling, and the cars are in the same class performance class although they do not directly compete against each other is a terrible reason to not include them on your to look at list having a comparison of those cars at a race track is stupid, but when your looking to buy a car, you consider all possibilities that interest you and determine which is the best suit for what you want, you could look at a sedan a station wagon a SUV ans a mini van and it would be fine as you are searching for a vehicle that suits you, as opposed to just looking at one specific class of car.
although the name calling was a little out of line, i kind of agree with the guy about the GT500 not belonging on the poll. I was wondering myself why it was there. true you can compare any cars you want, but you're not going to have much to compare between two completely different car classes such as the STi/EVO and the GT500. i mean you could talk tiul you're blue in the face about all the muscle car aspects of the GT500 and all the rally car aspects of the STi/EVO cars, but what's the point, those differences are obvious. they were built to be ultra-high performance cars in those respective car classes. If the subaru guys wanted to be compared against the GT500's, Charger SRT-8's, Vipers, etc. they'd design a muscle car.
basically its pointless to put a GT500 in a STI/EVO polls, especially on the subaru forum...just as it would be pointless to put an Sti or any other non-muscle car in a Ford forum against the Mustang GT, GT500, Charger, and GTO. the majority of people on that forum are going to vote for the muscle cars, that's why they're on that forum, cause they like muscle cars. see what i'm saying man?
although the name calling was a little out of line, i kind of agree with the guy about the GT500 not belonging on the poll. I was wondering myself why it was there. true you can compare any cars you want, but you're not going to have much to compare between two completely different car classes such as the STi/EVO and the GT500. i mean you could talk tiul you're blue in the face about all the muscle car aspects of the GT500 and all the rally car aspects of the STi/EVO cars, but what's the point, those differences are obvious. they were built to be ultra-high performance cars in those respective car classes. If the subaru guys wanted to be compared against the GT500's, Charger SRT-8's, Vipers, etc. they'd design a muscle car.
basically its pointless to put a GT500 in a STI/EVO polls, especially on the subaru forum...just as it would be pointless to put an Sti or any other non-muscle car in a Ford forum against the Mustang GT, GT500, Charger, and GTO. the majority of people on that forum are going to vote for the muscle cars, that's why they're on that forum, cause they like muscle cars. see what i'm saying man?
mr_tw
05-04-2007, 05:35 PM
I agree with you, but, the GT500 if it's something he wants, he's not saying that they are direct competition he is just saying it's a car that caught his eye and he is interested and would like to know our opinion on it, in comparison to other cars that he is already looking at, but i do agree with there not being much to compare them with as one is for long big tracks (Road America) and others for small tracks with tight bends (Tsukuba)
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