Buffalo!!
JD@af
10-14-2002, 11:12 PM
I first read about buffalo meat in Muscle and Fitness well over a year ago. Then several months ago, I noticed it in the local Stop & Shop for the first time. Well, tonight I decided it was finally time to try it. Cooked it up just like I would a piece of beef, and I am pleasantly surprised (I mean, it is a little tough, but I think that's more a function of the fact that I can't cook worth a damn more than anything else). Amazingly lean, with fractional amounts of the fat and cholesterol that beef has. And pretty tasty with my token soy sauce, sesame oil, and ginger.
It pays to try new things. Right on :sun:
It pays to try new things. Right on :sun:
S Brake
10-15-2002, 12:30 AM
My mom is a total health freak so she cooked up some buff burgers a while ago. It was better than I thought it would be, it was actually quite sweet. But I still couldn't eat it all, didn't really taste all that great.
replicant_008
10-15-2002, 12:42 AM
Venison is good too. mmmmm Venison. Other than the fact that it's way overpriced in NZ (which I can't understand the things used to damn pests here) it's very lean and tasty.
JD@af
10-15-2002, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by replicant_008
Venison is good too. mmmmm Venison. Other than the fact that it's way overpriced in NZ (which I can't understand the things used to damn pests here) it's very lean and tasty. I can't remember if I've had venison or not. I think I have, but I can't be sure. I did have moose a little over a year ago, and man, that was amazingly good.
Too bad that the staple red meat in the American diet, and perhaps much of the rest of the workd, is beef. Maybe it is a more sustainable source for the kind of mass consumption that we as a culture indulge in, but clearly there are healthier choices.
Venison is good too. mmmmm Venison. Other than the fact that it's way overpriced in NZ (which I can't understand the things used to damn pests here) it's very lean and tasty. I can't remember if I've had venison or not. I think I have, but I can't be sure. I did have moose a little over a year ago, and man, that was amazingly good.
Too bad that the staple red meat in the American diet, and perhaps much of the rest of the workd, is beef. Maybe it is a more sustainable source for the kind of mass consumption that we as a culture indulge in, but clearly there are healthier choices.
ci5ic
10-15-2002, 01:02 AM
Vennison makes the BEST burgers! Lord that stuff is good! Very flavorful.
kicker1_solo
10-15-2002, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by replicant_008
Venison is good too. mmmmm Venison. I just went out hunting for some of that yesterday. :)
Venison is good too. mmmmm Venison. I just went out hunting for some of that yesterday. :)
Moppie
10-15-2002, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by JD@af
I Maybe it is a more sustainable source for the kind of mass consumption that we as a culture indulge in, but clearly there are healthier choices.
sustainable? your kidding me right?
I Maybe it is a more sustainable source for the kind of mass consumption that we as a culture indulge in, but clearly there are healthier choices.
sustainable? your kidding me right?
replicant_008
10-15-2002, 02:20 AM
Before everyone gets confused with Moppie's comments... grain-fed beef is possibly the most inefficient and unsustainable way of growing protein.
Every year, millions of acres of rain-forest disappears to satisfy the western appetite for beef. And we also harvesting unsustainable quantities of tuna as well.
We also have the farce where countries with more efficient farming methods (eg clover and ryegrass pasture in New Zealand) are forced to compete with grain-fed beef from other countries who rely on massive farm subsidies to bridge the gap.
It's okay I still eat beef too (but not tuna).
Every year, millions of acres of rain-forest disappears to satisfy the western appetite for beef. And we also harvesting unsustainable quantities of tuna as well.
We also have the farce where countries with more efficient farming methods (eg clover and ryegrass pasture in New Zealand) are forced to compete with grain-fed beef from other countries who rely on massive farm subsidies to bridge the gap.
It's okay I still eat beef too (but not tuna).
Ssom
10-15-2002, 04:21 AM
Veal is the best my friends :licker: :D
JD@af
10-15-2002, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by replicant_008
Before everyone gets confused with Moppie's comments... grain-fed beef is possibly the most inefficient and unsustainable way of growing protein.Oops. Okay, have to admit that I was just assuming that the reason beef is such a staple is that it was above all else the most sustainable. But, as experience has taught me over and over again, when I assume, I make an ass out of "u," and as usual, "me" :right: Thanks for setting me straight, fellas.
Before everyone gets confused with Moppie's comments... grain-fed beef is possibly the most inefficient and unsustainable way of growing protein.Oops. Okay, have to admit that I was just assuming that the reason beef is such a staple is that it was above all else the most sustainable. But, as experience has taught me over and over again, when I assume, I make an ass out of "u," and as usual, "me" :right: Thanks for setting me straight, fellas.
taranaki
10-15-2002, 08:06 AM
Alas...Iagree with Replicant,venison is overpriced.What makes it worse is that there are feral deer on Mount Taranaki not 20 minutes drive from where I sit,and it's not too hard to get a permit to hunt them...if only I still had a rifle.
As for veal.....nah.Eating bobby calves does not appeal.
As for veal.....nah.Eating bobby calves does not appeal.
NSX-R-SSJ20K
10-15-2002, 08:50 AM
give me a top piece of sirloin anyday
Blazin'Up
10-15-2002, 02:23 PM
My parents have been on a buffalo kick lately. My dad has been getting ground buffalo from a buffalo ranch here in North Dakota. I tried it a couple times when I was at their place for dinner, and I like it. I can't say I like it better than ground beef yet, but it has a good flavor.
I'd really like to try a buffalo steak though. They're more expensive than beef steaks, but I bet they're yummy :licker:
I'd really like to try a buffalo steak though. They're more expensive than beef steaks, but I bet they're yummy :licker:
YogsVR4
10-15-2002, 02:33 PM
I enjoy buffalo as well. Venison rules! Opening day for rifle season here is Nov. 15 and I'm raring to go. Another good tasting meat is osterich. Lean and tastes very much like beef.
Spec2 Girl
10-15-2002, 05:16 PM
I've never tried Buffalo, but Ostrich is pretty good. :licker: I never used to be a fan of Venison until recently when Moon made an awesome Venison dish. :licker:
All the meat we buy is from an organic butcher. The chicken tastes so much better.
All the meat we buy is from an organic butcher. The chicken tastes so much better.
replicant_008
10-15-2002, 05:38 PM
Bobby calves...
Many years ago, Replicant did some consulting work for Dairy Meats (who purchase most of the bobby calves in NZ for veal). He remembers going to visit the MD and being asked if he ate veal or beef and would he be happy to visit a freezing works. Replicant answered that he did and he been to the works at Horotiu before as one of his mates worked there - the MD had a very relieved look on his face and grinned.
Evidently, the two other consultants the firm had sent previously had been a vegan and the other had been a Hindu (who regard cows as being sacred) respectively. Neither ate beef or veal and both had reservations about visiting the works.
Oh the irony...
Many years ago, Replicant did some consulting work for Dairy Meats (who purchase most of the bobby calves in NZ for veal). He remembers going to visit the MD and being asked if he ate veal or beef and would he be happy to visit a freezing works. Replicant answered that he did and he been to the works at Horotiu before as one of his mates worked there - the MD had a very relieved look on his face and grinned.
Evidently, the two other consultants the firm had sent previously had been a vegan and the other had been a Hindu (who regard cows as being sacred) respectively. Neither ate beef or veal and both had reservations about visiting the works.
Oh the irony...
Moppie
10-15-2002, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by replicant_008
Evidently, the two other consultants the firm had sent previously had been a vegan and the other had been a Hindu
ROTFLOL! :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:
That is funny!
I guess your tooth must be better!
Evidently, the two other consultants the firm had sent previously had been a vegan and the other had been a Hindu
ROTFLOL! :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:
That is funny!
I guess your tooth must be better!
replicant_008
10-15-2002, 08:59 PM
Thanks for the best wishes Moppie - yes my tooth is much better today. And I haven't had to use pain relief today which is always better for my general disposition...
:)
Incidentally, I agree ostrich does have a texture and flavor akin to beef as does kangaroo (which is also quite lean and flavorful) esp on the barbie. Crocodile is more like poultry incidentally than beef.
Incidentally, Rep's homemade barbecue marinade recipe:
One large clove of freshly chopped and crushed garlic
Small quantity of finely chopped ginger say a teaspoon
Half a dozen slices of 'bruised' ginger ie crushed with the blade of your knife
One tablespoon of dark soy
One tablespoon of light soy
A couple of teaspoons of Bourbon
Dash of tabasco and Thai Sweet Chili Sauce (to taste)
One teaspoon of sugar
Quantity of freshly ground black pepper
Dash of sesame oil (easy on the sesame oil)
One tablespoon of Extra Virgin Olive Oil
Massage into a sirloin or fillet steak. Cover and leave in the fridge for two to three hours. Turn occasionally.
Bring grille to sizzling hot. Remove steak from marinade, spray a fine mist of olive oil on both sides of meat.
Turn once the blood starts showing thru on the top
I prefer steak rare so once it does the same on the other side once turned, remove from heat and serve.
:)
Incidentally, I agree ostrich does have a texture and flavor akin to beef as does kangaroo (which is also quite lean and flavorful) esp on the barbie. Crocodile is more like poultry incidentally than beef.
Incidentally, Rep's homemade barbecue marinade recipe:
One large clove of freshly chopped and crushed garlic
Small quantity of finely chopped ginger say a teaspoon
Half a dozen slices of 'bruised' ginger ie crushed with the blade of your knife
One tablespoon of dark soy
One tablespoon of light soy
A couple of teaspoons of Bourbon
Dash of tabasco and Thai Sweet Chili Sauce (to taste)
One teaspoon of sugar
Quantity of freshly ground black pepper
Dash of sesame oil (easy on the sesame oil)
One tablespoon of Extra Virgin Olive Oil
Massage into a sirloin or fillet steak. Cover and leave in the fridge for two to three hours. Turn occasionally.
Bring grille to sizzling hot. Remove steak from marinade, spray a fine mist of olive oil on both sides of meat.
Turn once the blood starts showing thru on the top
I prefer steak rare so once it does the same on the other side once turned, remove from heat and serve.
taranaki
10-15-2002, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by replicant_008
Evidently, the two other consultants the firm had sent previously had been a vegan and the other had been a Hindu
Oh the irony...
Ideal consultant material....less is more,and all that.:D
Evidently, the two other consultants the firm had sent previously had been a vegan and the other had been a Hindu
Oh the irony...
Ideal consultant material....less is more,and all that.:D
replicant_008
10-15-2002, 09:37 PM
When I worked in consulting one of my clients explained to me how a lot of folk see consultants...
Definition 1:
A guy who knows every variation of the kama sutra but is still a virgin
Definition 2:
A seagull... someone who dives in, eats your lunch, squawks a lot and then shits on you when they leave
Definition 3:
Someone management spends a fortune on per hour to get them to explain something needs fixing that the staff have been complaining about for some time. Management feel better about the consultant's opinion because it cost them a lot of money so therefore their opinion is that it must be worth something.
Definition 4:
Snake-oil salesman ie they promise to cure all ills, sell you a product and bugger off before you find out it doesn't work
Definition 5:
The hatchet merchants - the folk management send in so they can blame later when after the business has been gutted
Having said that... my client then told me that I was too nice a person to be consulting after I counselled them out of signing up for more work (which was unnecessary for the bucks to be charged) from the firm.
I think he was right because I left soon after to do something completely different.
Definition 1:
A guy who knows every variation of the kama sutra but is still a virgin
Definition 2:
A seagull... someone who dives in, eats your lunch, squawks a lot and then shits on you when they leave
Definition 3:
Someone management spends a fortune on per hour to get them to explain something needs fixing that the staff have been complaining about for some time. Management feel better about the consultant's opinion because it cost them a lot of money so therefore their opinion is that it must be worth something.
Definition 4:
Snake-oil salesman ie they promise to cure all ills, sell you a product and bugger off before you find out it doesn't work
Definition 5:
The hatchet merchants - the folk management send in so they can blame later when after the business has been gutted
Having said that... my client then told me that I was too nice a person to be consulting after I counselled them out of signing up for more work (which was unnecessary for the bucks to be charged) from the firm.
I think he was right because I left soon after to do something completely different.
JD@af
10-16-2002, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by replicant_008
When I worked in consulting one of my clients explained to me how a lot of folk see consultants...
Definition 3:
Someone management spends a fortune on per hour to get them to explain something needs fixing that the staff have been complaining about for some time. Management feel better about the consultant's opinion because it cost them a lot of money so therefore their opinion is that it must be worth something.
OH MAN :D Got a good laugh from the above definitions you listed, Rep, being an employee at an environmental consulting firm myself. I 'd like to think that we have the benefit of the doubt of keeping work on our plates because of definition #3.
Since, at least in Connecticut, keeping many construction and property transfer actions legal (not to mention complying with necessary permitting) requires oversight from a consultant like us, I'd like to think that we are indeed providing a valuable product, and saving our clients from DEP fines and hassles in the long run. But an eye-opening set of “perceptions” :sun:
When I worked in consulting one of my clients explained to me how a lot of folk see consultants...
Definition 3:
Someone management spends a fortune on per hour to get them to explain something needs fixing that the staff have been complaining about for some time. Management feel better about the consultant's opinion because it cost them a lot of money so therefore their opinion is that it must be worth something.
OH MAN :D Got a good laugh from the above definitions you listed, Rep, being an employee at an environmental consulting firm myself. I 'd like to think that we have the benefit of the doubt of keeping work on our plates because of definition #3.
Since, at least in Connecticut, keeping many construction and property transfer actions legal (not to mention complying with necessary permitting) requires oversight from a consultant like us, I'd like to think that we are indeed providing a valuable product, and saving our clients from DEP fines and hassles in the long run. But an eye-opening set of “perceptions” :sun:
Ssom
10-16-2002, 04:46 AM
JD- just an after thought- at first when I saw the thread title I thought you were talking about the place in New York State :finger:
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