McLaren F1 for sale in England

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roger_ph

04-12-2007, 09:38 AM

Hi guys out there,
I am new here (only Erik knows me...) and I would like to let you know, that there is a McLaren F1 for sale in England:
http://classicdriver.de/de/find/4100_results.asp?bsubmit=true&lmanufacturer=10084&lCarID=1746700
I think we will hear more from each other in the future.
Regards Roger

Peloton25

04-12-2007, 09:54 AM

Welcome aboard Roger. Sincere apologies for my lack of response to your last email. :redface: I will put some stuff together for you this weekend.

Great find on the F1. That is chassis #013, fresh from Japan. Looks wonderful out in the sunlight like that! :thumbsup:

Wish we could get hi-res versions of those pictures. :frown:

>8^)
ER

Peloton25

04-12-2007, 10:04 AM

BTW - Is that price for real?!?!?

€1,985,294 EUR = $2,679,501.26 USD :yikes:

>8^)
ER

hurstg01

04-12-2007, 12:46 PM

BeZerK2112

04-12-2007, 12:57 PM

That looks like an amazing car but GOOD HELL THATS A LOT OF MONEY! Cant you buy a Bugatti Veyron for way less then that?!!?

hurstg01

04-12-2007, 01:00 PM

That looks like an amazing car but GOOD HELL THATS A LOT OF MONEY! Cant you buy a Bugatti Veyron for way less then that?!!?
I'd want the non-standard wheels as well as the standard ones too included in the price :wink:
http://img137.imagevenue.com/loc477/th_01112_silver_japan_red_stripe_and_aftermarket_w heels_122_477lo.jpg (http://img137.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=01112_silver_japan_red_stripe_and_af termarket_wheels_122_477lo.jpg) http://img137.imagevenue.com/loc486/th_01119_Jap_F1__unknown_2_122_486lo.jpg (http://img137.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=01119_Jap_F1__unknown_2_122_486lo.jp g) http://img159.imagevenue.com/loc473/th_01124_Jap_F1__unknown_1_122_473lo.jpg (http://img159.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=01124_Jap_F1__unknown_1_122_473lo.jp g) http://img102.imagevenue.com/loc805/th_01128_Jap_F1__unknown_122_805lo.jpg (http://img102.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=01128_Jap_F1__unknown_122_805lo.jpg)

murraydeschot

04-12-2007, 01:05 PM

Cant you buy a Bugatti Veyron for way less then that?!!?

Yes, in answer to your question, you can.

However ... where are you going to stash your luggage/golf clubs/3rd passenger in a Veyron? The answer ... nowhere! An ill-conceived flagship of a multinational corporation(Volkswagen/Audi/Seat/Skoda/Bentley/Lamborhini/Bugatti, etc.) that talks-the-talk but is impotent at walking-the-walk.

hurstg01

04-12-2007, 01:08 PM

An ill-conceived flagship of a multinational corporation(Volkswagen/Audi/Seat/Skoda/Bentley/Lamborhini/Bugatti, etc.) that talks-the-talk but is impotent at walking-the-walk.

I think you meant important, but does it work this way as well? :naughty: (Sorry Mr B :grinyes: )

F1GTRUeno

04-12-2007, 02:11 PM

so this is definitely #013?

carbuilder2002

04-12-2007, 02:14 PM

You are paying way over the odds for the lack of use it has had. Not always a good thing though, lack of use can cause more problems than a well used example. Seems the only guy who has used it is the McLaren service man lol.

hurstg01

04-12-2007, 02:24 PM

so this is definitely #013?

Yeah, Eriks friend was in Japan and visited Bingo Sports showroom in this post (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=4435681&postcount=237) and reported back that the silver F1 with the red door stripe states #013 on the chassis plate

Peloton25

04-12-2007, 03:11 PM

I am also fairly certain I have a chassis plate photo from this car, but if I do I was asked not to share it unfortunately.

Anyway, I have no doubt even without the photographic proof because my roommate got the number right on chassis #063 which was also there and I had not even told him beforehand.

As for Murray's post, I believe impotent was indeed the word he intended to use. :D

>8^)
ER

hurstg01

04-12-2007, 03:16 PM

^^ I have two 'oh-so-nearly' shots
http://img13.imagevenue.com/loc696/th_08969_79_122_696lo.jpg (http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=08969_79_122_696lo.jpg) http://img44.imagevenue.com/loc849/th_08973_90_122_849lo.JPG (http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=08973_90_122_849lo.JPG)

GTI WR6

04-13-2007, 03:53 AM

BTW - Is that price for real?!?!?

€1,985,294 EUR = $2,679,501.26 USD :yikes:

>8^)
ER

I heard that chassis no. 18 in Singapore costs about SGD 3,500,000 = USD 2,308,877.71. But then again, its basically an LM without the badging.

countachal

04-14-2007, 08:48 AM

hurstg01

04-14-2007, 09:13 AM

I'd just like to say a big thank you to hurstg01 for driving me down, and a huge thankyou to the guys at Carrs of Exeter. Very pleasant friendly and accomodating people.Thanks Guys:thumbsup: much appreciated!

^^ you're welcome, it was great to have company for such a long drive (2 1/2 hours each way). We stopped there for about 1 1/2 hours, and i'd like to echo Al's words re the guys who were so accomodating. :cheers: PS Al, you dont hang around do you? I've just come back from the pub and you've posted already!!! :)

PatrickT82

04-14-2007, 10:23 AM

Countachal: you took pics of it??

I'd love to take pictures ot it too!!

Where is that place in the UK? Cool that a Ferrari dealership has an F1 for sale!
How long could it still be there?

How far from London??

I allready emailed those guys. I might go over to the UK next week for this single car:-):-P

hurstg01

04-14-2007, 02:34 PM

First off - its DEFINITELY chassis #013 :)

The Bingosport sticker was still on the car (but didnt stay on for long once pointed out), as was the red stripe (surprisingly not painted on, but a red sticker / wrap) on both doors. Both Sales guys were wondering if the red stripe should stay on the car or not, as their MD (If I remember correctly) thought of taking it off. NO I said, keep it on, that's what makes it more rare compared to the 'oh look another silver one' :wink:

Sorry guys, we aren't allowed to share the pics and out of respect and courtesy to the great Sales staff Al and I are going to honour that request.

One thing I have never noticed on an F1 before, if you sit in the drivers seat and look to the top of the windscreen, between both rear view mirrors is a flap you can pull down to stop glare, a bit like a wide sun visor but in the same material and colour as the headlining.

I don't have a 'recaro' arse, so I found both the passenger and drivers seat a tad 'close for comfort round the bum', but god were they comfy to lean back on when swinging your legs over to sit behind the wheel!!

Once we found how to open the lower rear deck of the engine cover and found the pull toggle for the front bonnet, my memory card was soon full!!! Cue pics of everything open, everything closed, luggage in, luggage out, front, rear, bottom, wheels etc etc etc

It was a great 1 1/2 hours, and I will treasure that time and experience for a long while to come.

Peloton25

04-14-2007, 06:21 PM

Awesome - I am so glad that both of you got 'the experience', even if it didn't include a ride. Pouring over the details on one of these cars is a wonderful experience.

As for this:

One thing I have never noticed on an F1 before, if you sit in the drivers seat and look to the top of the windscreen, between both rear view mirrors is a flap you can pull down to stop glare, a bit like a wide sun visor but in the same material and colour as the headlining.

You'll recall the one in chassis #028 is signed by Michael Andretti, so you have seen it before, but it probably just didn't register. It doesn't show up in many pictures.

>8^)
ER

hurstg01

04-15-2007, 01:09 AM

You'll recall the one in chassis #028 is signed by Michael Andretti, so you have seen it before, but it probably just didn't register. It doesn't show up in many pictures.
>8^)
ER
I remember now -
http://img24.imagevenue.com/loc1024/th_17112_028_33_122_1024lo.jpg (http://img24.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=17112_028_33_122_1024lo.jpg)
We were offered a ride ;) but for a tongue-in cheek £250.00, each, plus VAT, from the smiling salesman :).

murraydeschot

04-15-2007, 04:10 AM

I think you meant important, but does it work this way as well? :naughty: (Sorry Mr B :grinyes: )

I'm a published author in English ... I KNOW what I meant!

PatrickT82

04-15-2007, 02:56 PM

hurstg01

04-15-2007, 03:08 PM

Hurst: do you think they will let me see and photograph it (and I wont post the pics of course then) when I come especially from Holland?!?

Any info if it may enter the FIA GT90s Revival?
maybe in paddock?:P

They thought me and Al were anoraks for coming 2 1/2 hours to see it; god knows what they'd think if you told them you were coming from Holland!! :)
As for the revival, its not a race car so probably not, you may see it in the paddock but only if its sold by then I'd imagine; We were concerned that we might get there after a long journey only to find it either not there or be allowed to take photos for 5 mins; I think mine and Al's small talk with the sales men surprised them with our knowledge of both F1's and of #013 so we chatted with them for a while and then they left us to it.

I do believe we were VERY fortunate to get the access we got.

PatrickT82

04-15-2007, 03:41 PM

I think I'll call them first tomorrow before I go for nothing on tuesday:-)

cabrio92

04-16-2007, 04:23 AM

I am very happy for you guys, really !

What a day I imagine :) Any info on how it arrives there ?

Phil

Peloton25

04-16-2007, 09:31 AM

I heard it flew First Class. ;)

>8^)
ER

hurstg01

04-16-2007, 09:43 AM

Exeter does have an airport, very close to the showroom, but have you seen it!!?? I wouldn't like to fly out of there, let alone fly in a £1.3m supercar!! I bet it was flown to Heathrow from Japan then transported by lorry to Exeter.

On a side note, the salesman said he has a guy, working for the company, whose job is to fly round the world to locate high-end cars. I left my number and contact details just in case he leaves and they are struggling to find a replacement ;)

Carrs have sold an FXX (blue), MC12, multiple Enzos, F40, F50, 288 GTO etc etc.

mini magic

04-16-2007, 11:04 AM

Carrs have sold an FXX (blue)

You sure about that? As far as i know, the owner of the blue FXX is the original owner and that Ferrari will not support any FXX's that are sold on

hurstg01

04-16-2007, 11:14 AM

You sure about that? As far as i know, the owner of the blue FXX is the original owner and that Ferrari will not support any FXX's that are sold on

Thats what the top sales guy said, Al will confirm if need be

cabrio92

04-17-2007, 04:17 AM

Hello,

You don't understood my question and also my english :)
I wonder why, in fact, the car arrives in England, they think to know a potential buyer ?

Phil

hurstg01

04-17-2007, 09:55 AM

looks like someone else went to have a butchers at #013 (http://flickr.com/photos/czd72/sets/72157600083402349/) although its before Al and I went as the front bonnet and rear deck aren't open; the salesmen didnt know how to do it til we showed them!

cabrio92

04-17-2007, 12:34 PM

:(

a luck for him. He looks very happy in the F1...
So, do you think enthusiasts like us can go there too ?

Phil

PatrickT82

04-17-2007, 03:17 PM

I am willing to travel 8 hours (16 hours in total) just for this car!

hurstg01

04-18-2007, 06:08 AM

Hello,

You don't understood my question and also my english :)
I wonder why, in fact, the car arrives in England, they think to know a potential buyer ?

Phil
The top sales guy said he may have a man interested, but he'll have to see. One thing I did find out is that the car didn't come with the non-standard wheels as seen in an earlier post. I did ask if they had the FACOM tool chest that I could photo, but it hadn't arrived yet, nor had the watch (if there was one with this car or the original owner kept it....) nor the golf club bag, but the other F1 luggage was behind the side panels.

PatrickT82

04-18-2007, 07:54 AM

I plan to go there next tuesday (april 24th)

Will it still be there then? I assume so..?

Peloton25

04-18-2007, 09:59 AM

I believe the golf bag was actually optional and didn't come with every car.

Don't ask why there were options on a million dollar car. You'd think they'd even throw in the kitchen sink just to make it complete. :D

>8^)
ER

murraydeschot

04-18-2007, 10:16 AM

You'd think they'd even throw in the kitchen sink just to make it complete. :D

>8^)
ER

I think that may just have gone against Gordon Murray's fanatical weightsaving exercise with the F1 ... unless, of course, they make kitchen sinks in titanium! ;)

hurstg01

04-18-2007, 01:33 PM

I believe the golf bag was actually optional and didn't come with every car.
>8^)
ER
Erik, You are correct, my mistake. A source close to an F1 has emailed me to verify that it was indeed an option, along with the large 'passenger seat' holdall, whereas the other luggage that fit in the side panels are standard.

psych0hans

04-24-2007, 05:54 PM

I saw the car, absolutely loved it, was like a minute away from buying it....

then I woke up :P

countachal

04-26-2007, 08:34 AM

I see the car has been sold, according to their site, i wonder if they got the £1.35 mill they wanted? Patrick you had better check its still there before you drive 12 hours to see it!!!

hurstg01

04-26-2007, 08:36 AM

Blimey, that was quick, thank god you and me went down when we did!!

countachal

04-26-2007, 12:43 PM

Hurstg01 tells me we now have permission to post a few shots so here goes........Enjoy.
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p81/alanwpics/th_IMG_7571.jpg (http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p81/alanwpics/IMG_7571.jpg)http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p81/alanwpics/th_IMG_7554.jpg (http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p81/alanwpics/IMG_7554.jpg)http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p81/alanwpics/th_IMG_7450.jpg (http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p81/alanwpics/IMG_7450.jpg)

hurstg01

04-26-2007, 12:46 PM

countachal

04-26-2007, 12:51 PM

wow hurstg01 you really like the minutiae of the details! :bigthumb:

hurstg01

04-26-2007, 12:54 PM

wow hurstg01 you really like the minutiae of the details! :bigthumb:

I was ALL OVER the car, wasnt I!!! Once again, a big :thumbsup: to the guys at Carrs, we really were treated like car nuts, not a PITA (pain in the a...)

countachal

04-26-2007, 01:01 PM

I was ALL OVER the car, wasnt I!!! Once again, a big :thumbsup: to the guys at Carrs, we really were treated like car nuts, not a PITA (pain in the a...)
did you get a picture of the lever that opened the front bonnet, the one we had a bit of trouble locating?

hurstg01

04-26-2007, 01:06 PM

Yup, you can just see it in the left hand side of this pic - it was a kind of 2 finger pull arrangement
http://img132.imagevenue.com/loc546/th_10635_DSCN2209_122_546lo.JPG (http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=10635_DSCN2209_122_546lo.JPG)
It was located here
http://img125.imagevenue.com/loc1048/th_10865_DSCN2153_122_1048lo.JPG (http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=10865_DSCN2153_122_1048lo.JPG)
under the left hand side digital readout, a little set back.

I dont know what this is. I know it is on the opposite side to the bonnet-pull under the right hand side digital readout here
http://img175.imagevenue.com/loc423/th_10871_DSCN2154_122_423lo.JPG (http://img175.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=10871_DSCN2154_122_423lo.JPG)
but it looks like some kind of card reader....
http://img148.imagevenue.com/loc463/th_10641_DSCN2210_122_463lo.JPG (http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=10641_DSCN2210_122_463lo.JPG)
Anyone have any suggestions?

PatrickT82

04-26-2007, 04:31 PM

when its now sold does anybody know if it still is in the showroom now??

Cause I wanted to go see it on saturday but have to drive 800 km for it!!!

roger_ph

04-27-2007, 01:23 AM

Greg, you really did an excellent job - congratulations. Thank you for sharing!!!
Roger

cabrio92

04-27-2007, 06:25 AM

Bravo !

You made an excellent photo coverage :) I don't remenber which parts these buttons open ?

http://img167.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=07188_DSCN2105_122_526lo.JPG

Thanks
Phil

hurstg01

04-27-2007, 06:47 AM

Bravo !
You made an excellent photo coverage

Cheers Phil!!

I don't remenber which parts these buttons open ?
http://img167.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=07188_DSCN2105_122_526lo.JPG
Thanks
Phil
If its the shot of the E and L buttons, the E opens the engine compartment lid and the L is for that particular sides' luggage opening

Greg, you really did an excellent job - congratulations. Thank you for sharing!!!
Roger
Cheers Roger!!!!

cabrio92

04-27-2007, 07:51 AM

Thanks ;)

So, on the other side, there is only one button ?

Phil

hurstg01

04-27-2007, 10:44 AM

Thanks ;)

So, on the other side, there is only one button ?

Phil

nope, same again, E and L, L for the other side luggage compartment and another E for if they wanted to negotiate the gear lever

hurstg01

04-27-2007, 11:37 AM

Did anyone spot the bubbling at the rear of the car? The salesman said it was due to the heat of the engine....

http://img41.imagevenue.com/loc867/th_91503_DSCN2086_122_867lo.JPG (http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=91503_DSCN2086_122_867lo.JPG) http://img107.imagevenue.com/loc898/th_91767_DSCN2098_122_898lo.JPG (http://img107.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=91767_DSCN2098_122_898lo.JPG)

and a close up

http://img14.imagevenue.com/loc814/th_91656_bubbling_122_814lo.jpg (http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=91656_bubbling_122_814lo.jpg) http://img43.imagevenue.com/loc1178/th_91769_bubbling1_122_1178lo.jpg (http://img43.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=91769_bubbling1_122_1178lo.jpg)

ArchangelGTR

04-27-2007, 12:08 PM

Excellent pics gentlemen. I knew if we were patient, they would permit the photos to be published. Thank you very much for sharing these.

That is an interesting problem. I wonder if we have overlooked this issue on other F1s or is this a singular issue with a possible painting issue from a respray?

PatrickT82

04-27-2007, 02:31 PM

sadly no response so I wont take the risk tomorrow going there.....:(

cabrio92

04-28-2007, 03:23 AM

Thanks again ;)

I don't know why but I like these bubblings surely because we are used to see perfect F1s :)

Phil

PatrickT82

04-28-2007, 01:44 PM

well today I went to see the only orange Jaguar XJR15 in existence!

nice rteplacemtn and even rarer then the F1.

Also saw Spyker C8 Spyder and C8 Laviolette and a yellow (!) 250 GTO!

sorry for offtopic but ths made my day a bit less disappointing:p

carbuilder2002

04-28-2007, 04:46 PM

Had the chance to drive an XJ15 in the early 90's.
Great looking car.
Evil handling.
Sounds stunning.

Le Man

04-29-2007, 07:48 AM

Ace pics Greg and Al :bigthumb:

Cannot wait to see more pics from you guys, go on you know you want to :grinyes:

Many thanks to the guys at Carrs :bigthumb: for allowing you two, to get close up and personal to realize the F1 experience!!

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