Air Force vs. Navy...

What do you guys think about the two? I'm thinking about joining one of them, but I'm not sure. Same policy for education, would be working on jets in either one, pay is pretty much the same, what do you all think? The only difference would maybe be being on a carrier in the ocian or being on a base

Air Force FTW

I am going to tell you this.........
if you don't mind going out to sea for 6+ months a year and working 12+ hours days (depending on which coast, you will make stops in awesome ports if your job quals for sea service)
if you dont want that, join the air force. The navy is not only about jets. We have subs, planes, helicopters, small ships, battleships, carriers, seals, special warfare, marines (don't let them lie to you) and many others. You may end up lucky like me and a buddy of mine (he is in the air force not me) and end up in japan for the next 4 years. Not the japan you see on t.v., but the japan that I am breathing in right now. Some places here make las vegas look like high school.

^Big hell yeah to that!

Also, when youre on the ship for 6 months you get pay that is tax free, probably hazard pay (like right now), sea pay...and if you're married seperation pay.

If you're enlistyed make sure you're on the path to work on jets. 'Cause it ain't like you go in and choose what you want always. They'll try to talk you into wher eyou don't wanna go saying you can switch over at anytime. psh. Ain't so easy so be firm on what you wanna do.

Yeah, I don't really want to be on a ship for that long. When I talked the the Navy recruiter, he told me they have more jets than the Air Force, and that they do more of the runs with the jets, and that the Air Force does more with transportation and stuff like that. He also told me that if I went in to work on jets (Navy), I might also work up on deck, I was guessing maybe something like flight instructor guiding planes? I've been leaning more towards the Air Force. I'm sure if I go that way, I'll probably let my Grandpa down, he is really pushing me towards the Navy.

What he said is true. Navy is more air than the air force is except high up but you gotta earn you're way there. Hm...there was this great special about a man and his jet it wasn't the pilot. it was the mechcanic that worked on it. Very good...

I figured you would have to work to get them...I also saw the Air Force has special vehicle mechanics too, I may go that route instead of jets but I don't know. But I'm now thinking to go Air Force...

one question: why do you want to join a military service?

Imo

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1. Get away from parents for a while, and let them know that I'm not worthless, you've seen some of my previous threads on my parents
2. Learn more self discipline
3. Pay for college and get better schooling

I have been trying to figure this out for a while now, but can't, what does IMO mean? No one that I ask seems to know.

I have been trying to figure this out for a while now, but can't, what does IMO mean? No one that I ask seems to know.


In My Opinion.


IMO :D and from talking with numerous people over the years, the Air Force treats its people much better, and being on a ship for a long period of time can be a real drag.

A'ight, thanks. i don't see how I couldn't have figured that one out...

What he said is true. Navy is more air than the air force is except high up but you gotta earn you're way there. Hm...there was this great special about a man and his jet it wasn't the pilot. it was the mechcanic that worked on it. Very good...Ok, so you are saying the air jobs in the Navy are higher up, or the Air Force?

I believe he's referring to your relative rank

In which branch is what I was asking.

Air force has better bases. Navy has more adventure. You're not stuck on a ship man. You pull into ports and get to party with young foreign chicks while the Marines you dropped in the Middle East sit around doing nothing.

I mean this in the lightest of ways, I respecr the Marines almost joined, but it's still the truth. Known a lot of sailors and friends that went Navy. I have one that's in the air force. Also, you don't neccessarily have to go on ship. Get stationed at an air base. My dad only had sea duty twice in 30yrs. Given it's highly unlikely that'll happen to you or that it's ever happened in the history of the Navy (I don't get how that happened) but don't think of being stuck on a ship.

Like i said, if you are, pay is way better. There's no where to get tax free pay with the air force and only hazard pay if you're...well, I think the threat level is down so no there. You get extra pay on deployment, and well...just extra pay in general. Also look into enlistment bonuses.

Also, you mentioned discipline. Well, that rules out the Air Force all together. Navy will take you a lot farther away from the rents and well school...both pay for that.

My dad is a good recruiter> If you mentioned Army, it'd be a different story but more positive. Air Force has really gone to space now and future development with the minors in their bombers, eagles, etc.

They both told me that Education was exactly the same, so I cant make any decisions there. I guess I'm not sure what the diffferences in what the discipline is. Ive heard great things about both, but more people say they would do Air Force...

People that dont know the military say air force and military brats would say navy or army. at least everytime i brought this up that's how itd go.

if you go outside of education and look at the overall, i think you'll get a better experience from the Navy. i know I would have but my dad even agrees i shsouldnt. i have a insubordinattion problem.

Personally, they all promise you the world and you get shit. You really need to know people that know the system very well to get all the benefits. But to each his own.

because no one's said it yet:

are you sure you really should be joining a miltary service just for the college education?

Hw mentioned something about discipline as well. For only 4yrs, it's not that bad depending on the person. I didn't do it because I have an insubordination problem and I would have thrown down at boot camp I'm sure. I've gotten promoted quickly out here and in the military while you can be granted with higher responsibilities, promotion still can't be as quick and for 4 yrs not worth it in my opinion.

No you don't need to know the system well to get the benefits. Free medical, free lodging, housing allowance if you get one, free food if you stay at the barracks or ship, uniform allowance, and more. While yes you do have to spend some money on uniforms, that's it. Everything ele goes to you but you don't pay rent, utility bills, food (unless you wanna go out), etc. That's why you see these guys driving nice vehicles. Ain't got anything else to spend money on.

BUt still it's not for everyone. i spend about 5yrs debating this really...maybe a little more. Being a military brat it's almost something you have to consider and I decided no. So...it's hard to convince someone either way in such a short time because there's a lot to consider. That's why they tell kids in high school, maybe you can slack your freshman year but come sophomore year, tart thinking about college. there's a lot to consider.

No you don't need to know the system well to get the benefits. Free medical, free lodging, housing allowance if you get one, free food if you stay at the barracks or ship, uniform allowance, and more. While yes you do have to spend some money on uniforms, that's it. Everything ele goes to you but you don't pay rent, utility bills, food (unless you wanna go out), etc. That's why you see these guys driving nice vehicles. Ain't got anything else to spend money on.
If you are overseas (like ahem) ...you earn cola (cost of living allowance).
In a year, I would make and save more money not being in a serious position of authority than A LOT of managers in civillian jobs in the same time period. But, it is not all about money.... its about doing what you like. I like traveling. By the time I am finished, I would have seen more foreign places, heard more sonic booms and met more friends than 98% of the people in the US. If you like to meet people, you will meet people from all over. You might even run into old friends from years back like I did. True some people make more money before joining...BUT like the bold type above says. Also it is not that I don't care for my friends back home, but it gets boring sometimes coming home on leave and my friends are still doing the samething/routines from beforehand. I think to myself, I have been gone all this time and nothing has changed? What a bunch of shitbags. Oh well let me stop because I could go on and on about this.

I am not married and I don't have kids but..........don't let me get started on the allowances you get for being either or both of those. I'll just say it will almost if not double what you will make.

OH I know. Somtimes you have to appeal monetarily because that's what concerns people the most. i would have loved to join and now I'm think I'm mature enough to handle but school is almost out and I actually want to go to this one. Although stupid I might go in afterwards. Idk...

In a year, I would make and save more money not being in a serious position of authority than A LOT of managers in civillian jobs in the same time period.

bear in mind that a lot of civilian "managers" are only glorified grunts with a fancy title.
in the UK at least, a professional qualification pretty much guarantees you a good paying job unless you really are crap with people.
of course, i also realise that my perception of the working world is skewed by the fact that I live and work in the london area.
if i were in bolton, i'm pretty sure my views would be different...

Well, as a career I can tell you this. Navy pays a lot better than it did and my dad retired at 50 after 30yrs making $48000 a year on retirement. Before retirement he was at $92000. I can't even imagine what future E-9's will be making.

Yes, education, discipline, a little money, and personal reasons. I am now looking at a two year term to start, and if I like it, I will go for more. I know about most of the benefits and stuff.

Want to see the world (out a window), get away from the parents, and make some cash.

Truck drivers FTW.

Haha just kidding, join the air force. I was an airforce brat, I considered it but its not what i'd like to do with my life, after being moved around so much as a kid i'd hate the idea of doing the same thing now.

Hw mentioned something about discipline as well. For only 4yrs, it's not that bad depending on the person. I didn't do it because I have an insubordination problem and I would have thrown down at boot camp I'm sure. I've gotten promoted quickly out here and in the military while you can be granted with higher responsibilities, promotion still can't be as quick and for 4 yrs not worth it in my opinion.

No you don't need to know the system well to get the benefits. Free medical, free lodging, housing allowance if you get one, free food if you stay at the barracks or ship, uniform allowance, and more. While yes you do have to spend some money on uniforms, that's it. Everything ele goes to you but you don't pay rent, utility bills, food (unless you wanna go out), etc. That's why you see these guys driving nice vehicles. Ain't got anything else to spend money on.

BUt still it's not for everyone. i spend about 5yrs debating this really...maybe a little more. Being a military brat it's almost something you have to consider and I decided no. So...it's hard to convince someone either way in such a short time because there's a lot to consider. That's why they tell kids in high school, maybe you can slack your freshman year but come sophomore year, tart thinking about college. there's a lot to consider.
There's as a LOT more to the benefits then medical etc.

I'm a military brat, i know, but i'm not gonna list everything.