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Scratch Building: Open Wheeler


jdpkeeper
04-09-2007, 09:39 AM
Ok, me and my two brothers have decided to build a scratch built(mostly) open wheeler, its a 1/24th scale, mix between a f1 and f3 type car.
here are some pic of the rough design.
would love comments and suggestions
thanks

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s16/jdpkeeper/tireandbrakes.jpg


http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s16/jdpkeeper/carplans.jpg



http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s16/jdpkeeper/carbodycomplete.jpg

energon
04-09-2007, 09:58 AM
This belongs in the WIP Motorsports section.

Enzoenvy1
04-09-2007, 10:06 AM
This belongs in the WIP Motorsports section.

Gotta love those replies?!?!?!?!!?

Looks interesting. Blender is a tricky app some times. You might want to widen the front track width. It looks a bit to narrow for the rears to follow. Cool idea though. You guys doing 100% scratch then?! Whatya going to name it?

jdpkeeper
04-09-2007, 10:12 AM
Well, first yes i did relize after posting this it was in the wrong area:banghead:
second, its 3ds max.
thirdly, no its not 100% scratch built, dont have the time, money, or tools to do it. The chasis, body, are defently going to be scratch built, but the motor,and wheels are going to be from either a combo of different models or a mix of pre made and modified. ie the wheels i have are f1 mini-z wheels
the engine will be either a modified viper block or a benz c9 lemans modified motor.
ok, thats all i got for now.
thanks guys

Mr. Me.
04-09-2007, 10:55 AM
Oh, Viper engine will be great!

mike@af
04-09-2007, 12:15 PM
no its not 100% scratch built

Then don't call it scratch built.

jdpkeeper
04-09-2007, 04:48 PM
... scratch built(mostly)
never said it was 100% scratch built :grinno:

Enzoenvy1
04-09-2007, 04:53 PM
Dang, tough crowd on this one!!!! :shakehead

jdpkeeper
04-09-2007, 04:56 PM
HAHA, yeah, oh well...

Anyone have suggestion on making disc breaks from scrach, other then machining, or casting?
thanks

hirofkd
04-09-2007, 09:42 PM
HAHA, yeah, oh well...

Anyone have suggestion on making disc breaks from scrach, other then machining, or casting?
thanks
Laminar styrene. You can make either a rotor or a caliper by stacking cross-sectional patterns.

hompe
04-10-2007, 10:07 AM
Awesome!

mike@af
04-10-2007, 11:39 AM
I've split the posts debating the definition of scratch built to a new thread so this one stays on track. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=692183

mike@af
04-10-2007, 11:55 AM
HAHA, yeah, oh well...

Anyone have suggestion on making disc breaks from scrach, other then machining, or casting?
thanks

Styrene sheet, with styrene strips between the two parts for vented rotors.

Enzoenvy1
04-10-2007, 05:11 PM
This link may not work, but here is a great tutorial for this topic!

http://www.italianhorses.net/Tutorials/BrakeRotors/brakes.htm

jdpkeeper
04-10-2007, 07:19 PM
thanks guys, those are some great suggestions!

jdpkeeper
04-12-2007, 12:26 PM
ok here's an idea i came up with for the brake discs, its two 5/16th washers, and a 5/16 locking washer glued together, im gonna try 1/4 locking washer so the slots meet the edges of the outside two washers better.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s16/jdpkeeper/100_0536.jpg

jdpkeeper
04-13-2007, 09:51 PM
ok here's a little update, bottom plate and chassis frame in progress.
drivers cockpit, and motor.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s16/jdpkeeper/100_2062.jpg


http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s16/jdpkeeper/100_2061.jpg


http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s16/jdpkeeper/100_2060.jpg

Turbokid15
04-15-2007, 07:38 AM
Nice start I want to see more.

gionc
04-15-2007, 10:28 AM
Ok i lurked enough LOL

I don't want to be offensive, so see my comments from the right side. Also I'm not an engineer, anyway I guess to understand something of motorsport at almost 40 years.

It seems you have some scratchbuilding techniques, but the whole project look a bit ad-libbed to me: following my thought

- since 20-25 or more years ago open wheelers have structural monocoques, no matter to think the double weight of a body shell and a frame.

- you love to do a space frame? it's ok! but: from ages engines was used as structural elements, backing sunspensions (rear but not ever LOL). Also side bellys haven't the needs of a frame: you have to place there just radiators/intercoolers.

Sorry for the awful english, it happen more when I'm a bit sick.

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