server and network questions...

I want to set up a file share/dedicated server. what I want to do, is hook it up through an existiing pc. So i have one network allready, and just want to add another pc through mine. From what I understand, its posible, but no one can tell me how or what its called. How would I do this? If anyone is confused on what I'm trying to do, Ill have a pic of the setup later.

Ok, here is a pic of what I want to do...
http://cdx2767.k12.sd.us/Pictures/net1.jpg - maybe copy and paste.
Would I just use a crossover cable to go from pc to server? And then turn on internet sharing?


edit: fixed your code

Does the server have to connect thru your PC?

If you can connect the server directly to your router you can simply enable folder sharing to share files:
1) On your computer called "Server" right click on the folder you want to share
2) Select properties then click the sharing tab
3) Enable sharing and give the folder a share name

Then from your "Other PC" browse the network neighborhood, search the entire network for the PC called "Server" and open it. You should see the shared folder there. You can map a permanent drive to it so you don't have to search every time.

If it asks for a userid and password you must create a user account on "Server" with the same userid and password you use to login to "Other PC".

I'm not sure if a crossover cable and ICS will work, it might. But either way you do it you'll have to enable folder sharing.

I'm assuming all PC's will be running some version of Windows for workstations, not Windows server right? If your "Server" pc is really running Windows server it's a whole different ballgame.

question 1:
do you know what the difference between a server and a regular pc is?

question 1:
do you know what the difference between a server and a regular pc is?

In networking terms a "regular pc" is referred to as a workstation. As I said earlier I assume you're not running any version of Windows server right? Just some version of XP Home or XP Professional?

i was asking him because it would help understand what it is exactly that he wants to do. As you pointed out, if that machine is connected to the router, all he has to do is enable file sharing.

Just wait for Oz to see this thread, but explain again in detail what you want to do.

Does the server have to connect thru your PC? Yes. I can't run a wire from the router to it. And I'm not spending more money for a wireless card.

question 1:
do you know what the difference between a server and a regular pc is?From what I understand a file share/print server, its a computer that allows you to share and print files from many computers. A didicated server alows other people to play a game through it, it hosts a game. Thanks for fixing the code for the pic, what did I do wrong? And it wont be there in a few months cuz I dont know how long myweb site will last, I get it free from the state.

Both computers will be running XP Pro. I want to use it for file sharing and game hosting. Its going to be my old 900MHz PIII. Hopefully it will run ok. Ive got other hard drives than the 120 that was in it, I think 3 total will be installed once set up. Im setting this up next week once I get moved into the other room in my house. I thought file sharing was enabled by default in XP, but I could be wrong. If i were to get internet, how would I do that?

No comment. Anyone who works in IT should be able to work it out.


This is possibly the stupidest thread in the history of the Computers/Electronics/Technology forum.

There are a million resources on the internet you can research yourself.

Fucktard.

No comment. Anyone who works in IT should be able to work it out.


This is possibly the stupidest thread in the history of the Computers/Electronics/Technology forum.

There are a million resources on the internet you can research yourself.

Fucktard.I searched, didnt find much. I don't know a lot about servers and what things like what I'm trying to do would be called. If you have a problem with my posts or questions, don't reply, that simple. I respect that you're a mod, but still, all your posts are mostly negative.

Instead of asking people who know what they're talking about how to do something, you tell us what you want to do then ask why it's all going to shit?

Usually you suggest the least logical method imagineable, that no one has tried or tested before because it's a stupid way to do things. You never show that you've researched anything outside AF, you usually say "I researched it, and it was all crap".

Then there's the fact you've "worked in IT" for several months.

So first you lie to us, then you're so arrogant that you make out that you've already worked out the solution, and you just need a few pointers on implementing it.

What do you expect us to say?

If it was me, I'd probably just plug the file server straight into the router using CAT5 cable.

You fucktard.

Instead of asking people who know what they're talking about how to do something, you tell us what you want to do then ask why it's all going to shit?I'm asking how to do this.

Usually you suggest the least logical method imagineable, that no one has tried or tested before because it's a stupid way to do things. You never show that you've researched anything outside AF, you usually say "I researched it, and it was all crap".I do my researching at school. I never found anything relating too what I am trying to do.

So first you lie to us, then you're so arrogant that you make out that you've already worked out the solution, and you just need a few pointers on implementing it. What? Ok. I'm asking how to set this up. a few people that I have talked to say its possible, they just dont seem to help me much.

If it was me, I'd probably just plug the file server straight into the router using CAT5 cable. I would if my parents would let me and if there wasnt a floor in the way.

You fucktard. How childish. Seriously.

"My parents won't let me"

"A new wireless card costs too much"


:rolleyes:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=internet+connection+sharing

That's how you do it, but it's still a stupid, stupid idea. Your file server will be reliant on your desktop PC.

This thread..



:thumbsup:DELIVERS:thumbsup:

Your file server will be reliant on your desktop PC.

which kinda renders the point of having a dedicated server redundent.
that's I asked if he knew what a "server" is.

If you wanted serious help, you should atleast understand the basics of networking and how things work. That is required before asking questions, so you can ask GOOD questions. Read this page and see if you understand any of it. If you don't...go back to learning the basics.

http://lifehacker.com/software/feature/how-to-set-up-a-personal-home-web-server-124212.php

"My parents won't let me"

"A new wireless card costs too much"


:rolleyes:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=internet+connection+sharing

That's how you do it, but it's still a stupid, stupid idea. Your file server will be reliant on your desktop PC.Ok, first off, I don't know about your parents when you were growing up, but mine are very restrictive, I cant do shit. I have been told by the cops numerous times about having to do what they say, and have almost wound up in juvie just for raising my voice. Once I turn 18 and graduate, so much shit is going to change. As for costs, it's more that I don't want to because I have insurance coming up soon. And as for being a stupid idea, maybe it is, but whats it to you, it's not doing any harm to anyone. I'm doing it to learn a little bit more and because I can. And I may be able to go wired now too, depending on if my mom says yes. I talked to her more about it last night.

If you wanted serious help, you should atleast understand the basics of networking and how things work. That is required before asking questions, so you can ask GOOD questions. Read this page and see if you understand any of it. If you don't...go back to learning the basics.

http://lifehacker.com/software/feature/how-to-set-up-a-personal-home-web-server-124212.phpThat answers a few things. And yes, I do get it. I just may do that for th setup because it looks a bit easier.

Jeez lots of emotion in this thread. Reminds me of "Nick Burns":grinyes:

Easy solution:

Connect everything exactly how you have it in your diagram. Then remove the wireless card from "My PC" and put it in "Server". This way "Server" is no longer reliant on "My PC" because now "Server" is connected directly to the router, and "My PC" is still connected to the network. It's not the ideal way to connect it but you gotta work with what you got.

BTW any shared folder on any pc is visible to all pc's on the same network unless you put security restrictions on it.

I just may do that for th setup because it looks a bit easier.
Your getting confused - setting up a web server is way more complicated than sharing folders.

Oh by the way...YOU'RE WELCOME...lol j/k that was Nick Burns' line on SNL.

Jeez lots of emotion in this thread. Reminds me of "Nick Burns":grinyes:

Easy solution:

Connect everything exactly how you have it in your diagram. Then remove the wireless card from "My PC" and put it in "Server". This way "Server" is no longer reliant on "My PC" because now "Server" is connected directly to the router, and "My PC" is still connected to the network. It's not the ideal way to connect it but you gotta work with what you got.

BTW any shared folder on any pc is visible to all pc's on the same network unless you put security restrictions on it.


Your getting confused - setting up a web server is way more complicated than sharing folders.

Oh by the way...YOU'RE WELCOME...lol j/k that was Nick Burns' line on SNL.Ok, thats more the answer I was looking for. I'm still trying to see if I can go wired now, but if not, Ill go that way. But one more question. I play Halo a lot online, will that do much to the bandwidth while playing online? Because I do get some bad lag sometimes due to the server that my frinds game is hosted through or what ever. Thanks.

Ok, thats more the answer I was looking for. I'm still trying to see if I can go wired now, but if not, Ill go that way. But one more question. I play Halo a lot online, will that do much to the bandwidth while playing online? Because I do get some bad lag sometimes due to the server that my frinds game is hosted through or what ever. Thanks.

Hard to say, it will probably be slow. But they make wireless routers specifically for gaming if you want to spend the money.

Hard to say, it will probably be slow. But they make wireless routers specifically for gaming if you want to spend the money.I dont know if my parents want to buy a new router but they need to soon. Our wireless b keeps messing up on us and is around 2-3 years old, wont let my mom's laptop join wirelessly. But I have no problem except in one game where I cant join online. But I think thats a issue witht the game, I'm going to uninstal and reinstall it. I wouldnt mind the upgrade to g either. Any decent g routers for about the price of a linksys, my mom wont go with them anymore, my parents are anal if they have a problem with things. Im kinda lookin at this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122016 or this one: http://3btech.net/nedwca5480wi.html

i'm currently using this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122124

set up was easy once I got the correct details from my ISP and I even set up the router itself via wifi which isn't recommended (but isn't actually difficult if you can read and follow instructions).
works with my PSP and Wii so far.
haven't tested my other bits and pieces yet.
Printer server is in the post and I don't foresee any problems there.

and mate, the sever set up.
you really are better off not doing it at all and just buying a bigger seconday hard drive for your pc.
ideally a server uses minimal power by only having the essentials on board.
otherwise all you're really doing is making a 300W (or whatever your psu is) hard-drive which I'm sure if your mum thinks about it, probably would be too happy with the extra she'd be paying for the electricity bill.
also, usually, you have the best machine for the server as it is the one doing most of the work.
also (again, in case you missed it) wifi the server.
it's what? a $20/30 card?

Yes I got that, Ill be wifiing the server. Ive already got a linksys wireless g w/ speedbooster card that Ill use, Its currently in my main machine, I havent set up the server yet due to a few things (i just moved rooms and its a pit for the moment and I need a case, but may go caseless). My mom doesnt want to spend much on a wifi router if she can help it. Otherwise I may be buying a new one soon myself.

also, usually, you have the best machine for the server as it is the one doing most of the work.

Drunken monkey I'm sorry if I seem like I'm contradicting you in every thread, I'm not, I swear...I'm just posting my opinions.

But for Doberman's purposes, your best machine should be used for the gaming, and the slowest machine used as your server. Your gaming computer has to process all of the game data as you are playing, that eats up a lot of CPU. Your server only transfers and stores data, it doesn't need many system resources at all. But you should put your fastest hard drive in the server...

...and monkey's idea about putting the second hard drive in your pc is the easiest and quickest solution.

no worries.
by best machine I meant best cpu.
i was under the impression that most of the work needed by games is in graphical processing ability which is down to the graphics card.
if it were me doing something like what he wants, I'd have the best cpu in the server for stability and put money on a good graphics card for the workstation.

but then again, to be honest i'm not sure if he really wants/needs a server or if he's just playing around with what is now an old pc.
to me, as i said, it sounds like he's just going to be making a big, power hungry hard drive.

I'll just say it's a bit hard playing a game that requires a minimum cpu speed of around 1.7 GHz on a 600 MHz computer, although I was running games that required 933 MHz on it ok with a 128 mb video card. Ill be using the 600 for my server and my 2.2 (overclocked 2.42) for my gaming. both have good video cards, at least 128 mb. I will have a 40, 30, and 20 gig hard drives for server for now. Otherwise I have the 40 gig in my gamer right now. I'm mainly playing around with an old pc since I just upgraded. I don't need one, I just want to cuz I can.