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94svt5.0
10-17-2002, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by carrrnuttt
If handbuilt is a money saver, then why are Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Rolls-Royces, Bentleys...to name a few...so damned expensive? It is what adds to their exclusivity. Mass-production was invented to make products CHEAPER. This is one of the reasons why SALEENS are so expensive, if you think about it. Also, the latest Japan-only NSX-R runs the quarter in around mid-to-low 12's. That's with a naturally-aspirated V6...running nearly the same times as a BLOWN V8. Ruminate on that before you start getting back on your soap-box about how awesome the new Cobra is. Of course there is always the price difference...but we are discussing performance here.
I would like to see the '03 Cobra up against the NSX-R at the track...straight-aways or not.
Regardless of the price of the car, since as you said where not talking price. How could it cost more to handbuild then to equip a factory with a full array of specific tooled robots and equipment? If its cheaper for them to hand build rather then eqip a factory, then is it not saving money? Technology and namebrand as well as function and market, dictate price, not so much buliding cost other then to establish a basment for price building. Also, how about we talk about cars for sale in the USA, instead of some car from some country is better then some car somewhere. Who gives a care, you cant buy and drive it here. If you dont like my opinions, dont expect me to like yours.
If handbuilt is a money saver, then why are Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Rolls-Royces, Bentleys...to name a few...so damned expensive? It is what adds to their exclusivity. Mass-production was invented to make products CHEAPER. This is one of the reasons why SALEENS are so expensive, if you think about it. Also, the latest Japan-only NSX-R runs the quarter in around mid-to-low 12's. That's with a naturally-aspirated V6...running nearly the same times as a BLOWN V8. Ruminate on that before you start getting back on your soap-box about how awesome the new Cobra is. Of course there is always the price difference...but we are discussing performance here.
I would like to see the '03 Cobra up against the NSX-R at the track...straight-aways or not.
Regardless of the price of the car, since as you said where not talking price. How could it cost more to handbuild then to equip a factory with a full array of specific tooled robots and equipment? If its cheaper for them to hand build rather then eqip a factory, then is it not saving money? Technology and namebrand as well as function and market, dictate price, not so much buliding cost other then to establish a basment for price building. Also, how about we talk about cars for sale in the USA, instead of some car from some country is better then some car somewhere. Who gives a care, you cant buy and drive it here. If you dont like my opinions, dont expect me to like yours.
carrrnuttt
10-17-2002, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by 94svt5.0
Regardless of the price of the car, since as you said where not talking price. How could it cost more to handbuild then to equip a factory with a full array of specific tooled robots and equipment? If its cheaper for them to hand build rather then eqip a factory, then is it not saving money? Technology and namebrand as well as function and market, dictate price, not so much buliding cost other then to establish a basment for price building. Also, how about we talk about cars for sale in the USA, instead of some car from some country is better then some car somewhere. Who gives a care, you cant buy and drive it here. If you dont like my opinions, dont expect me to like yours.
Well, you talk like the Cobra is the end-all and be-all of cars. If you want to talk about cars sold in the US, let's talk about the new Lancer EVO VIII (VII in Japan) to be sold in the US...a blown 4-banger that will run low 13's and 500-dollar-or-less boost-controller away from running 12's...at a CHEAPER price, and 2 MORE doors than your Mustang...
...with probably a hell-of-a-lot better gas mileage.
I don't mind opinions that support your particular car of choice...it's just that you don't need to be putting down other makes while you're at it...it only makes YOU look bad. The General boys can do it...whay can't you? Shit, even the claimed Redneck can show respect...think about that.
Regardless of the price of the car, since as you said where not talking price. How could it cost more to handbuild then to equip a factory with a full array of specific tooled robots and equipment? If its cheaper for them to hand build rather then eqip a factory, then is it not saving money? Technology and namebrand as well as function and market, dictate price, not so much buliding cost other then to establish a basment for price building. Also, how about we talk about cars for sale in the USA, instead of some car from some country is better then some car somewhere. Who gives a care, you cant buy and drive it here. If you dont like my opinions, dont expect me to like yours.
Well, you talk like the Cobra is the end-all and be-all of cars. If you want to talk about cars sold in the US, let's talk about the new Lancer EVO VIII (VII in Japan) to be sold in the US...a blown 4-banger that will run low 13's and 500-dollar-or-less boost-controller away from running 12's...at a CHEAPER price, and 2 MORE doors than your Mustang...
...with probably a hell-of-a-lot better gas mileage.
I don't mind opinions that support your particular car of choice...it's just that you don't need to be putting down other makes while you're at it...it only makes YOU look bad. The General boys can do it...whay can't you? Shit, even the claimed Redneck can show respect...think about that.
Fly Rice Racer
10-17-2002, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by carrrnuttt
I don't mind opinions that support your particular car of choice...it's just that you don't need to be putting down other makes while you're at it...it only makes YOU look bad.
1, 2, 3. He's out!
It's official, :flamer: 94svt5.0 :rocket: is down for the count!
*roars of applause fill the forum*
I don't mind opinions that support your particular car of choice...it's just that you don't need to be putting down other makes while you're at it...it only makes YOU look bad.
1, 2, 3. He's out!
It's official, :flamer: 94svt5.0 :rocket: is down for the count!
*roars of applause fill the forum*
honda troll
10-17-2002, 11:51 PM
Again, they make 3000+ S2k's a year. IT'S NOT TO SAVE MONEY!!! Get a clue. So you are trying to tell me that they hand build parts of the Z06 to save money? It is for exclusivity, and for the pride and workmanship that goes into a hand built car. Having a hand built car means much better quality control as well. It's easier to check the quality of a car as you hand build it through it's many stages. Rather than trying to check every 10th car on a factory line with machines.
honda troll
10-18-2002, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by jay@af
I do not think the S2000 is fully handmade. I'd believe the engines are, but not the entire car. (Unless you can point me to something stating otherwise... ;)) The production numbers are just too high. Ask and you shall receive. :)
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I do not think the S2000 is fully handmade. I'd believe the engines are, but not the entire car. (Unless you can point me to something stating otherwise... ;)) The production numbers are just too high. Ask and you shall receive. :)
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Jay!
10-18-2002, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by honda troll
Ask and you shall receive. :):eek: :eek: Me likey! :D They must be busy little buggers! :eek:
Ask and you shall receive. :):eek: :eek: Me likey! :D They must be busy little buggers! :eek:
Jay!
10-18-2002, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by 94svt5.0
And to -jay@af If you think the v6 mustangs look anything like the new cobra then you have to be blind or ignorant or maybe both. Different hood, front bumper, back bumper, spoiler, emblems, interior and rims just to name a few differences.Maybe it's just where I live, but 75% of the V6 mustangs already have different/custom hoods, bumpers, spoilers, emblems, etc. (which are not always complimentary to the overall car. :rolleyes: ) They all still look like Mustangs. I never said I woundn't be able to tell the difference, just that it wouldn't be enough of a difference.
And to -jay@af If you think the v6 mustangs look anything like the new cobra then you have to be blind or ignorant or maybe both. Different hood, front bumper, back bumper, spoiler, emblems, interior and rims just to name a few differences.Maybe it's just where I live, but 75% of the V6 mustangs already have different/custom hoods, bumpers, spoilers, emblems, etc. (which are not always complimentary to the overall car. :rolleyes: ) They all still look like Mustangs. I never said I woundn't be able to tell the difference, just that it wouldn't be enough of a difference.
CustomWhips
10-18-2002, 02:08 AM
i hate this freaken thread i wish you guys would pick another one .
inferno
10-18-2002, 03:18 AM
Everytime this thread starts getting back positive, someone has to flare up and start another arguement......I don't want to close this thread, but if it keeps down this path, I will.
CustomWhips
10-18-2002, 03:49 AM
once again i was joking:rolleyes:
i guess its just because i dont own a rsx. wish i did. i really wish i did i love those cars with aftermarket shit on em. they look so freaken bad ass. but bordom kicked in about 3 pages back..
i guess its just because i dont own a rsx. wish i did. i really wish i did i love those cars with aftermarket shit on em. they look so freaken bad ass. but bordom kicked in about 3 pages back..
94svt5.0
10-19-2002, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by carrrnuttt
Well, you talk like the Cobra is the end-all and be-all of cars. If you want to talk about cars sold in the US, let's talk about the new Lancer EVO VIII (VII in Japan) to be sold in the US...a blown 4-banger that will run low 13's and 500-dollar-or-less boost-controller away from running 12's...at a CHEAPER price, and 2 MORE doors than your Mustang...
...with probably a hell-of-a-lot better gas mileage.
I don't mind opinions that support your particular car of choice...it's just that you don't need to be putting down other makes while you're at it...it only makes YOU look bad. The General boys can do it...whay can't you? Shit, even the claimed Redneck can show respect...think about that.
You know carnutt sometimes I forget that only you are allowed to flaunt a particular choice of car, while putting others down. My bad I will try to remember that. About the EVOIII, sounds like its going to be a sweet car, but remeber alot of people dont give a darn about mpg when they buy a car. I know thats hard to understand for a civic driver. I wonder what motivates people to buy exotic cars getting 8 mpg? I bet they think about mpg. Also, are you flaunting 4 doors as a selling point? What are they catering these cars to senoir citizens? Trust me, the only one looking bad is YOU. I show my respect, you ignore it. I have never seen the lack of respect that is generly shown to domestic cars by import drivers. Somwhere along the way they got off thinking there economy cars where king. Going down the street I have stock civics trying to race me, because they read somewhere that mustangs are slow and heavy, and that powerfull economy car will walk it. Its really kind of sad, I see it on the street, in the pages of sport compact magazines and particularly on this board. And people like you carnutt are partly to blame, at least for the atmosphere of this forum. So, you want repsect? learn to give it first. Remember the domestics where here first, they where hopping up American cars back when they where still pedaling bikes in japan.
Well, you talk like the Cobra is the end-all and be-all of cars. If you want to talk about cars sold in the US, let's talk about the new Lancer EVO VIII (VII in Japan) to be sold in the US...a blown 4-banger that will run low 13's and 500-dollar-or-less boost-controller away from running 12's...at a CHEAPER price, and 2 MORE doors than your Mustang...
...with probably a hell-of-a-lot better gas mileage.
I don't mind opinions that support your particular car of choice...it's just that you don't need to be putting down other makes while you're at it...it only makes YOU look bad. The General boys can do it...whay can't you? Shit, even the claimed Redneck can show respect...think about that.
You know carnutt sometimes I forget that only you are allowed to flaunt a particular choice of car, while putting others down. My bad I will try to remember that. About the EVOIII, sounds like its going to be a sweet car, but remeber alot of people dont give a darn about mpg when they buy a car. I know thats hard to understand for a civic driver. I wonder what motivates people to buy exotic cars getting 8 mpg? I bet they think about mpg. Also, are you flaunting 4 doors as a selling point? What are they catering these cars to senoir citizens? Trust me, the only one looking bad is YOU. I show my respect, you ignore it. I have never seen the lack of respect that is generly shown to domestic cars by import drivers. Somwhere along the way they got off thinking there economy cars where king. Going down the street I have stock civics trying to race me, because they read somewhere that mustangs are slow and heavy, and that powerfull economy car will walk it. Its really kind of sad, I see it on the street, in the pages of sport compact magazines and particularly on this board. And people like you carnutt are partly to blame, at least for the atmosphere of this forum. So, you want repsect? learn to give it first. Remember the domestics where here first, they where hopping up American cars back when they where still pedaling bikes in japan.
94svt5.0
10-19-2002, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by jay@af
Maybe it's just where I live, but 75% of the V6 mustangs already have different/custom hoods, bumpers, spoilers, emblems, etc. (which are not always complimentary to the overall car. :rolleyes: ) They all still look like Mustangs. I never said I woundn't be able to tell the difference, just that it wouldn't be enough of a difference.
Hmmm sounds like 90% of the civics around here. Under all that plastic and chrome pipes, theres still just a civic.
Maybe it's just where I live, but 75% of the V6 mustangs already have different/custom hoods, bumpers, spoilers, emblems, etc. (which are not always complimentary to the overall car. :rolleyes: ) They all still look like Mustangs. I never said I woundn't be able to tell the difference, just that it wouldn't be enough of a difference.
Hmmm sounds like 90% of the civics around here. Under all that plastic and chrome pipes, theres still just a civic.
carrrnuttt
10-19-2002, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by 94svt5.0
You know carnutt sometimes I forget that only you are allowed to flaunt a particular choice of car, while putting others down. My bad I will try to remember that. About the EVOIII, sounds like its going to be a sweet car, but remeber alot of people dont give a darn about mpg when they buy a car. I know thats hard to understand for a civic driver. I wonder what motivates people to buy exotic cars getting 8 mpg? I bet they think about mpg. Also, are you flaunting 4 doors as a selling point? What are they catering these cars to senoir citizens?
I was pointing out that the car NOT ONLY kicks ass, but is utilitarian as well. What? Did that hurt your feelings? JEEE-SUS.
Originally posted by 94svt5.0
Trust me, the only one looking bad is YOU. I show my respect, you ignore it. I have never seen the lack of respect that is generly shown to domestic cars by import drivers. Somwhere along the way they got off thinking there economy cars where king. Going down the street I have stock civics trying to race me, because they read somewhere that mustangs are slow and heavy, and that powerfull economy car will walk it.
Two things about this paragraph:
1) Thank you for helping me make my point about putting down other cars. How do you know they weren't provoking you because they loved your car and wanted to see what it could do? I've done it before.
2) What the hell do these morons have to do with me or anybody else in these forums? If you're so damned offended by these punks, then ignore them instead of proving that your car is faster? What? You don't want them thinking that they beat you huh? If it's such common sense that economy cars are slow...as your sarcasm makes a point of...why waste your gas? Oh wait...you don't street-race...you don't bite, right? Then why care? I could attribute the Camaro driver's action last Tuesday(I guess he got offended because I passed him on the freeway on CRUISE CONTROL at 85 and he was going 75...and he HAD to prove that he had the faster car by blasting to about 100MPH and cutting a van off) to domestic drivers being assholes with a need to prove they have enough testosterone...because they don't. You know what? I don't go to the Camaro board saying this shit. I mind my own damned business and even in my own forum, don't say anything about it...it's cool. That was just a random asshole that happened to drive a Camaro. I'm sure he would've done the same thing if he were driving a Honda or Mitsubishi.
Besides who cares?
I guess you do...
Originally posted by 94svt5.0
Its really kind of sad, I see it on the street, in the pages of sport compact magazines and particularly on this board. And people like you carnutt are partly to blame, at least for the atmosphere of this forum. So, you want repsect? learn to give it first. Remember the domestics where here first, they where hopping up American cars back when they where still pedaling bikes in japan.
If you wanna get technical about it, the car was invented by a certain Mr. Daimler, who happens to be from Germany. Uhm, if you take apart your CURRENT car, how many of your electronics do you think will have Japanese names? Also some of your car is assembled in Mexico...Don't talk about american cars, because your's isn't completely one. Just like the people in here with Accords have a car that's built in America themselves.
You must pretty desperate to resort to such rhetorics...:rolleyes:
You know carnutt sometimes I forget that only you are allowed to flaunt a particular choice of car, while putting others down. My bad I will try to remember that. About the EVOIII, sounds like its going to be a sweet car, but remeber alot of people dont give a darn about mpg when they buy a car. I know thats hard to understand for a civic driver. I wonder what motivates people to buy exotic cars getting 8 mpg? I bet they think about mpg. Also, are you flaunting 4 doors as a selling point? What are they catering these cars to senoir citizens?
I was pointing out that the car NOT ONLY kicks ass, but is utilitarian as well. What? Did that hurt your feelings? JEEE-SUS.
Originally posted by 94svt5.0
Trust me, the only one looking bad is YOU. I show my respect, you ignore it. I have never seen the lack of respect that is generly shown to domestic cars by import drivers. Somwhere along the way they got off thinking there economy cars where king. Going down the street I have stock civics trying to race me, because they read somewhere that mustangs are slow and heavy, and that powerfull economy car will walk it.
Two things about this paragraph:
1) Thank you for helping me make my point about putting down other cars. How do you know they weren't provoking you because they loved your car and wanted to see what it could do? I've done it before.
2) What the hell do these morons have to do with me or anybody else in these forums? If you're so damned offended by these punks, then ignore them instead of proving that your car is faster? What? You don't want them thinking that they beat you huh? If it's such common sense that economy cars are slow...as your sarcasm makes a point of...why waste your gas? Oh wait...you don't street-race...you don't bite, right? Then why care? I could attribute the Camaro driver's action last Tuesday(I guess he got offended because I passed him on the freeway on CRUISE CONTROL at 85 and he was going 75...and he HAD to prove that he had the faster car by blasting to about 100MPH and cutting a van off) to domestic drivers being assholes with a need to prove they have enough testosterone...because they don't. You know what? I don't go to the Camaro board saying this shit. I mind my own damned business and even in my own forum, don't say anything about it...it's cool. That was just a random asshole that happened to drive a Camaro. I'm sure he would've done the same thing if he were driving a Honda or Mitsubishi.
Besides who cares?
I guess you do...
Originally posted by 94svt5.0
Its really kind of sad, I see it on the street, in the pages of sport compact magazines and particularly on this board. And people like you carnutt are partly to blame, at least for the atmosphere of this forum. So, you want repsect? learn to give it first. Remember the domestics where here first, they where hopping up American cars back when they where still pedaling bikes in japan.
If you wanna get technical about it, the car was invented by a certain Mr. Daimler, who happens to be from Germany. Uhm, if you take apart your CURRENT car, how many of your electronics do you think will have Japanese names? Also some of your car is assembled in Mexico...Don't talk about american cars, because your's isn't completely one. Just like the people in here with Accords have a car that's built in America themselves.
You must pretty desperate to resort to such rhetorics...:rolleyes:
CustomWhips
10-19-2002, 02:03 AM
:monkeypis :bathroom:
TerminalVelocity
10-19-2002, 07:20 AM
I'd say the biggest reason us domestics come here isnt because its honda, its because it has a racing fourm thats active.
Other than that....SVT, Carnut with alot of extra letters, lets both chill alright? Theres assholes in v-6 mustangs talking of how they can walk those slow [H] S2k's and theres civic punks saying they can walk on those boats known as cobras
You both cool people who know a hell of alot about cars, this isnt even about the race anymore, this is about two people trying to be right, but if both say the other is wrong, then noone is right.
SVT, you know I got your back, and Carrrnnnuuttt we talked and we cool now *I think? :toothless*, but I gotta tell you both i've seen good points outa both of you, SVT your outmatched here because theres alot of those civic punks here *not pointing any fingers* and alof of savy [H] owners.
I personally dont like the S2k...yes...its great that it was hand built....
same with NSX
Our Cobra R was I believe 90% hand built, just the same as the others. Engines hand built, pannels put on by hand, even the lug nuts tightened by hand.
These are all sweet machines, can we at least agree on that?
I'm exculding the lancer here because you can go on forever bringing up car after car to beat other cars, i'm just tryin to stop the hatin and maby create some peace before somethin bad happens, like carnutt having a heart attack :p or SVT gettin baned.
My 302 cents... :bandit:
Other than that....SVT, Carnut with alot of extra letters, lets both chill alright? Theres assholes in v-6 mustangs talking of how they can walk those slow [H] S2k's and theres civic punks saying they can walk on those boats known as cobras
You both cool people who know a hell of alot about cars, this isnt even about the race anymore, this is about two people trying to be right, but if both say the other is wrong, then noone is right.
SVT, you know I got your back, and Carrrnnnuuttt we talked and we cool now *I think? :toothless*, but I gotta tell you both i've seen good points outa both of you, SVT your outmatched here because theres alot of those civic punks here *not pointing any fingers* and alof of savy [H] owners.
I personally dont like the S2k...yes...its great that it was hand built....
same with NSX
Our Cobra R was I believe 90% hand built, just the same as the others. Engines hand built, pannels put on by hand, even the lug nuts tightened by hand.
These are all sweet machines, can we at least agree on that?
I'm exculding the lancer here because you can go on forever bringing up car after car to beat other cars, i'm just tryin to stop the hatin and maby create some peace before somethin bad happens, like carnutt having a heart attack :p or SVT gettin baned.
My 302 cents... :bandit:
94svt5.0
10-19-2002, 10:50 AM
Okay, Ill let it go, (even all those ignorant comments by carrnutt) had to add that.
Fly Rice Racer
10-19-2002, 11:12 AM
94svt5.0 you are such an ass. It's you who is giving Mustang owners a bad name. You attitude is horrible.
We don't mind any domestics coming to talk in this forum, BUT YOU.
Go back to where you came from at sense you can't seem to play nice.
I don't know who you are trying to fool anyways. Everyone in the world knows that Mustangs are not the fastest car in the world so why are you even acting like it? Just like everyone knows that Honda's are not the fastest car in the world.
Your word is no longer good in this forum.
We don't mind any domestics coming to talk in this forum, BUT YOU.
Go back to where you came from at sense you can't seem to play nice.
I don't know who you are trying to fool anyways. Everyone in the world knows that Mustangs are not the fastest car in the world so why are you even acting like it? Just like everyone knows that Honda's are not the fastest car in the world.
Your word is no longer good in this forum.
94svt5.0
10-19-2002, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Fly Rice Racer
94svt5.0 you are such an ass. It's you who is giving Mustang owners a bad name. You attitude is horrible.
We don't mind any domestics coming to talk in this forum, BUT YOU.
Go back to where you came from at sense you can't seem to play nice.
I don't know who you are trying to fool anyways. Everyone in the world knows that Mustangs are not the fastest car in the world so why are you even acting like it? Just like everyone knows that Honda's are not the fastest car in the world.
Your word is no longer good in this forum.
My bad, didnt know you where the master of all. Actually, from now on YOUR word is not good in this forum:rolleyes: By the way, I have never stated mustangs are faster then all, stock to stock faster then a civic, yes, but duh! who dosent know that. There is always something faster, find where I said mustangs are the fastest thing out there, granted the 03 cobra is faster then alot of stuff.
94svt5.0 you are such an ass. It's you who is giving Mustang owners a bad name. You attitude is horrible.
We don't mind any domestics coming to talk in this forum, BUT YOU.
Go back to where you came from at sense you can't seem to play nice.
I don't know who you are trying to fool anyways. Everyone in the world knows that Mustangs are not the fastest car in the world so why are you even acting like it? Just like everyone knows that Honda's are not the fastest car in the world.
Your word is no longer good in this forum.
My bad, didnt know you where the master of all. Actually, from now on YOUR word is not good in this forum:rolleyes: By the way, I have never stated mustangs are faster then all, stock to stock faster then a civic, yes, but duh! who dosent know that. There is always something faster, find where I said mustangs are the fastest thing out there, granted the 03 cobra is faster then alot of stuff.
inferno
10-19-2002, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
Our Cobra R was I believe 90% hand built, just the same as the others. Engines hand built, pannels put on by hand, even the lug nuts tightened by hand.
Ummmm, I hate to say it, but I PRAY that the lug nuts weren't tightened by hand. Then again, most of the Cobra R's were bought by collectors and won't see the road or track at all so maybe that does make sense.....:p:p:p
As to this stupid pissing contest between the domestic and import owners, both sides continue to instigate things. What it all boils down to is choice. You drive the vehicle because of your own personal preference and to talk down about someone else's choice is just plain stupid. You guys can go back and forth forever and neither side will ever budge, so why even bother? There is no need to respond to what I just said...just do it please. Thank you for your time.
Our Cobra R was I believe 90% hand built, just the same as the others. Engines hand built, pannels put on by hand, even the lug nuts tightened by hand.
Ummmm, I hate to say it, but I PRAY that the lug nuts weren't tightened by hand. Then again, most of the Cobra R's were bought by collectors and won't see the road or track at all so maybe that does make sense.....:p:p:p
As to this stupid pissing contest between the domestic and import owners, both sides continue to instigate things. What it all boils down to is choice. You drive the vehicle because of your own personal preference and to talk down about someone else's choice is just plain stupid. You guys can go back and forth forever and neither side will ever budge, so why even bother? There is no need to respond to what I just said...just do it please. Thank you for your time.
CustomWhips
10-19-2002, 02:49 PM
inlightening
noble blood is within that one
but mustangs i still thing are terribly uggly. ive seen one that was so freaken tight.
silver GT with turbo exaust topless with some phat rims dropped perfectly.
that was an amazing site.
he squeeled second without even tryen i was like damn.
noble blood is within that one
but mustangs i still thing are terribly uggly. ive seen one that was so freaken tight.
silver GT with turbo exaust topless with some phat rims dropped perfectly.
that was an amazing site.
he squeeled second without even tryen i was like damn.
Fly Rice Racer
10-19-2002, 02:50 PM
End this post then. We aren't even on topic anymore. This will force us to find some other racing stories.
94svt5.0
10-19-2002, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by Fly Rice Racer
End this post then. We aren't even on topic anymore. This will force us to find some other racing stories.
Why end it, unless your wanting the last word in.
End this post then. We aren't even on topic anymore. This will force us to find some other racing stories.
Why end it, unless your wanting the last word in.
CustomWhips
10-19-2002, 04:55 PM
Thats what its allllll about. getting the last word :rolleyes:
close it now. (hopes for last post):D
close it now. (hopes for last post):D
Fly Rice Racer
10-20-2002, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by 94svt5.0
Why end it, unless your wanting the last word in.
Grow up.
Ok moderator wait until 94svt5.0 posts another reply in this thread then close it. I wouldn't want it to be unfair to the baby to not get the last word in.
It's all yours 94svt5.0.
Why end it, unless your wanting the last word in.
Grow up.
Ok moderator wait until 94svt5.0 posts another reply in this thread then close it. I wouldn't want it to be unfair to the baby to not get the last word in.
It's all yours 94svt5.0.
94svt5.0
10-20-2002, 09:35 AM
Okay here it goes. Honads suck hondas suck. :D All right moderator shut it down. Before I get clobbered for that, I do think hondas have there place, actually I have a 1991 honda civic as a second car.
kidrocket
10-20-2002, 12:25 PM
a twin turbo setup for 17grand?
id kinda like to see a pic of that...
id kinda like to see a pic of that...
carrrnuttt
10-20-2002, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by 94svt5.0
Okay, Ill let it go, (even all those ignorant comments by carrnutt) had to add that.
If I am as ignorant as you seem to want to believe I am, I wouldn't even engage in a discussion with you and just straight ban you. If you REALLY want ignorant, I'll show you ignorant.
Besides, if I'm the ignorant one, why haven't you even come close to giving an intelligent reply to my posts?...besides calling out Honda and compact drivers as being ignorant themselves for trying to race you, and saying for them to shut-up and respect you for having an "American" car...
...THAT sounds pretty ignorant to me.
Do NOT resort to name calling if you can't face the names other people call you.
Okay, Ill let it go, (even all those ignorant comments by carrnutt) had to add that.
If I am as ignorant as you seem to want to believe I am, I wouldn't even engage in a discussion with you and just straight ban you. If you REALLY want ignorant, I'll show you ignorant.
Besides, if I'm the ignorant one, why haven't you even come close to giving an intelligent reply to my posts?...besides calling out Honda and compact drivers as being ignorant themselves for trying to race you, and saying for them to shut-up and respect you for having an "American" car...
...THAT sounds pretty ignorant to me.
Do NOT resort to name calling if you can't face the names other people call you.
CustomWhips
10-20-2002, 11:47 PM
94svt5.0 you are acting like a punk. punks are most likley bitches in real life. so do everyone a favor and fuck off .
did you reopen this stupid thread its gone on wayyyyy long enough freaken close the shit pleaseeeeee
did you reopen this stupid thread its gone on wayyyyy long enough freaken close the shit pleaseeeeee
TerminalVelocity
10-21-2002, 05:01 AM
ok, carnuttt, your post was chill, you made a related comment to 94's post, but what the fuck with everyone elses shit jumpin on him?
This is why I despise alot of civic owners :rolleyes: They dont know shit about cars and are given a car by mommy and daddy, so they use their paychecks from McDonalds to put on 2 rims and a front air dam and a wing, both unpainted, neather one going with the curves of the car *ie boxy look with a smothe curve car*
This weekend, at the races
about 20 civics, done up like shit, horrable and made me gag, all claiming to run 11's and 10's etc on STOCK engines with cold air intake
Then, this amazing civic nice body mods, carbon fiber hood with wing, a -REAL-turbo you could hear spooling as he slowly rolled through, a well built engine with mass work done to it, beautiful interior, a color blue which made me just grin with envy, and lowered, but for performance, not style. He checked out my car, and complimented me, asked me what I ran, and complimented it etc, so think about that.
This guy got my respect, so did his civic.
I made a joke of slow civics to one guy, he made a joke of heavy ass domestics.
If you want to mess around just joke
if you want to talk shit USE FACTS....Carrnutt, your moderator, and your leader here *one of the two* USES FACTS, and wins arguments, or at least gets respect if nothing else.
All this "your a punk, your an ass" WELL GUESS WHAT? YOU ARE TOO BY SAYING THAT!
If hes such an ass, the mods will deal with him, by talking, or if nessary banning.
Me and Carrnutt had a talk, hence why I toned it down, I show respect for the fast hondas, the good looking hondas, and the econo hondas, each respectivly. And I show respect to carrnutt, because he showed me he knows his shit.
But this your a punk crap isnt cool, its high school bullshit, and it has no meaning other than showing you dont know shit about cars and have to resort to flinging mud.
so eather start using facts, or dont expect honda bashing to end, or domestic guys being assholes.
[quote]origionally by infernoAs to this stupid pissing contest between the domestic and import owners, both sides continue to instigate things. What it all boils down to is choice. You drive the vehicle because of your own personal preference and to talk down about someone else's choice is just plain stupid. You guys can go back and forth forever and neither side will ever budge, so why even bother? [quote]
READ THIS EVERYONE! This man speeks truth, LEARN FROM IT!
Mods, I ask you all to shut this down, its gone on long enough, and any and I mean ANY thread where your flock starts talking shit without facts, it might as well be post whoring, so please shut those threads down too, it has nothing to do with racing at that point and can easly be taken to OT so might as well not be here.
This is why I despise alot of civic owners :rolleyes: They dont know shit about cars and are given a car by mommy and daddy, so they use their paychecks from McDonalds to put on 2 rims and a front air dam and a wing, both unpainted, neather one going with the curves of the car *ie boxy look with a smothe curve car*
This weekend, at the races
about 20 civics, done up like shit, horrable and made me gag, all claiming to run 11's and 10's etc on STOCK engines with cold air intake
Then, this amazing civic nice body mods, carbon fiber hood with wing, a -REAL-turbo you could hear spooling as he slowly rolled through, a well built engine with mass work done to it, beautiful interior, a color blue which made me just grin with envy, and lowered, but for performance, not style. He checked out my car, and complimented me, asked me what I ran, and complimented it etc, so think about that.
This guy got my respect, so did his civic.
I made a joke of slow civics to one guy, he made a joke of heavy ass domestics.
If you want to mess around just joke
if you want to talk shit USE FACTS....Carrnutt, your moderator, and your leader here *one of the two* USES FACTS, and wins arguments, or at least gets respect if nothing else.
All this "your a punk, your an ass" WELL GUESS WHAT? YOU ARE TOO BY SAYING THAT!
If hes such an ass, the mods will deal with him, by talking, or if nessary banning.
Me and Carrnutt had a talk, hence why I toned it down, I show respect for the fast hondas, the good looking hondas, and the econo hondas, each respectivly. And I show respect to carrnutt, because he showed me he knows his shit.
But this your a punk crap isnt cool, its high school bullshit, and it has no meaning other than showing you dont know shit about cars and have to resort to flinging mud.
so eather start using facts, or dont expect honda bashing to end, or domestic guys being assholes.
[quote]origionally by infernoAs to this stupid pissing contest between the domestic and import owners, both sides continue to instigate things. What it all boils down to is choice. You drive the vehicle because of your own personal preference and to talk down about someone else's choice is just plain stupid. You guys can go back and forth forever and neither side will ever budge, so why even bother? [quote]
READ THIS EVERYONE! This man speeks truth, LEARN FROM IT!
Mods, I ask you all to shut this down, its gone on long enough, and any and I mean ANY thread where your flock starts talking shit without facts, it might as well be post whoring, so please shut those threads down too, it has nothing to do with racing at that point and can easly be taken to OT so might as well not be here.
Fly Rice Racer
10-21-2002, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by TerminalVelocity
ok, carnuttt, your post was chill, you made a related comment to 94's post, but what the fuck with everyone elses shit jumpin on him?
This is why I despise alot of civic owners :rolleyes: They dont know shit about cars and are given a car by mommy and daddy, so they use their paychecks from McDonalds to put on 2 rims and a front air dam and a wing, both unpainted, neather one going with the curves of the car *ie boxy look with a smothe curve car*
If you want to mess around just joke
if you want to talk shit USE FACTS
so eather start using facts, or dont expect honda bashing to end, or domestic guys being assholes.
Everyone is jumpnig on him cause we are tired of his shit. And now you jump in and start stereotyping import owners. I thought you were better than that. I bought my car by myself, every piece of equipment that is be modified is being done by me, and it's all being done right with no cheaping out.
So you need to use facts and stop assuming that you know us.
ok, carnuttt, your post was chill, you made a related comment to 94's post, but what the fuck with everyone elses shit jumpin on him?
This is why I despise alot of civic owners :rolleyes: They dont know shit about cars and are given a car by mommy and daddy, so they use their paychecks from McDonalds to put on 2 rims and a front air dam and a wing, both unpainted, neather one going with the curves of the car *ie boxy look with a smothe curve car*
If you want to mess around just joke
if you want to talk shit USE FACTS
so eather start using facts, or dont expect honda bashing to end, or domestic guys being assholes.
Everyone is jumpnig on him cause we are tired of his shit. And now you jump in and start stereotyping import owners. I thought you were better than that. I bought my car by myself, every piece of equipment that is be modified is being done by me, and it's all being done right with no cheaping out.
So you need to use facts and stop assuming that you know us.
hybridsol
10-21-2002, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by 94svt5.0
I am sure the NSX handles nice, but there just not that fast.
obviously you have never raced one?
Valvetrain 24-valve DOHC VTEC Compression Ratio of 10.2:1
Fuel and Induction System Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI) with Variable Volume Induction System (VVIS)
Cylinder Heads Aluminum alloy (light weight)
Connecting Rods Titanium alloy and reiforcement
Engine Type V-6
NSX 3.2: Aluminum alloy with fiber-reinforced metal (FRM) cylinder liners.
Horsepower @ rpm 3.2: 290 @ 7100
Bore and Stroke 3.2: 3.66 in. x 3.07 in.
Torque (lb.-ft. @ rpm) 3.2: 224 @ 5500
Redline NSX 3.2: 8000 rpm
Displacement 3.2: 3.2 liters (3179 cc)
arh arh agrh.......thats a car...... and it weighs in at about the same weight as a integra.
Even with an rsx type S with N2o I find this hard to believe, 220 hp plus an extra lets say (50 shot of N2o) and he's still gonna clobber you. Sometimes its just the driver. Evidently you can drive really really well!
I am sure the NSX handles nice, but there just not that fast.
obviously you have never raced one?
Valvetrain 24-valve DOHC VTEC Compression Ratio of 10.2:1
Fuel and Induction System Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI) with Variable Volume Induction System (VVIS)
Cylinder Heads Aluminum alloy (light weight)
Connecting Rods Titanium alloy and reiforcement
Engine Type V-6
NSX 3.2: Aluminum alloy with fiber-reinforced metal (FRM) cylinder liners.
Horsepower @ rpm 3.2: 290 @ 7100
Bore and Stroke 3.2: 3.66 in. x 3.07 in.
Torque (lb.-ft. @ rpm) 3.2: 224 @ 5500
Redline NSX 3.2: 8000 rpm
Displacement 3.2: 3.2 liters (3179 cc)
arh arh agrh.......thats a car...... and it weighs in at about the same weight as a integra.
Even with an rsx type S with N2o I find this hard to believe, 220 hp plus an extra lets say (50 shot of N2o) and he's still gonna clobber you. Sometimes its just the driver. Evidently you can drive really really well!
inferno
10-21-2002, 12:47 PM
I closed this thread once...I am about to close it again. If you open it again carrrnuttt, I will be forced to delete the whole thread. It seems that a few people need to get a dose of maturity....and not just the domestic visitors. Thread closed.....AGAIN.
carrrnuttt
10-21-2002, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by inferno
I closed this thread once...I am about to close it again. If you open it again carrrnuttt, I will be forced to delete the whole thread. It seems that a few people need to get a dose of maturity....and not just the domestic visitors. Thread closed.....AGAIN.
I PM'd you right before I re-opened it as to my reason. Apparently you never got it.
Don't worry, it stays closed this time...
PM me if you have any questions.
I closed this thread once...I am about to close it again. If you open it again carrrnuttt, I will be forced to delete the whole thread. It seems that a few people need to get a dose of maturity....and not just the domestic visitors. Thread closed.....AGAIN.
I PM'd you right before I re-opened it as to my reason. Apparently you never got it.
Don't worry, it stays closed this time...
PM me if you have any questions.
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