mustang Horse Power

anyone know what the most HP you can put in a GT mustang? I am looking at putting a 1400 hp engine in and dont know if it will fit.

chris

07' Mustang

Well not to be rude here but from what you posted in here I'm calling BS. Your "statement" was completely clueless. You want to know how much power you can "put in" a Mustang GT. Hell it wouldnt matter if it was a Mustang LX you could still build it the same as you could a GT. Its not like you can only give it a certain amount of power just because its a Mustang GT. Next, you claim to have a 1400hp motor to drop in a car. Well you can drop just about any motor in just about any car. Also I highley doubt that you have this "1400hp motor". If you did you wouldnt be asking if it would fit. If you did have such motor and still asked if it would fit in a "Mustang GT" you would tell us what motor it is. I'm gonna stop this now because its foolish. If you want to learn then ask, dont make claims that dont exist.
But, dont take me wrong I'm not saying you cant have a Mustang GT with 1400hp. I know of lots guys with mustangs making power anywhere from 450hp to 2200hp.

Well I didn't say I had the motor to put in it. I just said I was LOOKING at putting in a 1400hp engine that I MAY buy from a company when I get the car. I am getting this car around the first of april and I am LEARNing about performance cars. So it was just a question on how much power a car like that could handle. I am new to all this and would like advice on this please, NOT smartass remarks.

My main thing I want to do with this car is turn it in to a street legal performance car. So I really don't know what is good and bad to do.

Shit, you could put a jet engine in it if you wanted to.

As far as your question, you need to clarify what exactly you are looking to do. Sure, you could drop pretty much any motor and make it fit. That answers your initial question.
Other variations of your question could be
How much can the stock motor handle?
How much can the tranny/drivetrain handle before breaking?

:iamwithst

Thanks for the help. well if you want to know my first plan, it was to take a stock GT and turn it in to a Shelby GT500+, like the car from gone in 60secs (sorry proud fan of Eleanor I know over used). Just new school style, so I thought of the 07' mustang and get it redone all custom. WCC would do the body, and was thinking about a saleen, but want something more powerful. so I am still up in the air about the work that needs to be done. Any help or ideas would be great. Like I said I am real new to engines, I am a car audio kind of guy.

and if anything needs to be replace do to new part because it can't handle it will be replaced.

ALL custom!

In that case it sounds like you will need to replace alot. Figure out your budget and what you want to do. The cosmetics will be expensive. Also if you want a kickass huge power motor go give Steve Morris $30k, he build some of the very best.

that was the company I was thinking about using, they want $28,900 for a 1400hp. He also had a 1000hp for 24,900

do you all think that 800 to 1000hp car could be a daily drivers car?

anyone know what the most HP you can put in a GT mustang? I am looking at putting a 1400 hp engine in and dont know if it will fit.

chris

07' Mustang

honestly... you have an 07 GT... not a 69 GT... drop this motor swap BS.....

get a full bullitt shortblock.... good for about 1,500 RWHP if not more

pop a twin screw on the top of some custom milled heads and a cam ground for your setup.... after that, usual basic breather mods and about 30 PSI and a perfect dyno tune.....

seriously dude... 1,400 hp? lol good luck streeting that

and another thing.... if you want to be like eleanor..... swapping a random engine isn't the way to do it... might as well buy the new GT500 for the kind of work an engine swap will take on a S197... and another thing... the car had a 427 cobra jet.... apples to oranges man

do you all think that 800 to 1000hp car could be a daily drivers car?

yes... but granted alot of work with what your talking about.... better to start with a better platform my friend... 3v is a good motor... but everything around it screams caveman... with the prices your flinging around so freely buy a new GT500 and do the 2.8H Kenne bell swap.... you'll have your 800 RWHP for 5 grand after the price of the car

Thanks for the help. well if you want to know my first plan, it was to take a stock GT and turn it in to a Shelby GT500+, like the car from gone in 60secs (sorry proud fan of Eleanor I know over used). Just new school style, so I thought of the 07' mustang and get it redone all custom. WCC would do the body, and was thinking about a saleen, but want something more powerful. so I am still up in the air about the work that needs to be done. Any help or ideas would be great. Like I said I am real new to engines, I am a car audio kind of guy.

Dude, they make an 'Eleanor' body kit for the new mustangs. And it looks nothing like the new GT500 mustangs. So the look you were going for and the look you would wind up with would be completely different. My friend has the Eleanor body kit on his 06 GT, custom paint too. But he went with a different hood.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/2341000-2341999/2341272_23_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/2341000-2341999/2341272_22_full.jpg

do you all think that 800 to 1000hp car could be a daily drivers car?

Sure you could drive a 1000hp car every day. But, it just wouldnt be real driver friendly. Last summer when I had the blower on my car it drove great, just like a stock car...but then pulling out into traffic could be tricky. Making a 90* turn from a dead stop into 45mph traffic with a possitive traction rearend (spool), lets just say it can get interesting. So to answere your question you need to ask yourself just how "driver friendly" you want the car to be. My car is a great street car but at the same time its like a wild animal, they can turn around on you at any time. That was in my lightweight coupe with the numbers in my sig.

If you want the new body style though I'd suggest keeping the mod motor as mentioned. Also for a little better streetability I'd suggest a turbo,instead of gobs of torque right off idle with a roots style blower. I am currently making the blower to turbo swap myself because I want my car to be kinda quiet. The scream of a blower was just not something I wanted to listen to while sitting in traffic.
Keep in mind though, you start with building the motor, then you gotta upgrade the fuel system, trans, driveshaft & rear, chassis, ect ect.

I'd suggest a turbo,instead of gobs of torque right off idle with a roots style blower.

or a centrifugal like you have..... either or...

The scream of a blower was just not something I wanted to listen to while sitting in traffic.


if a twin screw screams in traffic... that's some fast ass traffic

if a centrifugal screams in traffic.... that's a loud ass centrifugal

A centri blower will scream at idle. I idled my car at 800rpms with the blower and you had to scream over it when the hood was off. Generally the lower you idle your motor with a centri blower the louder it will be at idle.
Maybe the twin screws dont scream at idle, I dont have any personal experience with them. I do know that for the money I'd rather have a centri blower or turbo. $5k for the KB blower mentioned, or a $5k turbo kit or centri blower kit. For $5k you can get a ProCharger F2, or a turbo kit like mine with an even bigger turbo to make similiar power. I bought a PT76GTSHP turbo, good for about 1250bhp. Either of the two I mentioned will take you into the 8's in the 1/4 mile, if you have the rest of your shit together. The big ProCharger is good for 7's and with a turbo upgrade to my kit I could make the same kinda power..if I had the rest of my shit together :lol: .

I think a bored/stroked 3v with a F2 would be a badass, but the noise would be too overwhelming on the street for me personally. So swap the F2 for a PT101 or similiar with full exhaust and hang on. Just keep the throttle action light. Some people love the whine of a blower, its just too loud for my taste.

To be completely honest with you though, and no offense intended to the thread starter..you may wanna start with a little less. Thats why I bought an S-trim before a big turbo..the torque curve was more street friendly, and it was cheaper. The power and torque added by boost is addictive. But if your not used to it and dont know what to expect it will kick your ass. I'd just hate to see you god forbid loose control of a car like you are talking about. Maybe you would be interested in starting off with a Vortech SQ-trim centri blower and 6-7psi or whatever the "stock" setting is. The SQ is supposed to be much more quiet, also it is a great entry level blower. Just a suggestion from someone who has been there, the S series blower are great for a first taste of boost. I was shocked when I took my car for the first ride under boost. :smokin:

It's been a long time since I've heard Hot Rod Lincoln.

1400 horsepower is not street legal.

1400 horsepower is not street legal.

Sure it is :iceslolan . Just dont tell anyone.

Sure it is :iceslolan . Just dont tell anyone.

Yeah, cause the cage and wheelie bars and 15" wide-tires aren't a give-away.

It's been a long time since I've heard Hot Rod Lincoln.

I've got a 75 shot 05 lincoln LS tuned with alternative auto... it's a nice little 4,000lbs. mid 13 second go getter... not the fastest... but it suprises people :iceslolan

thanks all i did not see this coming at all, did not realize how stupid i am when it came to engines till now. thanks. guess i will start with looking at buying a gt 500 then and put that supercharger on it and go from there. thanks again for the help and i will be back with more questions later if you all dont mind. and hopefully photos of my new car.

by the way do you know where you friend got the eleanor kit form? I was looking at getting West Coast Custom to do the body for me.

thanks all i did not see this coming at all, did not realize how stupid i am when it came to engines till now. thanks. guess i will start with looking at buying a gt 500 then and put that supercharger on it and go from there. thanks again for the help and i will be back with more questions later if you all dont mind. and hopefully photos of my new car.

don't forget... the GT500 is already supercharged... so you will just have to swap out the main supercharger core,, which is a whole 3 grand at most... at least it was for a 2.6... I would go with the 2.8H kit... but I'm not sure how much they are, as they are fairly new

KB is asking for $5500 for a,

TS1000-99-BK KIT 120 5499.00 9-25 PSI KIT W/AC ('99 UP 4.6 MUSTANG 2V) INTERCOOLED INCLUDES BOOST-A-PUMP ("TUNER KIT") 2.6L

KB is asking for $5500 for a,

TS1000-99-BK KIT 120 5499.00 9-25 PSI KIT W/AC ('99 UP 4.6 MUSTANG 2V) INTERCOOLED INCLUDES BOOST-A-PUMP ("TUNER KIT") 2.6L




yeah but that kit is for a 4.6 2V.... they are only from 99-04... your particular car is a 4.6 3V and the GT500 is a 5.4 4V

this beast is what you want on the shelby
http://www.kennebell.net/superchargers/ford/Shelby/Shelby.htm

In all honesty... I think your aiming too high with a street car... when your on the road today... look around and check out each and every car and assess how fast they are.... now if you swapped up to internals and ran this on your GT as is and pushed enough PSI to be at 600RWHP....
http://www.kennebell.net/superchargers/ford/gt05-06_3v/gt05-06_3v.htm


honestly... there isn't alot that is faster than you on the road after that... and it will come with about 10 grand including your dyno tune and your bolt ons

sure there are supercars and worked cars..... how many of those do you see on the way to work?

like around my area I see lots of C5 vettes and some base model C6's and alot of 3V's.... but the most they have is intake/exhaust and a tune if their lucky.... even a stock internal KB 3V (they can only hold about 400-450 RWHP with a good tune) will have a hard time being defeated by your normal tuner muscles with basic bolt on's...

to give you an idea of power... a stock internal KB 3V will be able to out muscle LS6 and LS2 vettes.... and a forged internal 600RWHP KB'ed 3V should be a drivers race with a LS7 Z06... after wieght and aero.... and a C6 Z06 smokes lambo gallardo's like it's a walk in the park... stay with your 3V and supercharge it, you will not be dissapointed

thanks, that sounds good. it all makes sense. I think i will stick to being normal! thanks.

Thats a good decision. Once the power of you're new car just doesnt do it for you anymore then look into upgrades. The aftermarket is growing fast for the new modular cars.

I think that the after market for the 2005 mustang was larger than the after market for the 96-04 mustangs even before the 05 was released.