1/12 Ferrari 312 T

whoa..
That is what I call detailing...

Wow, this is fantastic so far.
Truly inspiring detail work.

Wow, very nice and realistic!!
Rob, are you going to build a car from a specific race?
Gabriele

I'm thinking of Monza? Lauda came third but it was enough to secure the World Championship.

Thanks everyone for keeping me motivated with all the comments!

So maybe you will need this one:
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7329/000nuove3italiaclay0gv9.jpg
Picture taken at Monza (look at the AGIP logo in the white concrete wall in the background), maybe it could help your work!:wink:
Bye
Gabriele

I find myself chuckling away watching some of your threads Rob, those plug leads are simply brilliant.

Holy XXXX that's incredible...:eek: I need a can of that plasti-dip!!! Would you please tell me the Chinese name of these products Rob?:icon16: :evillol:

Awesome picture...where you got it?...do there is more?....let me know.


Thank you!



So maybe you will need this one:
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7329/000nuove3italiaclay0gv9.jpg
Picture taken at Monza (look at the AGIP logo in the white concrete wall in the background), maybe it could help your work!:wink:
Bye
Gabriele

Nice picture!, where you got it?...can get more like this?

Thanks!

I'm thinking of Monza? Lauda came third but it was enough to secure the World Championship.

Thanks everyone for keeping me motivated with all the comments!

I got it from a friend from another forum. The only one I have about the T at Monza, except for this one
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8158/75ita31ro2.jpg
taken from the Sutton archive.
Gabriele

Those distrubutor leads are :eek:
Would you be kind enough to share the source of this "Plasti-Dip"? Pretty please. :)

A quick Google search turned up http://www.plastidip.biz/ as one of many sources for the Plastidip products.

Looking great Rob. Great idea with the Plasti-dip. We have some here at the shop and I've always wanted to use it for something model related. I guess now I know what to do with it.
What happened to the thread over at f1m? I was going to comment there and it disappeared?

Mike.

Those distrubutor leads are :eek:
Would you be kind enough to share the source of this "Plasti-Dip"? Pretty please. :)

Phil, I just found it at a local hardware store. Try Bunnings, they may have it?

What happened to the thread over at f1m? I was going to comment there and it disappeared? Mike.

Mike, I post for selfish reasons... to motivate me to build more. Every time I read comments from you guys it makes me feel like building more and posting more updates. I got NO comments over at F1m so I deleted the thread :uhoh: Sorry....

It's too bad you didn't get comments on this on the other forum. I think you just knocked them dumbstruck with your skills. Althou the distributor is amazing with the lead boots, I found it just as amazing that you had numbers on each wire. I'd love to see this in real life, keep up the fantastic progress.

Robrex.....keep in mind that most F1M'ers are reading this forum too ( like me for example )....so why post messages in both ( if one is posting replies... ).
Anyway...keep them updates coming. Great work....as always:-)

Robrex.....keep in mind that most F1M'ers are reading this forum too ( like me for example )....so why post messages in both ( if one is posting replies... ).
Anyway...keep them updates coming. Great work....as always:-)

Yeah, That's what I thought as well. Now, speaking of updates, I'll have another on the weekend.... but what about your MP4/4 ???:grinno:

Mike, I post for selfish reasons... to motivate me to build more. Every time I read comments from you guys it makes me feel like building more and posting more updates. I got NO comments over at F1m so I deleted the thread :uhoh: Sorry....
I think we all post for selfish reasons. I started my first wip here with my Enzo and about 1/2 hour later I was checking to see if anyone posted a comment. I guess that is human nature. Too bad that nobody commented, I think there are a few members there that don't visit here that would really enjoy this build. It's builds like these that motivate me to do better and I appreciatte you posting.

Mike.

Now, speaking of updates, I'll have another on the weekend.... but what about your MP4/4 ???:grinno:
Yes please, that MP4/4 build needs to be updated. Every month or so I reread the whole thing just to see what can be done.

Mike.

Yeah i will....but don't count the hours:-) I've been busy with something else that is again taking longer than expected....
I have bought and read a book about the MP4/4 ( Technical Appraisal by Ian Bamsey ) in the mean time.....gave me new ideas :-)
But back to the 312T.....i don't wanna hijack this thread with my stuff!

Jaykay

Another update
I started working on the rear brakes and realized that the brake disc assembly goes into the gearbox before you attach the calipers. :banghead:
I thought about dismantling the parts but what the heck, I've got a lathe! I'll just make new parts.
I normally replace kit brakes without even thinking but the Tamiya discs look pretty good painted. So I used a razor saw and removed the hub details from the parts. Here are my inside hub machined parts with nuts and bolts added, compared to the kit pieces.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0672.jpg

I then secured the discs in position and made the outside hub on the lathe and fit it all together

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0674.jpg

I actually thought while making the inside hubs that you would never see the detail anyway but I was wrong. Check out the nuts and bolts

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0675.jpg

I have had quite a few people ask about machined parts so I had better mention that I am making an extra set of all the machined parts described. Expressions of interest are welcomed?

Thanks again for the comments

This look to real, not only details on brakes but texture on gearbox and complete assembly, amazing.

This thread is a pleasure to follow!! Very nice! Could be taken for the real thing!!

Looks great Rob.

Are the nuts and bolts ones that you have made or are they the ones you listed earlier in the thread?

Mike.

This thread is a pleasure to follow!! Very nice! Could be taken for the real thing!!
Amazing workmanship, love the level of realism.

That last photo is just too realistic..

I hate you Rob! You made me want to give up modeling lol!!!!

I've done a little bit more on the engine and gearbox

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0677.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0678.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0679.jpg

Questions? Fire away?

Looking fantastic Rob! I see in the background you have some other oil lines thats have been made to look "oiled". Unhappy with the look or what? Are these MFH oil lines BTW? Keep it up!

Oh the weld seams look great too!

The whole thing looks like someone took a shrink-ray to a Ferrari!

I see in the background you have some other oil lines thats have been made to look "oiled". Unhappy with the look or what? Are these MFH oil lines BTW?

Chad, I tried .7mm fishing line but that was too stiff for my liking, next the Modelers 0.9mm clear oil tube but that seemed a bit too thick (and too stiff). So I visited the local Spotlight store (craft shop) and found this stuff

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0680.jpg

It's very flexible and comes in a variety of thicknesses. It's the same as I used on my 1/20 312T3 but in 0.8mm so it looks perfect. Just put a drop of liquid cement on it and it clouds up giving it a realistic look.

Good Lord!:eek:

visited the local Spotlight store (craft shop) and found this stuff.It's very flexible and comes in a variety of thicknesses. It's the same as I used on my 1/20 312T3 but in 0.8mm so it looks perfect. Just put a drop of liquid cement on it and it clouds up giving it a realistic look.

LOL, i was just looking at this stuff about 2 weeks ago at Jo-Anns (craft-store). It had a different name but i think its the same. its really stretchy right? cool, Yours looks like its hollow-core on the engine which is why i assumed it was MFH. Brillant Rob! And thanks for confirming its the right stuff to use. Cheap and lots of different sizes. Keep amazing and informing.

Questions? Fire away?
Cool update. I had a question but you might have missed it. Here you go. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=4681929&postcount=83

Looking forward to more updates. Love those weld lines.

Mike.

Looks great Rob.

Are the nuts and bolts ones that you have made or are they the ones you listed earlier in the thread?

Mike.

Sorry Mike, I did miss this question. I've been using a combination of Sakatsu and Calipre nuts and bolts. I've drilled every single kit part and replaced them all. I may have to make my own when I tackle the suspension though :naughty:

Thanks

Rob excellent work as always!

I loved the weld lines and the weathering you did on those, they are just to realistic. Can you share your technic with me... err sorry us? :icon16:

Fantastic stuff - I love the cast finish on the gearbox. wow...

Great work Rob I sent a PM to you a while back about any parts your making for the 312T and some reference pictures I have.Send me a email.
<[email protected]>
Lonnie

I here claim you to be the next best model God

Rob excellent work as always!

I loved the weld lines and the weathering you did on those, they are just to realistic. Can you share your technique with me... err sorry us? :icon16:

here's a link to one of my previous threads showing how the weld marks are done

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=3410516&postcount=25

Ok, another update
I had been putting off doing the exhaust because i knew it would take a lot of time. Eventually I had to start so....
Here are the original kit parts on one group of three outlets and a comparison to the original collectors and pipes. That is what I will try to achieve in scale.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0681.jpghttp://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0682.jpg

To start I machined some new collector pipes and cut of the plastic pieces and replaced them with the new metal bits. A quick test fit to make sure they worked as intended.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0683.jpghttp://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0685.jpg

I also machined new outlets which look much better than the thick kit plastic. These were glued onto the exhaust and blended in before getting a coat of paint. http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0688.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0687.jpg

And finally some shots of the completed assembly.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0690.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0692.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0693.jpg

More soon (I'm on holidays):bananasmi

the engine and the exhaust look so real, amazing!!

More soon (I'm on holidays):bananasmi

sounds good to me :grinno:

That 3 litre flat twelve is a work of art in itself Rob. It will almost be a shame to hide it away in the chassis. :)

WOW the exhaust pipes are so cool great job the engine looks awesome.

Enjoy your Holiday :popcorn:

Your pic of the completed exhaust assembly doesnt in the least look like a model. It's very convincing of the real thing. The engine is a treasure in itself. The more you look at it, the more you find. This is some real artistry at play here.

Excellent Rob. Yor attention to detail amazes me.

Mike.

Your progress on the engine is a true work of art Rob!
Impressive demonstration of your skills.

the engine and the exhaust look so real, amazing!!



sounds good to me :grinno:
:1:

Here is another quick update
I made new rear shocks on the lathe and milling machine

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0694.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0695.jpg

It takes quite a bit of time making two sets of everything but I'll keep going.
More updates later today hopefully

Thanks again for all the comments

Beautiful work. What size thread is did you use?

Not only are the shocks a work of art, everything is beautiful. I wish I had something different to say when I comment, but I can only echo what the others have said.

Beautiful work. What size thread is did you use?

Not only are the shocks a work of art, everything is beautiful. I wish I had something different to say when I comment, but I can only echo what the others have said.

Mike, thanks for the compliment. The thread was done using a ultra-fine parting off tool hand fed to replicate thread. I just brought to tip in just enough to touch the surface then quickly wound the bit in towards the chuck. Obviously it doesn't work but the look is the important thing. Hope that helps? :screwy:

Moving right along, I started on the rear axles
here is a comparison between the kit parts and my basic machined parts made out of brass. The next photo shows the parts installed and detailed. The straps on the rubber boots are from Model Car Garage.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0701.jpghttp://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0697.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0696.jpg

Next I'm going to have to start on the chassis tub. I have been wondering how to finish the aluminium, Alclad or Bare Metal foil...:banghead:

Thanks for following the build

Superb Rob, just superb, thanks for sharing since is a pleasure to see, learn and dream techniques: super inspiring.

Just enjoy your work so much it's fun to watch you make all those parts maybe not as fun for you at times. Great work keep it up can't wait to see what is next. :)

Amazing realism. Can't wait to see more.

Did you wind the springs for the suspension or have some on hand, or......

I cannot wind mine that cleanly.

Did you wind the springs for the suspension or have some on hand, or......

Or are these the stock parts :grinno:?


The rear shocks look great, I spend some time with my lathe this weekend to make some for my MP 4/6 and now I have even more respect for your selfmade parts!!! The idea with the "thread" is great. I have to try that for my shocks :grinno: It's amazing everytime I read your threads I just want to go and start building...

maybe i oughtta put my 1/12 312T on eBay now. :lol:

seriously, though... i'm really enjoying this. it's giving me lots of ideas for when i tackle mine. i'll never approach yours, but it gives me a goal to shoot for.

thanks, rob. :)

Nice progress. The shock threads look a bit dicey in the closeup pic, but I'm sure it looks fine on the model. Is the adjuster ring on the shock a separate part? I'd like to see what you can do with aluminum foil on the chassis. Maybe use some steel wool to dull the shine, or spray with dullcoat? Just some ideas.

Nice progress. The shock threads look a bit dicey in the closeup pic, but I'm sure it looks fine on the model. Is the adjuster ring on the shock a separate part? I'd like to see what you can do with aluminum foil on the chassis. Maybe use some steel wool to dull the shine, or spray with dullcoat? Just some ideas.

Ken, the adjuster ring is part of the rear shock not a seperate part. For that reason I had to use a very thin parting off tool to make the thread by hand. I got a bit of flex with the sideways movement and therefore a slightly rougher finish. It looks fine when on the model which is all that matters.

I'm thinking of trying the polished aluminium alclad on the chassis tub and see how it looks. If that fails I'll use the foil.

Did you wind the springs for the suspension or have some on hand, or......I cannot wind mine that cleanly.

I used the kit springs so don't worry....I can't wind them that clean either :screwy:

Here's another quick update
The rear of the car will hopefully get a few looks and nothing is more prominent than the brake light. I made a copy of the kit part from aluminium and then made a replacement lense from Squadron clear thermaform using the new machined part as a template. You simply heat the thermaform over a candle then pull it down over the template which is held firmly in a vice. I then turned the lense holder on the lathe and clipped the lense in place. Some clear red paint completed the job.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0706.jpghttp://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0705.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0704.jpg

Next the oil cooler needed some detailing. Once again I used finemolds radiator mesh #10 this time and added some spring clips.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/robrex/Ferrari%20312%20T/DSCF0707.jpg

Unfortunately I have 3 cubic meters of river stones and 5 cubic meters of mulch arriving for the garden tomorrow so I may not have another update until next week... (you've got to keep the wife happy :shakehead )

Thanks for the replies

Nice Work,
As I see you have the same problem with the wife..........
everybody has to be happy, so........

Concerning the car, I like your lathe made pieces.

Jamme

Holy cow you've got some amazing patience for this detail work. It's looking great so far!