v4 or v6

hey guys
i am thinking of getting a new 03 eclipes, but can't decide to go with v4 or v6. it doesn't seem like there is a big gap in size, 2.4 and 3.0 or power. pricely wise v4 is cheaper but i am thinking to mod it later on so which has more potential? and what is there big diff on 5 speed and auto on eclipse? what are the 1/4 mile time for stock for both v4 and v6
thanks

Find yourself a good used 2G GSX or GST. The 3G Eclipse is a Dodge stratus in a different body.

If you do go for the 3G Eclipse, get the V6. Always go for the trim level that has the most horsepower when purchasing a sports car. That way you have no regrets. You bought the one that had everything on it. If you buy anything less, you'll end up kicking yourself in the butt.

Just My $0.02

Used to own a 3G. Actually, both my friend and I did. We both own GSX's now. But he had the 4cyl GS, and I had the V6 GT. If you have to get one, I'd go with the GT. Driven both, and the V6 GT is a lot better IMHO.

theres no such thing as a v4.... ALRIGHT!!!!!!

Posted by TMUMMY:
theres no such thing as a v4 stupid

Hell if I know. I was never interested in the 3G Eclipse.

But what bothers me is that someone here is asking for help, and you have to go and be an ass about it. If you don't have something constructive to say:

KEEP YER YAPPER SHUT!

Actually, there is a V4 in existance. I remember other boards talking about it. Ducati or something like that and a few other one's, and a long time ago used it. Don't know if they still use it today. But I'm sure if you did a search for V4 Engine, it should pop some stuff up.

TMUMMY,

Your profile seems to be incomplete. What vehicle do you drive that qualifies you to comment on an Eclipse? Where are you located?

Everyone else commenting has the perquisite ownership or intent to purchase an Eclipse.

Lets see... I bet you're wondering what qualifies me....

I purchased an 1998 Eclipse GSX AWD LSD brand new.

I immediately started upgrading systems that I felt were weak points: intake & exhaust. Akimoto cone filter. HKS cat back exhaust.

Then I added front and rear aftermarket sway bars & front/rear GAB strut tower braces, to take care of the body roll during cornering.

Then I added the greddy hard pipe kit w/ blow off valve. Didn't go for the front mount intercooler, because it blocks off too much of the radiator and causes overheating on the street.

Then on went the HKS boost controller & turbo timer.

Then I had the valve cover powder coated, and raised lettering polished. Didn't want that to oxidize.

No exterior wing upgrades, or body upgrades. No stickers to advertise to car theives what they can have if they take my ride. It's more fun to beat someone on the street when you look mostly stock. They never , ever see it coming.

Now that I have a 2nd car as a daily driver, the Eclipse is open for more agressive work.

-turbo upgrade W/front mount intercooler
-brembo brake upgrade
-new cams
-new pistons
-urethane suspension bushings
-roll cage
-race tires
-clutch upgrade
-ECU
-Higher flow fuel pump
-Larger fuel injectors
-Upgraded LSD
-under drive pulleys

My point is TMUMMY, before you become rude and call people here "stupid", prove to me that you have what it takes to shoot your mouth off like that.

Hell. I just bought the Xterra and plan on going off-roading. I don't know how to off-road yet. It's a completely new realm for me. Raising a vehicle, instead of lowering it...more side-wall rubber, not less...who would have thought? Rock Crawling, crossing water, using a winch to get yourself out of trouble....etc

The thing is, I don't go on the Xterra boards and mouth off to those guys who actually have had the Xterra for longer than me (and have done some serious off-roading) and tell them they are stupid.

So come on...step up to the plate...let me see what you've got.

Prove me wrong. Prove to me you are not an ass like I think you are.

Black99GSX,

Sweet looking ride! I have the super white. I had a black car once, and found it difficult to keep clean. You've got more guts than me.

The only problem with the white, you see every little road tar speck that gets kicked up on the doors.

:wave:

there are a few V-4s

Yamaha has them in a few of their bikes, havent heard of Ducati's using them...


but as far as i know, there hasnt been any V4 motors mass produced for cars. When you get that small, it doesnt have the advantage of being big over the Inline4... ie the V6 vs the I4... V6 has more grunt.


anywho thats my thought... :licker:

RedNeck383,

Two Novas? SWEET! I didn't know that you had 50/50 weight distribution in the Nova. I am a car nut, and have lots of respect for that car.

I see that you're in Long Beach. Even better for your Novas. I live in the rust-belt, so a car like yours around here is a sight to behold.

My dream is to own a 1968 Shelby Cobra Mustang GT 500 KR. I'll get there one day

:)

On a side note...

Lets see...who's replied so far....

Me- 98 GSX
Black99GSX - Who has owned the 3G Eclipse
RedNeck383 - Owns Two SWEET Novas.

Still waiting for you to step up to the plate and take your swing TMUMMY

Originally posted by GSX-Terra
Black99GSX,

Sweet looking ride! I have the super white. I had a black car once, and found it difficult to keep clean. You've got more guts than me.

The only problem with the white, you see every little road tar speck that gets kicked up on the doors.

:wave:

Thanks. :D Yea, I have like a thing for black cars, LoL. My 3G was actually silver though...would've had black, but eh...my buddy bought a black 3G, LoL. Anyways, he doesn't have his 3G anymore either. After driving mine a couple of times, he ended up trading his 2000 GS in for a White '99 GSX, LoL. And I hear ya' about the dirt. White and Black cars are hard to keep clean.

Anyways, here's a pic of our cars. 2 '99's. :)

http://home.attbi.com/~black99gsx/g2.jpg

That was taken the day when my buddy got his GSX, heh. It's a little different now. Has window tint and clear corners. Everything else really can't be seen, because it's all performance mods. Gotta get ready for that big turbo. :D

well gsx-terra i don't have one and never want one and i know alot about the eclipse think you i know that there turbo engines suck because of this crankwalk stuff so ask me anything and i will answer o.k o.k bye

Originally posted by GSX-Terra
RedNeck383,

Two Novas? SWEET! I didn't know that you had 50/50 weight distribution in the Nova. I am a car nut, and have lots of respect for that car.

I see that you're in Long Beach. Even better for your Novas. I live in the rust-belt, so a car like yours around here is a sight to behold.

My dream is to own a 1968 Shelby Cobra Mustang GT 500 KR. I'll get there one day

:)

On a side note...

Lets see...who's replied so far....

Me- 98 GSX
Black99GSX - Who has owned the 3G Eclipse
RedNeck383 - Owns Two SWEET Novas.

Still waiting for you to step up to the plate and take your swing TMUMMY


Two Sweet Novas? haha i so wish...

My 72, is Decent. The paint needs to be redone, along with 2 spots of rust the size of a quarter... nothing too terrible.

The 70, Its a basket case... but has the cool motor the 425hp 383ci.


So my plan is to transplant the 383 into the 72. Haha, this all takes money, which im out of from buying the 72. Ugh old cars are badass, but a pain in the ass.

68 Shelby GT500 ahh yes. The best non-Mustang ever. I say non Mustang cause Shelby's dont say Ford, or Mustang on them anyplace. Just GT500 and Shelby.

Nice cars though!

Originally posted by TMUMMY
well gsx-terra i don't have one and never want one and i know alot about the eclipse think you i know that there turbo engines suck because of this crankwalk stuff so ask me anything and i will answer o.k o.k bye

First of all kid, what the heck are you trying to say here? This post makes no sense what so ever. How can you know so much about the Eclipse? YOU DON'T OWN ONE!

Second, how can anyone here expect me to have an intelligent debate with you? Your profile says that you were born in 1985. You are around 17 years old (depending on the month in which you were born)? It's not your age that makes me doubt the credibility of your replies. It's the fact that you seem not to have paid attention in your highschool English grammar / composition classes. Have you read what you typed? Scentences begin with capital letters. The pronoun when you refer to yourself is "I" not "i". Also, you should familiarize yourself on the use of periods. It helps to avoid run-on scentences.

You've proven that you lack in basic communication skills. The other critical skill involved in modifing any vehicle is at least algebra and basic geometry. Let me help you out in this regard. First basic lesson:

1 + 1 = 2

I'll introduce you to 1+2 when you've grasped the concept above.

Third, I've seen your previous posts on this board. You did not even know of any Eclipse's problems, until the Eclipse owners here spoon fed you the information. Let me help you again. To properly converse on a subject, you must at least grasp the basic fundamentals of said subject. Go to http://www.howstuffworks.com and click on the link on the left hand side of the webpage that says "automotive". This will give you information on how engines work, forced induction, rotary engines, diesel engines, the whole ball of wax.

(Again I would feel remiss if I did not give you another helping hand. How to find the direction the rest of the English speaking world calls "left". Hold your hands in front of your face palms away from you, extend your thumbs horizontally, and extend your fore-fingers vertically, curl up the other three fingers. Take a long hard look at both hands. The one that makes the "L" shape is your left. To find out the definitions of the larger words in these instructions, go to http://www.dictionary.com)

TMUMMY, this next part is for the grown-ups who have not diminished their intelligence by subscribing to pop-culture's negative influences. TMUMMY, turn on your television and find something befitting your intelligence. My four-year-old godson recently found the Teletubbies rudimentary, so it should be appropriate for you. I'm willing to bet you'll find something irresistible about Tinky-Winky.

For the remainder of those who have subscribed to this post, I must say that this has been an excercise in patience. This must have been exactly what Dr. Jane Goodall experienced in her study of the African mountain gorillas. I can only imagine the frustration she felt while trying to decipher the methods in which gorillas communicate.

On a sad note, because the children are our future, at least a gorilla has been taught sign language and could communicate with others. It may not have been intricate communication, but you have to give the gorilla credit. The gorilla (Ko-Ko) had to span a species gap. This teenager has the genetic advantage of being a homo-sapien, yet has not employed the advantages that a larger cranium provides.

Your funny:flipa:. I finshed school last year, and I have read alot about the eclipse and I wasn't trying to be perfect about my grammer and stuff. And how old were you when you finshed school, I think I was 16 at that time:monkeypis gsx-terra

well gsx-terra i don't have one and never want one and i know alot about the eclipse think you i know that there turbo engines suck because of this crankwalk stuff so ask me anything and i will answer o.k o.k bye

I'm stepping in b/c I'm tired of ignorance spouting off about the crankwalk. So what, some motors have it. Am I going to sell my GSX eclipse b/c of it? No, granted mine isn't a 7-bolt motor so I have nothing to worry anyways, but you get the good w/ the bad. I have a 4g63 powered AWD Turbo Sports car. A blast for any who've driven them. Open your mind, not the local TV Guide.

Rob

:flamer:

Originally posted by TMUMMY
Your funny:flipa:. I finshed school last year, and I have read alot about the eclipse and I wasn't trying to be perfect about my grammer and stuff. And how old were you when you finshed school, I think I was 16 at that time:monkeypis gsx-terra

This is how you defend yourself?

I'm speechless.

Thank you for validating all of my observations in my last post.

That is all.

first of all, there is no "v4". now that we have that out on the table, i think that if you bother getting a new eclipse, you go with the v6. i can tell you where to get every mod that you would want, weather it is for show, or for performance. i have done pretty much everything that i can think of to my GT spyder, and of course, since it is a GT, it is v6. i have a turbo on mine, and a direct port NX kit. i have had 2 different body kits, and i have 3 sets of rims (stock, racing, show). i have a great sound system that take up my whole trunk... so if you want some real info, let me know. if you want a car for speed, the eclipse is NOT the way to go unless you are prepared to spend too much money to get it to where you want it. DO NOT purchase the eclipse if it is for speed. there are many more cars that are more inexpensive. I bought my car because i like the eclipse. that is the only reason to purchase this car. if you have any questions, email me... privatebrall@aol.com or @yahoo.com

Josh

sorry, when i said that there is no "v4" i meant for the 4g eclipse. there are several cars that use a straight 4, but i don't know about a v4, i don't want you all to think that i am just beating a dead horse here, that is not why we are all posting... it is to shut up someone who has no business commenting on a 3rd gen eclipse, and to help out the dude who is considering one. and by the way.. mine is auto with the bullshit sportronic shifter. IT SUCKS. i thought it would be the same as manual, but it is not, and definately get the auto. i noticed that no one commented on that part of your question, so i figured i would hit that one up also.