Revell Ferrari 250 GTO new model
ferrari2k
02-18-2007, 09:35 AM
Hi, just found that on the Revell germany website, they bring out a Ferrari 250 GTO in summer :)
Ferrari 250 GTO (http://www.revell.de/de/produkte/modellbau/modellbau/autos/?id=207&KOKANR=01&KOSCHL=04&KGSCHL=01&L=0&page=1&sort=0&nc=1&searchactive=&q=&SWO=&ARMAS4=&CatalogueSID=956d46f390097f95f357f1a994d2a5fd&KZSLPG=%23NH%23&offset=4&cmd=show&ARARTN=07395&sp=1)
Does anyone know if this is a new kit or just a reboxed one from another company?
Ferrari 250 GTO (http://www.revell.de/de/produkte/modellbau/modellbau/autos/?id=207&KOKANR=01&KOSCHL=04&KGSCHL=01&L=0&page=1&sort=0&nc=1&searchactive=&q=&SWO=&ARMAS4=&CatalogueSID=956d46f390097f95f357f1a994d2a5fd&KZSLPG=%23NH%23&offset=4&cmd=show&ARARTN=07395&sp=1)
Does anyone know if this is a new kit or just a reboxed one from another company?
Veyron
02-18-2007, 10:08 AM
Hi, just found that on the Revell germany website, they bring out a Ferrari 250 GTO in summer :)
Ferrari 250 GTO (http://www.revell.de/de/produkte/modellbau/modellbau/autos/?id=207&KOKANR=01&KOSCHL=04&KGSCHL=01&L=0&page=1&sort=0&nc=1&searchactive=&q=&SWO=&ARMAS4=&CatalogueSID=956d46f390097f95f357f1a994d2a5fd&KZSLPG=%23NH%23&offset=4&cmd=show&ARARTN=07395&sp=1)
Does anyone know if this is a new kit or just a reboxed one from another company?
It's the Italeri molds which Revell now own...so it's a good kit. I hope they update the tires but that's too much to ask I'm sure.
Ferrari 250 GTO (http://www.revell.de/de/produkte/modellbau/modellbau/autos/?id=207&KOKANR=01&KOSCHL=04&KGSCHL=01&L=0&page=1&sort=0&nc=1&searchactive=&q=&SWO=&ARMAS4=&CatalogueSID=956d46f390097f95f357f1a994d2a5fd&KZSLPG=%23NH%23&offset=4&cmd=show&ARARTN=07395&sp=1)
Does anyone know if this is a new kit or just a reboxed one from another company?
It's the Italeri molds which Revell now own...so it's a good kit. I hope they update the tires but that's too much to ask I'm sure.
Jamme
02-18-2007, 10:13 AM
Hello,
I'm not shure it is the Italeri kit, can be the Protar one, which was better than the Italeri One.
By the way, Revell does not own the moulds, it's a sort of Lease....;
Cheers,
Jamme
I'm not shure it is the Italeri kit, can be the Protar one, which was better than the Italeri One.
By the way, Revell does not own the moulds, it's a sort of Lease....;
Cheers,
Jamme
Veyron
02-18-2007, 10:24 AM
Hello,
I'm not shure it is the Italeri kit, can be the Protar one, which was better than the Italeri One.
By the way, Revell does not own the moulds, it's a sort of Lease....;
Cheers,
Jamme
The Protar kit is horrible compared to the Italeri, Protar's is heavy handed and not as good of proportions.
I'm not shure it is the Italeri kit, can be the Protar one, which was better than the Italeri One.
By the way, Revell does not own the moulds, it's a sort of Lease....;
Cheers,
Jamme
The Protar kit is horrible compared to the Italeri, Protar's is heavy handed and not as good of proportions.
Jamme
02-18-2007, 10:29 AM
May be you're right.
I must be thinking about the Gunze..........:confused:
But if my memories are good, the Rims of the Protar, where nice, no?
Cheers,
Jamme
I must be thinking about the Gunze..........:confused:
But if my memories are good, the Rims of the Protar, where nice, no?
Cheers,
Jamme
gionc
02-18-2007, 10:59 AM
The Protar kit is horrible compared to the Italeri, Protar's is heavy handed and not as good of proportions.
Not horrible... it's just a good kit, well detailed, the problem is on openable doors and hoods fiiting and in proportions: inlt in those italeri stuff is better. Italeri give same tyres front and rear and horrible rims, Protar tyres aren't so bad and wire rims decent, to be plastic stuff.
BTW I guess the re-release should be the protar stuff. Protar moulds is owned by Italeri that have a partnership with Revell.
Not horrible... it's just a good kit, well detailed, the problem is on openable doors and hoods fiiting and in proportions: inlt in those italeri stuff is better. Italeri give same tyres front and rear and horrible rims, Protar tyres aren't so bad and wire rims decent, to be plastic stuff.
BTW I guess the re-release should be the protar stuff. Protar moulds is owned by Italeri that have a partnership with Revell.
hirofkd
02-18-2007, 11:20 AM
You guys must have missed this thread.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=658579
All 250GTO kits have pros and cons. Italeri's body has some problems, especially the sides around the doors are too flat, while Protar and Gunze are curved as they should.
I've been wanting to make the '64 body using Mini Exotic transkit, so a reasonably-priced Italeri 250GTO is quite nice.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=658579
All 250GTO kits have pros and cons. Italeri's body has some problems, especially the sides around the doors are too flat, while Protar and Gunze are curved as they should.
I've been wanting to make the '64 body using Mini Exotic transkit, so a reasonably-priced Italeri 250GTO is quite nice.
bhop73
02-18-2007, 01:43 PM
I'm just glad to be able to get ANY "affordable" 250 GTO again.. I mean, those ebay Gunze kits are nice for people that aren't strapped for cash..
Lusitano
02-18-2007, 04:20 PM
BTW I guess the re-release should be the protar stuff. Protar moulds is owned by Italeri that have a partnership with Revell.
...albeit Italeri had its own 250GTO moulds.
So the Revell re-box might be either the ex-Protar or the "real" Italeri one. Life can be complicated at times! :uhoh:
Cheers,
Lusitano
...albeit Italeri had its own 250GTO moulds.
So the Revell re-box might be either the ex-Protar or the "real" Italeri one. Life can be complicated at times! :uhoh:
Cheers,
Lusitano
klutz_100
02-19-2007, 05:09 AM
the Revell re-box might be either the ex-Protar or the "real" Italeri one. Life can be complicated at times! :uhoh:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: :iceslolan
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: :iceslolan
vintagethunder
04-15-2007, 05:53 PM
Perhaps I misunderstood, but I talked to Ed Sexton of Revell at the Ferrari swap meet in Chicago a few weeks ago and I thought he said Revell Germany was reissuing the Italeri 250 GTO.
anopanjo
04-15-2007, 06:28 PM
Maybe it is the Gunze kit in disguise, im sure its not, the kit doesnt look to bad, does anyone no if its curbside or has an engine?
hirofkd
04-16-2007, 02:06 AM
This is <not> what to expect from the the Revell Germany's upcoming 250GTO, which is <not> the Italeri tool <but actually the Protar tool, darn it!>.
FYI, The better Italeri body is made up of 8 pieces and the hinge parts. The kit includes the engine and complete suspension details.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto01.jpg
The chassis and interior are well-detailed. This Italeri kit came with a bonus Ferrari pin.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto02.jpg
This is another model, which's been dry-fitted. The body is fairly accurate, but there're some problems, which I'll discuss later.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto03.jpg
The engine details are more than adequate for a mass-produced plastic model.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto04.jpg
Close-up of the interior.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto05.jpg
Front and rear suspension details.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto06.jpg
Italeri's spokes are not as thin as the Protar's, but that's because Protar is unusual, and Italeri wheels look fair.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto07.jpg
The biggest problem of the Italeri kit is the side of the body--it's too flat. The Gunze body is curved as it should, but it's still not close to the real one.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto08.jpg
Here's a body comparison from the top. The Italeri looks most neutral of all. The Protar kit is slightly smaller, but it features opening hood, doors and trunk lid. The Gunze body looks voluptuous, and lacks elegance of the real car, but some people might like it that way.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto09.jpg
The Italeri (top) and Gunze (bottom) kits look alright from this angle. Protar kit doesn't have the fog lights, and it could represent 3527GT or 3581GT, but I'm not certain.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto10.jpg
The bottom rear of the Protar kit is really bad, but, but it can be easily rounded by filing and sanding. The biggest problem of the Gunze kit is its rear wheel arch. On the real car, it's a compound curve, but Gunze exaggerated it too much, and looks inaccurate.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto11.jpg
So, is the Italeri kit worth it? I'd say definitely, especially without a mark-up.
FYI, The better Italeri body is made up of 8 pieces and the hinge parts. The kit includes the engine and complete suspension details.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto01.jpg
The chassis and interior are well-detailed. This Italeri kit came with a bonus Ferrari pin.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto02.jpg
This is another model, which's been dry-fitted. The body is fairly accurate, but there're some problems, which I'll discuss later.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto03.jpg
The engine details are more than adequate for a mass-produced plastic model.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto04.jpg
Close-up of the interior.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto05.jpg
Front and rear suspension details.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto06.jpg
Italeri's spokes are not as thin as the Protar's, but that's because Protar is unusual, and Italeri wheels look fair.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto07.jpg
The biggest problem of the Italeri kit is the side of the body--it's too flat. The Gunze body is curved as it should, but it's still not close to the real one.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto08.jpg
Here's a body comparison from the top. The Italeri looks most neutral of all. The Protar kit is slightly smaller, but it features opening hood, doors and trunk lid. The Gunze body looks voluptuous, and lacks elegance of the real car, but some people might like it that way.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto09.jpg
The Italeri (top) and Gunze (bottom) kits look alright from this angle. Protar kit doesn't have the fog lights, and it could represent 3527GT or 3581GT, but I'm not certain.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto10.jpg
The bottom rear of the Protar kit is really bad, but, but it can be easily rounded by filing and sanding. The biggest problem of the Gunze kit is its rear wheel arch. On the real car, it's a compound curve, but Gunze exaggerated it too much, and looks inaccurate.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/250gto/gto11.jpg
So, is the Italeri kit worth it? I'd say definitely, especially without a mark-up.
klutz_100
04-16-2007, 03:00 AM
Very nice comparison! :thumbsup:
anopanjo
04-16-2007, 03:00 AM
Thanks for that, i think that the Italeri one is probably on par just as good as the Gunze one, i had the gunze and i noticed that its fairly similar to the italeri one!
Apart from the photo etch most of the kit contents look similar!
Apart from the photo etch most of the kit contents look similar!
MrFerrari
04-16-2007, 03:30 AM
tower hobbies listed for $26.99. Price is reasonable.
Is it going to be a limited release?
I hope revell is going to re-release the 275. I'm still hunting for the spyder.
Is it going to be a limited release?
I hope revell is going to re-release the 275. I'm still hunting for the spyder.
gionc
04-16-2007, 03:51 AM
Thanks Hiroaki. One more step of comparo: the grey one is the Climax-MFH GTO '63 Tourist Trophy #12., the center one the Italeri, the stripped one the Protar.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/compa1.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/compa2.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/compa3.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/compa4.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/compa1.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/compa2.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/compa3.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/gionc/compa4.jpg
CeeElle
04-16-2007, 12:24 PM
i love my Italeri kit (thanks, klutz!) so much that i bought another on eBay. MFH makes an excellent set of wheels with correct Dunlops, and the Replicas and Miniatures of Maryland engine kit is worth every penny.
Emilio Lizardo
05-13-2007, 04:32 PM
I hope that everybody is sitting down.
I recognize the Protar/Revell kit! It is the ole Aurora model from the 60's. Monogram bought the Aurora assets in the mid 70's. Monogram reissued the kit a few times. I betcha that is a Revellogram Aurora kit. I will have to get my old Aurora box out of the stash to compare!!
I recognize the Protar/Revell kit! It is the ole Aurora model from the 60's. Monogram bought the Aurora assets in the mid 70's. Monogram reissued the kit a few times. I betcha that is a Revellogram Aurora kit. I will have to get my old Aurora box out of the stash to compare!!
360spider
05-13-2007, 08:07 PM
Protar kit is NOT Aurora/Monogram. Italeri kit is NOT Aurora/Monogram. Aurora kit is so badly mishaped that I can't even call it Ferrari, much less a GTO. Its a joke of a kit.
Emilio Lizardo
05-13-2007, 11:04 PM
I pulled out my 1964 Aurora issue. You are correct, sorry. The parts layout are very similar to each other.
In the history of Aurora, it is pointed out that the model was originally done as a 250 SWB but when the GTO came out, they did a new body but made it short to fit the shorter chassis. I do not think that then ever imagined anyone discussing that 40+ years later.
In the history of Aurora, it is pointed out that the model was originally done as a 250 SWB but when the GTO came out, they did a new body but made it short to fit the shorter chassis. I do not think that then ever imagined anyone discussing that 40+ years later.
gionc
05-14-2007, 03:06 AM
i love my Italeri kit (thanks, klutz!) so much that i bought another on eBay. MFH makes an excellent set of wheels with correct Dunlops, and the Replicas and Miniatures of Maryland engine kit is worth every penny.
LOL CeeElle: I love so much my italeri 250gto that I'm happy to sold they LOL
LOL CeeElle: I love so much my italeri 250gto that I'm happy to sold they LOL
360spider
05-14-2007, 07:17 AM
I pulled out my 1964 Aurora issue. You are correct, sorry. The parts layout are very similar to each other.
In the history of Aurora, it is pointed out that the model was originally done as a 250 SWB but when the GTO came out, they did a new body but made it short to fit the shorter chassis. I do not think that then ever imagined anyone discussing that 40+ years later.
Wheel base of the GTO is 2400 mm / 94.5 in, exactly the same as 250 SWB. The chassis is not shorter, it is exactly the same length.
In the history of Aurora, it is pointed out that the model was originally done as a 250 SWB but when the GTO came out, they did a new body but made it short to fit the shorter chassis. I do not think that then ever imagined anyone discussing that 40+ years later.
Wheel base of the GTO is 2400 mm / 94.5 in, exactly the same as 250 SWB. The chassis is not shorter, it is exactly the same length.
gionc
05-14-2007, 07:41 AM
Wheel base of the GTO is 2400 mm / 94.5 in, exactly the same as 250 SWB. The chassis is not shorter, it is exactly the same length.
I wanted to say him, Alex but I leave to you the badass part LOL!
I wanted to say him, Alex but I leave to you the badass part LOL!
Emilio Lizardo
05-15-2007, 04:21 PM
Ok, I was quoting a book on the history of Aurora models which mentioned why the author stated that the bodywork of the GTO did not look quite right. I did not check the veracity of the Aurora book against the Ferrari factory literature.:nono:
Aurora made 1/25 scale models of European cars at a time when AMT would not touch these. (Monogram issued their slot car bodies as static kits.) Also the models were done at a time when the typical modeler was 10 to 12 years old spending his spare US$1.25 for a weekend project. The Aurora models were (off the top of my head): GTO, Maserati 3500 GT, Ford GT, Chaparral 2C, Avanti, Aston Martin DB4, Jaguar XKE and the Porsche 904.
Again, these were made 1963-64 for the youth market.
I am not comparing these to the 50-$100 kits out there now. Sorry, to have made the original statement in error, but if you ever saw the Aurora parts on the tree, they look very similar to the revell protar trees.
Honestly the fact that I mentioned a 40 year old mass produced kit in the same thread as very pricey kits does not call for the 'bad ass' treatment. I am 48, when I was 12, I was very happy to see the Aurora kit. I recall building one (and the Maserati) years later from a Monogram box. :2cents:
Aurora made 1/25 scale models of European cars at a time when AMT would not touch these. (Monogram issued their slot car bodies as static kits.) Also the models were done at a time when the typical modeler was 10 to 12 years old spending his spare US$1.25 for a weekend project. The Aurora models were (off the top of my head): GTO, Maserati 3500 GT, Ford GT, Chaparral 2C, Avanti, Aston Martin DB4, Jaguar XKE and the Porsche 904.
Again, these were made 1963-64 for the youth market.
I am not comparing these to the 50-$100 kits out there now. Sorry, to have made the original statement in error, but if you ever saw the Aurora parts on the tree, they look very similar to the revell protar trees.
Honestly the fact that I mentioned a 40 year old mass produced kit in the same thread as very pricey kits does not call for the 'bad ass' treatment. I am 48, when I was 12, I was very happy to see the Aurora kit. I recall building one (and the Maserati) years later from a Monogram box. :2cents:
MrFerrari
05-26-2007, 04:20 PM
:banghead::banghead: It's Protar mold. Damn it. :banghead::banghead:
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