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I got pulled over by a cop today because he thought I was speeding, he didnt clock me. i was going the opposit way as he, and he turned around and pulled me over. He asked how fast I was going, and I told him around 55, he thought I was doing around 65, which i probly was, if not - faster, in a 40. I don't see why they should be able to pull you over for speeding unless they clock you. Bunch of bull if ya ask me.

Almost goes hand in hand with the reckless driving law. Ofcourse there's no device to tell a cop if you're driving recklessly, they just use human senses. So its bound to happen, did you get ticketed?

Yep, got a ticket, 55 in a 40, i was thinking about fighting it, but then my parents would find out because court date i have school, need their permission to leave.

Hmmm, I think you might be able to have that one overturned. I mean he had no official reading, and come on, who the hell can tell the difference between 45 and 55 PLUS driving the other way? Its either that or pay the tickets and still have your parents find out, lol.

Yea, Im thinking about just paying it, Its only 99, not near as bad as my last one. but my step dad would, not sure, but yea, if he knew about the last few, In 2 years, ive had 3 speeding tickets, including this one, 93 in a 65 was the worst. I definetly need ta slow down, but yesterday, i thought I was gonna be late for work, for a few other reasons, but only wound up being 20 seconds late, and was pulled over right in fron of my work, yea.

Yep, got a ticket, 55 in a 45, i was thinking about fighting it, but then my parents would find out because court date i have school, need their permission to leave.

So you'd rather pay a bigger fine and put points on your lisence and raise your insurance and have your parents find out later on, rather than on a court date?

South Dakota doesn't have the points system as far as I can tell. Inssurance company hasn't found out about any tickets except the first, which was unsafe lane change or failure to take first available lane, resulting in me side swiping a lady that I didnt see. That and my roll over (no ticket though - just a totaled out grand am) were the only ones my insurance company have seen. Yea, my history with cars...kinda sucks. :iceslolan My step dad knows about the first ticket (the flane change one) and my mom knows about all but this last one.

Ahh, the annual I got pulled over for something I didn't deserve thread.

I see it came early this year.

Yea, Im thinking about just paying it....


Good idea, because:


.... He asked how fast I was going, and I told him around 55.....


So he wrote you for 55. Case closed, probably not worth fighting.


Also, moved to traffic

you have no chance of winning if you told the cop you were doing 55 in a 45, then turn up in court and fight the ticket. you've already admitted, you think they're going to let you off for some reason?

Ahh, the annual I got pulled over for something I didn't deserve thread.

I see it came early this year.I don't recall ever saying or implying anything like that. With the points system, would they mail something to you and let you know they changed and what you have, whenever you got a ticket. Thanks Fres, I was looking for this but couldnt find it.

Is it better to play dumb and say you have no clue why you were pulled over or not?

Is it better to play dumb and say you have no clue why you were pulled over or not?

Not after you admitted to the officer that you were going 55 in a 40.

In VA, they don't mail you anything unless your license is in danger of being suspended. You can check at your motor vehicle department or licensing department, they should be able to tell you how many points you have.

Is it better to play dumb and say you have no clue why you were pulled over or not?

Not after you admitted to the officer that you were going 55 in a 40.

but if you did, it wouldn't really be playing dumb.

Not after you admitted to the officer that you were going 55 in a 40.
I'm not talking about this one. For future reference is more what I was thinking about.

I don't see why they should be able to pull you over for speeding unless they clock you. Bunch of bull if ya ask me.

Well why not? When I stand near some road and observe cars passing by for a while, I can certainly make out which one is close to the speed limit and which one is fast. The cops have been doing that for quite some time. :wink:

Well that's different. I always tell them good afternoon, and ask them why they pulled me over. The question, "do you know how fast you were going" is a total setup. If you say "I don't know", then they tell you. If you give them a number, well you know what happens then.

I got out of a ticket once by telling him "I had my cruise control set on 60, maybe my speedometer is off", then got my speedo calibrated. Dismissed.

Yep, got a ticket, 55 in a 45, i was thinking about fighting it, but then my parents would find out because court date i have school, need their permission to leave.
In New Jersey, a cop would never stop anyone for going 55 in a 45 zone. I was advised by a cop that they look for cars exceeding +11 or so (unless it's a school zone). You should have been able to get rid of that one easily.

Sorry, I'm too late in the discussion. :o

Well that's different. I always tell them good afternoon, and ask them why they pulled me over. The question, "do you know how fast you were going" is a total setup. If you say "I don't know", then they tell you. If you give them a number, well you know what happens then.

I got out of a ticket once by telling him "I had my cruise control set on 60, maybe my speedometer is off", then got my speedo calibrated. Dismissed.
Yea, I know how it works. It seems that cops in VA are worse with those questions. The only time I was pulled over (that was in VA), the cop asked me "Was there a reason to go 84 on 65?". Smart question! The cops in NJ are pretty straight with the words.

Well why not? When I stand near some road and observe cars passing by for a while, I can certainly make out which one is close to the speed limit and which one is fast. The cops have been doing that for quite some time. :wink:He was moving in the opposite direction as I was. He wasnt sitting in a parking lot, otherwise I'm sure he would have clocked me, I was watching for cops in the lots, not on the road.

Well that's different. I always tell them good afternoon, and ask them why they pulled me over. The question, "do you know how fast you were going" is a total setup. If you say "I don't know", then they tell you. If you give them a number, well you know what happens then.

I got out of a ticket once by telling him "I had my cruise control set on 60, maybe my speedometer is off", then got my speedo calibrated. Dismissed. Ok, will use for future reference then. Thats how Ive been asked 2/3 of my speeding tickets.

In New Jersey, a cop would never stop anyone for going 55 in a 45 zone. I was advised by a cop that they look for cars exceeding +11 or so (unless it's a school zone). You should have been able to get rid of that one easily.

Sorry, I'm too late in the discussion. :oIt's 5 over around here, i could have ben fine if I was actually doing 50 or so, but I was doing around 65.



I looked into the points system here, never heard anything about it until today when I looked it up.
Conviction ...................................Points
Driving While Intoxicated .................10*
Reckless Driving..................... 8
Eluding/Attempting to Elude .............6
Drag Racing ....................................6
Failure to Yield Right of Way ............4
Improper Passing ............................4
Driving Wrong Side of Roadway........ 4
Stop Sign/Light Violation ..................3
Other Moving Violations ...................2

*State Law requires revocation of license for Driving While Intoxicated

Any operator who accumulates fifteen (15) points in any twelve (12) consecutive months, or 22 points in any 24 consecutive months is subject to Driver License Suspension.

So I only have 6 points in the last 2 years, so really, I should be fine, I think. 3 speeding tickets, and the unsafe lane change, I think that comes to 6.

So I only have 6 points in the last 2 years, so really, I should be fine, I think. 3 speeding tickets, and the unsafe lane change, I think that comes to 6.

That's if you are sure they count under "other moving violations". Let's hope they are. Unsafe lane changing could be sometimes charged with reckless driving though that will be listed as a separate charge. Why don't you make an inquiry for your driving record? The motor vehicle commission sends a letter after each charge has been finalized, as far as I know.

I am finding the point system in SD better. :D

That's if you are sure they count under "other moving violations". Let's hope they are. Unsafe lane changing could be sometimes charged with reckless driving though that will be listed as a separate charge. Why don't you make an inquiry for your driving record? The motor vehicle commission sends a letter after each charge has been finalized, as far as I know.

I am finding the point system in SD better. :DEven still, thats only 6 or 14 of 22 for 24 months. Does it cost anything for that? I was thinking about that earlier because then I would know for sure. What are some of the point systems in other states at?

Yea, looking at some of the traffic lalws here, SD may be one of the better states to live in, especially if you have a car that might not pass emissions. No emissions laws and point system isn't to bad. I see why new york is bad. Interesting.

NJ suspends the license for any more than 12 points on the driving record within a 24 month period.


Failure to stop for a traffic light 2
Failure to give way to passing vehicle 2
Failure to yield to a pedestrian in crosswalk 2
Exceeding maximum speed - 1-14 miles over limit 2
Leaving the scene of an accident (property damage) 2
Careless driving 2
Failure to observe traffic signs 2
Failure to yield to emergency vehicles 2
Failure to observe direction of officer 2
Driving on public or private property to avoid traffic sign or signal 2
Out of state moving violation 2
Improper turns 3
Exceeding maximum speed û 15-29 miles over limit 4
Improper passing 4
Exceeding maximum speed û 30 miles or more over limit 5
Following too closely (tailgating) 5
Reckless driving 5
Passing a stopped school bus 5
Racing on highway 5
Leaving the scene of an accident (personal injury) 8


The MVC also assesses a surcharge after 6 points or more within three years that starts from $150 for 6 points and adds $25 for each point (points reduction does not reduce the surcharge).

Wow, That sucks.

In New Jersey, a cop would never stop anyone for going 55 in a 45 zone. I was advised by a cop that they look for cars exceeding +11 or so (unless it's a school zone). You should have been able to get rid of that one easily.

it was 55 in a 40.

it was 55 in a 40.Yea, 15 over.

it was 55 in a 40.
Yup, I admit I got confused after he mentioned 55 in 45 twice; once in this thread and another in http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=4615779&postcount=5

Yea, 15 over.

Bingo! Most states I've seen will let you get away with less than 10 over, but beyond that they're looking for you.

In VA, I've spoke with a State Trooper, who said that they can't write you a ticket unless you're going more than 7 over, and most won't bother until you're more than 10 over.

Personally, I go fast in a plane.

Personally, I go fast in a plane.Always man:grinyes:.

All posts that said 45 are now 40

Is it better to play dumb and say you have no clue why you were pulled over or not?


No, everytime ive ever played dumb ive gotten a ticket. Everytime ive been coompletely honest ive been let go with nothing but a warning and a "have a nice day/night"

No, everytime ive ever played dumb ive gotten a ticket. Everytime ive been coompletely honest ive been let go with nothing but a warning and a "have a nice day/night"I have a friend who has been pulled over 3 times, each time he got a warning. He did what I was asking about. The only time I ever got a warning was when I rolled my grand am, the only reason I didnt recieve a ticket was because the cop knew my parents were gonna be really hard on me and thought that was punnishment enough. Every time Ive been honest, I have gotten a ticket. 2 of 3 have been reduced though, but not the one when I was doing 93mph - that one hurt.

Honesty doesn't work the same way for everyone. :p

if that second list of points posted is correct you've got 8 points, speeding 15-29 over is 4 points, not 2. i'd fight it, your insurance is going to cost you more money, the ticket is going to cost you money, and what do you have to lose, so they might keep the ticket the same but you haven't lost anything. if you choose to pay it then you could be paying a bunch of extra money that you might not have to.

My insurance company only saw the lane change ticket and that was it. They never saw any of the other tickets and I'm not sure why. I only lost a discout with that ticket too.

No, everytime ive ever played dumb ive gotten a ticket. Everytime ive been coompletely honest ive been let go with nothing but a warning and a "have a nice day/night"


Yes, but in this situation, it's one of the easiest tickets to beat in court. The cop is really gonna testify that he was able to judge your exact speed while he was driving the opposite direction????? Don't think so. I've gotten out of going 115ish in a 55 for this exact reason. They can't nail you for an exact speed, and if you are smart enough not to admit guilt...you can tear them apart in court. Even if they try saying they clocked you with radar. Assuming you were both going say 45mph towards each other...it throws a HUGE doubt into the reliability of the reading. For radar to be used properly, they are supposed to be stationary and keep the gun pointed at the same spot of your car for all the beams to hit and bounce back. Easy ticket to beat if you don't admit guilt...end of story.

I used to play it by ear, and when I had a completely clean license, a few times I did admit guilt and got off with a warning. And that worked for quite a few stops, but eventually your luck runs out and you finally get a ticket. Now, I would never try it again. Rather try my own luck in court, then to toss away my only advantage and put all my hope in the officer giving a warning.

My insurance company only saw the lane change ticket and that was it. They never saw any of the other tickets and I'm not sure why. I only lost a discout with that ticket too.


Insurance companies don't constantly check MRVs to see if you have gotten new citations. They may go over a year without ever checking. I went almost a year without them finding out about 1...then just last month they did a random check. My point: I wouldn't count on them not finding out. If they run a random MRV search on you...they will...and it will cost you.