short ram?
smoke121212
02-11-2007, 05:35 AM
wats the differance between a normal cold air intake and a short ram intake?
xavier3jr
02-11-2007, 05:42 AM
exactly as it says the short ram is a short intake, it dosent almost hang to the ground a cold air intake almost hits the ground. most people dont use them because if it sucks up water you fucked.
smoke121212
02-11-2007, 05:47 AM
so your sayin a short ram would be better?
i was just researching the cold air intake and people are sayin that it only sucks up water is it is completally submerged in water. i also saw that a short ram does pretty much nothin except make your exhaust sound different cause it only sucks in the hot air from the engine compartment.
wat do you think?
i was just researching the cold air intake and people are sayin that it only sucks up water is it is completally submerged in water. i also saw that a short ram does pretty much nothin except make your exhaust sound different cause it only sucks in the hot air from the engine compartment.
wat do you think?
xavier3jr
02-11-2007, 08:12 AM
not ture. no intake add's more then 5-8 hp the short ram add's about 4-6 mabey according to what other mods you have. the cold air only add's very little more. id stick to the short ram for the simple fact that i wouldn't wana take that risk with my engine. and it does not have to be completly submerged to suck it up if you go over a huge puddle and doing WOT you goiong to suck up water you not ALWAYS fucked but 80% of the time you are. 2-3 HP isnt worth that chance to me.
L-Spec
02-11-2007, 10:32 AM
In my opinion, cold air FTW. Short ram reduces air restriction since it's shorter (duh), but absorbs the majority of the engine heat. Cold air intakes don't have to be that close to the ground, it can/should feed off vents or opening from the front facial of the vehicle for cooler air.
Unless you run into a hose, and the hose rips through your filter, jams itself down the intake pipe and sprays a jet of water into your engine, THEN I would be worried :lol: ..but a lot of cold air intakes are slightly angled. Any water that gets through the filter would drip back out and maybe only a mist of water would make it through, but the intense heat from the combustion of the engine would just make it evaporate anyway.
That being said, I've giggled my way through puddles with my car and it was fine. I would choose the cold air intake for the simple fact that it brings in cooler air. A cooler engine is a happy engine :2cents:
Unless you run into a hose, and the hose rips through your filter, jams itself down the intake pipe and sprays a jet of water into your engine, THEN I would be worried :lol: ..but a lot of cold air intakes are slightly angled. Any water that gets through the filter would drip back out and maybe only a mist of water would make it through, but the intense heat from the combustion of the engine would just make it evaporate anyway.
That being said, I've giggled my way through puddles with my car and it was fine. I would choose the cold air intake for the simple fact that it brings in cooler air. A cooler engine is a happy engine :2cents:
l_eclipse_l
02-11-2007, 01:30 PM
CAI > Short Ram
The filter pretty much has to be submerged and you have to be close to WOT to suck up any amount of water that will hydrolock you. I've been running with mine for 2 years now, and I have gone through MANY puddles and deep water with NO problems. You just need to be careful when theres a lot of water on the roads and keep your foot off the gas when going through big puddles.
My CAI is angled at the bottom and theres a breather halfway up the pipe for water to escape, so I'm not worried.
The filter pretty much has to be submerged and you have to be close to WOT to suck up any amount of water that will hydrolock you. I've been running with mine for 2 years now, and I have gone through MANY puddles and deep water with NO problems. You just need to be careful when theres a lot of water on the roads and keep your foot off the gas when going through big puddles.
My CAI is angled at the bottom and theres a breather halfway up the pipe for water to escape, so I'm not worried.
gthompson97
02-11-2007, 04:33 PM
I'd go with a shortram just because of the differences in price. A "true" CAI is not worth $200 for the maximum of 4-5 hp that you may get out of it. Get a $30 ebay short ram intake and it'll be fine. The difference in air temperature doesn't make much of a difference in our cars anyway. :2cents:
david-b
02-11-2007, 05:43 PM
I got a $30 short ram off ebay, then bought my guys CAI off his trashed car... did some cutting, and now I have a full CAI.
However, it hung really low, it was down to the splash shield. Driving on the tollroad one day after it rained, I was doing 80-90mph, and ran through a section of road that was flooded. Didn't see it coming. The car sputtered and came close to dying. Sucked in a lot of water, but didn't kill it. I was lucky. And careless. The next day I cut the lower pipe so the filter sat a little higher up then. Works great.
However, it hung really low, it was down to the splash shield. Driving on the tollroad one day after it rained, I was doing 80-90mph, and ran through a section of road that was flooded. Didn't see it coming. The car sputtered and came close to dying. Sucked in a lot of water, but didn't kill it. I was lucky. And careless. The next day I cut the lower pipe so the filter sat a little higher up then. Works great.
XeVeNskyLiNE
02-11-2007, 08:06 PM
My "CAI" was custom made out of some intake piping my friends had laying around. Once it was all said and done, we managaed to get positioned behind one of the radiator fans which seems pretty effecient since cool air is being forced into it even at a stand-still. Best part is that is was $Free.99.
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