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first road car WIP: Mini Cooper - Roadster Concept


rallymaster
02-08-2007, 08:53 PM
Hello all,

Welcome in my first road car thread, simply because it's the first road car i build ! :)
(except a modest 1/43 Peugeot 403 heller kit years ago...painted with brush... Hmm forget that)

Problem: I have a Mini Cooper MC67 winner; something normal for a guy building rally cars...
But I bought this kit during a time when I thought to build (almost) everything existing, whereas I don't really love the car and such former cars...
But this Tamiya kit is interesting, with engine.

So I had to find something original to build it other way than a rally car.
There are million possibilities with a Mini Cooper, as we all can see it in Mini collectors meetings.

After days thinking to build a surfer car with surf boards, or a "plein ciel" concept with a moving roof according to the Citroen 2CV model, I finally decided to completely cut off the roof and all windows and keep only windscreen to build a roadster.




Here it starts:


http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_1.jpg


Firts aim, make a fully smooth body except for the parts that hinge the doors.
A rear boot will have no sens on a roadster, so I filled it with putty.


http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_3.jpg


It took me some time to find wheels that could match with this car; I would like something bigger than the 13" (or even 12" ?) Minilite, but all wheels I had where too big...
I finally find some rims in a Tamiya Celica kit on which I will have to mold my own low-size tyres to make them enter wheel arch, but they would match and probably give a nice effect to the car. (hope so :naughty: )
I only chose to reduce a little bit their width.
(I think I won't show more of the wheels before they would be in place on the car, to see what effect they give ! :iceslolan )


http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_2.jpg



What I plan to do (but only plan at this moment):
- widering the body especially fenders, but not too much, mostly to be able to accept new wheels.
- adding new spoilers
- giving a left hand drive to the car
- give a new inside, seats, dashboard, steering wheel, gear lever...
- painting it two tones, I think to mat black and orange (black under the orange).
- detailling the engine and give it a nice paint scheme.
- opening air intakes in the front hood.


That's it for the moment.
all comments, critics and even ideas are very welcome ! :wink:

Phil
(I still can't believe it, I'm building anything else than a rally car... :banghead: :grinyes: )

auw12
02-08-2007, 10:46 PM
WOW Phil you know? I can't dispute those cute cars! And this one looks very interesting! Can't wait for more! :lol:

quadzero
02-08-2007, 11:19 PM
I think it's great that you are branching out from your normal genre. I like to build a variety of subjects just to try new ideas and keep things fresh. But, this looks really interesting and fun, I will be following along.

Kiss My Axe
02-09-2007, 12:38 AM
nice idea

rallymaster
02-09-2007, 09:31 AM
Hello, thanks for your words

It's been a long time I wanted to try something else. To be honnest I think I am a little fed up of all my rally cars (around 900 to buidl...:banghead: ) which ask much work and not as much pleasure. (moreover most of 1/43 are not accurate, and even don't allow modifications as I would like to...)

And I have a problem, I always want to do big project, big detailled cars etc but rarely see their end...

This time I really wanted to find back the pleasure of modelling without any pics or building instructions to follow with stress, just for fun !

Building detailled rally cars with much expectations put me on a wrong way, I was much more taken by the aim and the result than by the pleasure to build itself.

Well, this Mini project isn't neither a box stock build, but the only expectations would be those I give to the model ! So if I keep reasonnable... :naughty:
well I think I could do something good with it.

I recently decided to vary a little bit my collection, and build some sports cars, and I plan to build some cars I really love: one or two Porsche, Gallardo, Ferrari F355 & 308 and the awesome Audi R8 (when released) for example.

I won't let rally cars fall, but I really needed to find a new breath in my modelling affairs ! :wink:

And I have to say that AF and most of you and your great builds and skills are the essential of my motivation for that. So thank you for all encouragements and kind words :thumbsup:



I will update this thread later in the evening, after final sand work on the
body.


Phil

rallymaster
02-09-2007, 08:01 PM
hello,

After my :2cents: modeler psychology, time to update.
(if only I could make the same for the 99 argentina sub... but still no decals after 2 months and half in order)



I sanded all the body; I noticed that it's better to prepare to a mat paint effect.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_5b.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_5c.jpg

Some finishing sanding would be required.

After that I came to the wheels.

here are those that I firstly intended to use:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_013.jpg

Ugly, isn't it ? :evillol:

So I decided to scratch some new ones; I sacrified other unused wheels to get edges rims and original street mini wheels to get a center, then used plastic tubing to make the design...

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_014.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_015.jpg

I firstly thought more to something like that...

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/mini1.jpg

...but will finally get something close to original racing mini Minilite...

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_016.jpg


that's all for tonight


comments welcome
thanks for reading

Phil

rallymaster
02-11-2007, 08:23 PM
Update time ! :)

I thought that my scratch wheels would get more interest and reactions, so I hope I'm not coming back with another boring wheels session, because here is the process of this scratch :evillol:

The new rim:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_8a.jpg

the new hub and the 8 round spokes:
(please note that hub will be detailled after assembling)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_8b.jpg

assembled hub and spokes:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_8c.jpg

first fitting test after resize of the spokes:
(spokes will be deeper inside the wheel according to my idea)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_8d.jpg

full view of the process:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_8.jpg


All comments and opinions about my scratch wheels are very welcome, feel free to tell me if you think it's nice, ugly, good or bad choice etc.


Then I came back to the body;
I cut a paperboard disk to measure the size of the wheels arches to sand.
I verify if I did well by fitting the disk in the wheelarch:
(as you can see I finally decided to have a fully smooth body and cut off the doors hinges)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_9c.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_9.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_9a.jpg

Everything seems (almost) perfect.


I also started to work on the engine; nothing extraordinary for the moment, only painting.
Mini's engine blocks used to be fully dark green, and I firstly agreed to use this color, but as I intend to paint some engine parts (ignition wires, top of the block, for example) with the same color scheme that the body (orange so) I thought that the mix of green and orange wouldn't be nice...
I also wanted to give a modern look alike to the engine, and on my opinion green would be better for a classical look alike car with a dark green body than for this modern spirit roadster.

Here is where i am for the moment:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_10.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_10c.jpg


For the same reason (modernity) I decided not to use some parts of the kit like transmission and brakes but to add modern parts for these parts.


Don't hesitate to give your opinion or simply comment that, it's my first road car and maybe I don't have enough practice to feel the best choices for a Mini even if I have my own idea of the model of course :dunno:

Thanks for reading

Phil

cyberkid
02-12-2007, 09:52 AM
Great work so far on the body and the engine. I too agree that a green/orange engine would look.. erm.. off:rolleyes:.. Like what you did with it.
The 'spokes' of the rim kinda looks primitive without paint.. Are you planning to shape them more? Maybe a mock-up with the rims/wheels 'in' the body would do it more justice?

Steve

rsxse240
02-12-2007, 11:04 AM
I like the new rims. they are a bit plain, but that's ok. I can see them on the car (imagination works for me) but as for size, I think if they were a scale 14 inch, or 15 at MOST, they'd be perfect

rallymaster
02-12-2007, 06:55 PM
Hello,

thanks for posting your opinion.

I aggre with you, the rims and spokes really look "primitive" and even a little too big.

I could moke-up them in the bidy but I still have no tyres to put on, that's why I didn't do that but I will.
BTW i found a tyres donor kit this afternoon, a Honda civic hasegawa wasn't complete and I got it for e few euros, only for tyres.

I'd like to reshape the spokes a little bit but I don't really know how and what to do...
sand the back of the spokes to get only the external face round ?
sand the whole spoke to reduce its size ?

they are very fragile as they only fit with a piece of glue, I am a littl bit scared to brake them (I've already brake and reglue some spokes...)

I think I will make a mock-up to decide, according to your opinions.
I have to finish them, then detail the hub and apply primer; after that I think it will be esayer to decide.

Thanks for posting

maybe another update later in the evening (still working on engine)

Phil

rallymaster
02-12-2007, 10:42 PM
So here is the promissed upadte :)

I found these tyres for my model:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_12.jpg

mock-up:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_11b.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_11.jpg

They only aren't wide enough for the rims:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_12b.jpg

So I started the widering process, using two tyres to make one:

Cut 2 1/3 of the tyre width:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_13b.jpg

and join 2 cut parts in one:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_14.jpg

and now perfectly fit rims width:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_14b.jpg

and look fine on the car, does it ?

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_15.jpg

Next step is to mold a tyres set.


I came back on the engine. It's not very clean and well painted as I try to go fast and then go too fast, each time I take the engine in my hands to paint a side I catch the paint not dry on my fingers.

This time I stop there, and will make paint finish just before assembling engine on chassis frame.
I also have all its details to make.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_16b.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_16c.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_16d.jpg



Thanks for reading
comments welcome

Phil

quadzero
02-13-2007, 02:03 AM
Everything is really coming together. All the work on the rims looks really daunting but I think it's worth it. Nice save with the tires too.

rsxse240
02-13-2007, 08:18 AM
personally, I think it would have been better to cut down the rim than the tire, they are REALLY wide for that little car, but they do look good. are you going to put over fenders, or flares and have the wheels mounted outward like on DTM cars?

here's a though on the rims. make the spokes flat on the back, and bevel the outside end of each spoke just before it meets the rim to give it a little more character.

rallymaster
02-13-2007, 12:00 PM
Thanks guys,

Well, talking about the wheels, they probably look wide (too much ? :screwy: ), right.
But it's part of the effect I'm looking for, as I intend to figure the wheels to be partialy mounted over body line under extended fenders. (I imagine an extended fender covering half of wheel width)
something like the real car which is on the pic posted more above.

According to my idea, this mini roadster is more a fully modern car using a modified mini body than an improved original mini...
A kind of a concept car used for automotive show...? :naughty:

Am I wrong ? I don't know, I am really not a road car specialist, even if I have some ideas about was may be possible and what would be completely no sens and crazy. :rofl:

Just after having cut the tyres, I felt the same, I would better have done by reducing rims width than enlarging tyres... :frown:
But when I see the spokes width, enlarging the tyres was an evidence.
Spokes would be almost half width of the tyre if using the tyre as it was.

RSXSE240, so I agree with your though about spokes, I think I will try to make back of the spokes flat to reduce their width, especially That I would like to put them a little bit deeper in the rim.
but on the other hand this round spokes had to contribute to my idea (inspired of the new mini by BMW) of the roadster bye giving to the former mini body a new design and modern look alike with rounder lines and shapes...
And even with spokes fully on the edge of the rim it gives a similar effect...

I should probably try to paint a wheel to have better idea of what would be the result...

But anyway, I will have to make an edge in the inside of the wheels, tyre's valve will come through this edge.
So if I put the spokes too deep in the wheel, I won't have enough place for brakes system.

You're right quadzero, this work on rims is daunting, but worst is to find enough patience to see finished items beacause I'm sure (and will hardly believe it) that once the model finished I'll have forgotten all these wonders ! :naughty:

I think I will have very soon to decide exactly which choice applying to the rims, I have already chosen to enlarge the tyres, I can't go back any more on that point.
so let's go straight ! :iceslolan


But once more thank you all bringing your opinions and ideas to this build.


Phil

Ferrari TR
02-13-2007, 01:10 PM
Nice project.
How did you cut the tires? Every time I try I make a mess!

voyageur
02-13-2007, 01:36 PM
I really like the idea of a concept roadster :-)
Very nice progress so far!

But if the ride height is going to be like the mock-up it's going to look like a donk car as it sits way too high.



http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_11.jpg



You should probably modify the wheel arches as on the black (real) one.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/mini1.jpg

Just my :2cents:

rallymaster
02-13-2007, 05:40 PM
Hello voyageur,

Thanks for your kind words, happy to see this idea be a little popular. :grinyes:

you're right, I won't keep body height like that.

I started widering wheel arch (pics page one) and I will add some side skirts and front and rear spoilers to make the car seem lower.

But even with that and according to the pic I posted and you took back just above, I think I will have to cut and sand wheel arch higher...

I started opening the rear wheel arch on the chassis part this evening, but didn't take photos as I went on very slowly this evening (I was watching TV at the same time :evillol: ) so I wouldn't have interesting pics to show.

I also sanded spokes... seems better, not really for the look but mostly for the place earnt to put brakes inside the wheels ! :evillol:
I put in place an edge inside the wheel on which spokes will come.

after several mock-up I think that best looking is not toi put the spokes too deep inside the wheel, almost at its edge.
spokes design doesn't really match with a deep placement in the wheel.

That may be clearer with pics tomorrow and next update.


Phil

rallymaster
02-23-2007, 11:29 PM
Nice project.
How did you cut the tires? Every time I try I make a mess!


Hello,

Ferrari TR, all my apologizes for the delay to answer, I missed your post and left this project sleeping a few days.

To cut the tyre, I used a modelling scalpel; I let it slide on the tyre, making several rounds on it till having a few mm slit; and then I achieve the cut by cutting inside the slit like if it was a big good piece of meat ! :grinyes:

I sanded each edges, then glued it with super-glue ("cyanoacrylat" ??)

today I worked a little on the body, I may post some pics later.

I started widering the body and opened more adapted wheel arches.


Bye

Phil

rallymaster
02-24-2007, 12:09 AM
here is a new update.

I spent 5 hours correcting wheel arches to make them come higher and enlarging them with plastic card.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_18.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_18c.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_18a.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_18b.jpg

mock up with some tyres I still haven't tried and that I Finally will probably use instead of molding some new ones, because they perfectly fit the rim and the extended wheel arch.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_17.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_17b.jpg

then I started working on the rest of the body kit, especially side skirts.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_19c.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_19b.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_19a.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_19.jpg

Nothing isn't really online and straight yet, cos' I still have to put the modelling clay coat in which I will scupt the definitive body kit appearance.

It took me 5 hours to build what I show here... very long I think :screwy:


Thanks for reading
comments welcome

Phil

sportracer02
02-24-2007, 03:02 AM
Hi Phil,

this looks good so far. Appearance is better now (great foto, sebastian).

If I may give a hint: I wouldn´t let these widened wheel-arches as they are. Glue a small strip of sheet along the body on the wheel arches and fill the arches to that hight to get a a steeper surface.

I guess you will chop the window-frame ;-))

rallymaster
02-24-2007, 05:15 AM
Hi Phil,

this looks good so far. Appearance is better now (great foto, sebastian).

If I may give a hint: I wouldn´t let these widened wheel-arches as they are. Glue a small strip of sheet along the body on the wheel arches and fill the arches to that hight to get a a steeper surface.

I guess you will chop the window-frame ;-))


Hi Micha,

thanks for your contribution to this thread ! :wink:

I'm not sure to well undeerstand what your mean but I guessed we're talking about the same thing when you say that and when I say I will form the definitive wheel arch line in modelling clay.

I won't keep a so flat wheel arch (and even not so wide).

this styren structure is only the support for modelling clay which I can't apply directly and which will give the fender their final form and size.


Chopping the window frame wasn't part of my program, it would make me build a new wind screen... I think it's fine like that, as it isn't to big on my opinion...
but I will think about it, now.


thanks for giving your hint :wink:


Phil

voyageur
02-24-2007, 06:05 AM
Hi Phil,

it starts to look really good :-)
The tires suit the diameter of the wheel arch just perfect. I looking forward to see the progress...

Cheers
SEB

sportracer02
02-24-2007, 06:51 AM
Hi,

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/28/1077928/1024_6263663436653663.jpg


see the red circle, this is what I and you mean.

Chopping the windscreen shouldn´t be hard, also chopping the windscreen.
In contrary to the photo I´d think about using the upper frame on top of the windscreen.

rallymaster
02-24-2007, 06:46 PM
Hi,

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/28/1077928/1024_6263663436653663.jpg

see the red circle, this is what I and you mean.

that's it, right :wink:



Chopping the windscreen shouldn´t be hard, also chopping the windscreen.
In contrary to the photo I´d think about using the upper frame on top of the windscreen.

I would do the same as what you think if I decided to chop the windscreen, but I'm not very enthousiast with window frame shopping idea. :dunno:
I think it's fine like it is, but maybe, once everything in place concerning body and inside, I would change my mind...
In fact I wouldn't have a seat higher than top of the window, or a driver if there was one who see the road above the window and not through ! :naughty: :grinno:


Phil

rallymaster
02-24-2007, 07:46 PM
today update

the full body kit made of plastic card is in place:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_20.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_20b.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_20c.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_20d.jpg


Now modelling clay work can start, firstly with the top of the body (opposite to all that will be under the new plastic body kit):

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_21b.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_21.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_21c.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_21d.jpg


It will require several coats and a lot of sanding & finishing work to get the new body with correct and proportionnal shape on each side and a smooth looking and texture.


Thanks for reading
Comments welcome :wink:

Phil

zak78
02-25-2007, 08:18 PM
Wow, the plastic card bodykit is quite impressive! How did you get the final shape for the card used in front?

white97ex
02-25-2007, 09:33 PM
superb work thus far. Amazing work roughing out the body kit! What type of putty/clay are you using?

quadzero
02-26-2007, 03:15 AM
Wow, nice body work. You sure are taking this little mini to a new level. Looking forward to more.

rallymaster
02-26-2007, 03:40 AM
Hello,

thanks guys for your kind words and encouragements. :wink:


Wow, the plastic card bodykit is quite impressive! How did you get the final shape for the card used in front?

I cut a plastic card sheet larger and longer than the model, then I cut the curved form & right size, and finally I sand till getting a perfect fit...
that easyly takes 2/3 hours by part ! (including glue process and eventual mistake and re-do)


superb work thus far. Amazing work roughing out the body kit! What type of putty/clay are you using?

I'm using a modelling clay hardening in the air, I don't really know a brand as I take the first low cost I find in my favorite do-iy-yourself stores.
Most of the time there are German brands, as I live close to German bordery I suppose...? :dunno:
By experience, all modelling clay hardening in the air I used give the same result. I think they all are similar.


Wow, nice body work. You sure are taking this little mini to a new level. Looking forward to more.

I really hope so, because according to my first idea the new car shouldn't look too much like the former one.
Really like a concept car ! :naughty:


Thanks again
Update to come


Phil

rallymaster
02-26-2007, 05:00 AM
Quick update ! :grinyes:

I cleaned the floor and glued the part crossing the central tunnel, on which will come the frame separating cockpit and rear of the car:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_22.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_22b.jpg

I also came back to the engine, putting spark plugs and their wires:
(the wood stick is only there to move the engine without touching it with fingers :) )

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_23.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_23b.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_23c.jpg


Next update soon, perhaps already this evening.

thanks for reading
comments & critics always welcome :wink:

Phil

Mango_p
02-26-2007, 05:48 AM
Hey Phil!

I really like your project. I'm sure it will be cool!
I think you should keep the windscreen as it is now.. don't chop it! :)

Looking forward to follow every step of this build!

// Magnus

rallymaster
02-26-2007, 06:41 AM
Hey Phil!

I really like your project. I'm sure it will be cool!
I think you should keep the windscreen as it is now.. don't chop it! :)

Looking forward to follow every step of this build!

// Magnus


Thanks Magnus, I really appreciate this kind words ! :)

I took another look to the model, thinking about chopping as Micha said...

But i will follow your idea and my first one, keep the windscreen like it is, because with the body extensions the car is much wider than before, and chopping the windscreen would give to the car a strange appearance, something almost like "collapsed"... :uhoh: :p

So I won't chop the windscreen (and take much care not to break it as I move the body in all sens all the time to sand the modelling clay and have already scared myself several times with breaking plastic sounds... :disappoin )


thanks again to all who follow this project and sometimes let some words and ideas here.

Phil

Mr. Me.
02-26-2007, 07:02 AM
I love minis, they are so cute. keep it up

rallymaster
02-26-2007, 10:39 AM
Thank you, new update is here :wink:



I sanded all the modelling clay a first time, to see where second coat is needed.
Holes or cracks to fill, bad curve to correct etc etc

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_24.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_24b.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_24c.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_24d.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_24e.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_24f.jpg

I also added modelling clay on the bottom of the body kit, in fact under plastic card kit, and sanded it:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_25.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_25b.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_25c.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_25d.jpg

With the chassis:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_26.jpg

And on the tyres:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_26a.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_26b.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_26c.jpg


I still have to open hole(s) in rear spoiler for exhaust(s) and give a little more agressivity to the front, maybe by adding add some extra lights or airintakes for brakes...? :screwy:


I also started to work on some stuff for the inside. First scratch was easy, I made a no-skid plate for codriver, made in plastic cercling painted in aluminium:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_27.jpg

that part really pleases me, especially because it's really easy and quick to do !
contrary to the rest I've done til now :p


That's all for the moment.

Thanks for reading
comments welcome :wink:

Phil

white97ex
02-26-2007, 10:54 AM
looking good!

rallymaster
03-10-2007, 09:03 AM
Hello all,

time for a small update.

While sanding a fender I broke the modelling clay and had to restart the fender.

After that I let the modelling clay drying and hardening during several days and then sanded it, 400, 1000, 1500 and finally 2000 to get a smooth finish...
Not too bad, I'm satisfied - even if not 100% - about the result.

I painted the chassis with the color I'm aiming to build the model...
I'm not very enthousiast regarding the color, it looks too dark but I hope it will give better effect on the body once polished...

the pictures:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_28.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_28a.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_28b.jpg


thanks for reading
any comments are welcome

Phil

rallymaster
03-14-2007, 11:41 PM
Hello all,

I'm working very slowly these days but I can update this thread now.

If you look at the last pic of the last update you might see that the front wheel arch isn't perfectly round, so I re-put some modelling clay and spent once more a lot of time in drying-sanding-finishing-resanding etc process...
(not completely finish BTW)

The positive point about the body is that I finally found my definitive paint scheme, inspired by a photo of a Belgian rally car, which would mix the best way possible the orange and black colors I intended to paint since the start. :iceslolan
I won't say or show more before painting, I will keep the secret to get the maximum effect ! :evillol:

Well, I also spent some time to find some seats, racing look but not racing seats from any rally cars (hey, I need those seats !!) and finally found something interesting in a GT-Four kit:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_31.jpg

I think I will cut the top of the seat and rebuild it with holes for harnesses...
not sure because seat pleases me like that, too.
Don't know which racing style level I want those seats to be ! :naughty:

first work on the seats was to fill back and under hollow with modelling clay:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_31b.jpg

See them back in 24 hours when dried. :wave:


So next step, starting working on the inside, the reason why I'm going on so slowly...
I spend more time wondering how to do that, trying some things and some other ones...
I now finally get an idea which gives result.
Here I am at the moment:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_29.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_29a.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_29b.jpg


It starts looking what I expect it will ! :)
As you can notice, I repainted the chassis in black; the orange color I got didn't convinced me and black inside is part of my new paint and inside dressing project. :wink:


Now, the wheels... again and always the wheels. :rolleyes:
What a work to scratchbuild wheels ! :banghead:
It's the first time I make my own wheels, and probably the last one !
I think I will make my next projects depend on the wheels I have and not the ones I don't have !! :screwy: :p

outside:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_30.jpg

inside:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_30a.jpg

Of course it's only the first step, the designing step; now I have to clean the wheels and make their details and fixing system (certainly another funny :banghead: coming).


quick mock up to get an idea of the final look of the car:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_32a.jpg

Not too bad, even if of course seats would stand higher in the car and if most of the work is still ahead...
but it really starts to look like something interesting, don't you think, too ? :)


that's all for tonight

thanks for reading
feel free to comment and criticise

Phil

tajoe
03-15-2007, 12:35 AM
This is just way too weird:screwy: I love it!!! With the mods you are doing it's going to look so natural. Keep up the good work, I can't wait to see it finished.

quadzero
03-15-2007, 01:54 AM
I'm really looking forward to seeing all your efforts under a coat of paint. This will be a very special car.

lechatnoir82
03-15-2007, 03:24 AM
Wow, what an undertaking! Can't wait to see more.

DVST8R
03-20-2007, 10:26 PM
Wow awesome car. Looks really weird (in a good way) to see a mini thats so wide.

rallymaster
03-29-2007, 04:38 PM
Hello,

thanks mates for your kind words, really appreciated.
Well, here is the new update

I primed the body with a coat of white, to see where finishing putty work was needed.

then I apply putty with a teeth stick and smooth it, and finally sanded it.
here is where I am now, everything is done except a few areas on the rear to be sanded:


http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_33.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_33a.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_33c.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_33b.jpg



I now consider the body is finished and only requires its paint. :)

Hope you enjoy the shape and the look


Thanks for reading
comments and critics very welcome

Phil

Enzoenvy1
03-29-2007, 04:52 PM
Throw some color on that bad boy and show us!!!

voyageur
03-29-2007, 05:38 PM
WOW, this is coming along great. Keep the updates coming...

rallymaster
03-29-2007, 08:31 PM
Thanks guys for you comments



Throw some color on that bad boy and show us!!!

hehehe it's coming ! soon... :grinyes:

WOW, this is coming along great. Keep the updates coming...

Ok so let's go updating with this evening work :wink:


I worked on the wheels, scratching the wheels hubs; I turned them from a styren stick with my dremmel:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_34b.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_35.jpg

I glued them to the center of the wheel already handing the spokes, and drilled the hole...

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_36.jpg

... in which will come through the axle (like I figure it on this pic with a tooth stick):

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_37b.jpg

Hub and spokes alone, out of the rim:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_38.jpg

The four rims almost ready for painting (bolts still to be done):

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_39.jpg


Now I have to make the "carry-hub" (correct english word ??) but for that I need to build the rest of the chassis... :rolleyes:


Then I came back to the inside, starting dressing up the door's inside, firstly by adding the handle:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_40.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/phil67c/Mini%20Cooper%20Roadster/Mini_40b.jpg



Ok that's all for tonight, hoping you enjoy my work :naughty:


Comments and critics welcome, feel free to add a few words to this thread :wink:


Phil

OrangeR
03-30-2007, 01:21 AM
Very nice work Phil!
You make rims man, RIMS from scratch! That's incredible IMO
I too like the the body modifications. :thumbsup:

Mango_p
05-28-2007, 05:40 AM
Hi!

How is the progress on this one? I'd love to see more :)

// Magnus

klutz_100
05-28-2007, 06:09 AM
How is the progress on this one? I'd love to see more :)
:iagree:

rallymaster
05-28-2007, 09:40 AM
Hi buddies,

thanks for your enquiry about this project. :evillol:

I must confess it's sleeping at that time...
This one and the 99 RA Sub', too...
and what about the AF 60 red years 612 scaglietti...? :rolleyes:
Project on which I already started working on weeks ago, fortunateley without starting a WIP here before being sure to go to the end...

New job, new timetable, not much time any more for modeling... :frown:
the only free time I have for the moment goes to the current rallye and hill climb racing season of my pilots association...

I'm confused to have stoped at that part of the build.
I will try to come back to the body painting work, to have something to share before being able to find enough time to come back to the time consuming scratch building and inside work.

But one thing is sure: I won't let this project fall down ! :naughty:


Thanks for your support ! :wink:

Mango_p
05-29-2007, 04:22 AM
Hi buddies,

thanks for your enquiry about this project. :evillol:

I must confess it's sleeping at that time...
This one and the 99 RA Sub', too...
and what about the AF 60 red years 612 scaglietti...? :rolleyes:
Project on which I already started working on weeks ago, fortunateley without starting a WIP here before being sure to go to the end...

New job, new timetable, not much time any more for modeling... :frown:
the only free time I have for the moment goes to the current rallye and hill climb racing season of my pilots association...

I'm confused to have stoped at that part of the build.
I will try to come back to the body painting work, to have something to share before being able to find enough time to come back to the time consuming scratch building and inside work.

But one thing is sure: I won't let this project fall down ! :naughty:


Thanks for your support ! :wink:

Oh I see.. let us know when you wake them up :iceslolan
I'll be waiting :popcorn: :p

Maybe of topic but what kind of car do you drive in rally and hill climb? Nice to hear there are scale 1:1 rallydrivers here too ;) I'm currently about to take my license for rally and will hopefully drive in the future :)

// Magnus

rallymaster
06-02-2007, 01:47 PM
Maybe of topic but what kind of car do you drive in rally and hill climb? Nice to hear there are scale 1:1 rallydrivers here too ;) I'm currently about to take my license for rally and will hopefully drive in the future :)
// Magnus


Well, in fact I don't drive myself in official competitions, I've sometimes been codriver, but I still don't own my own car.
I only drove a car in "navigation" (?) rallying (something close to historic rallies rules, some marks to find along the roads themselves to find not to loose points, without time sections to race through, to determinate winner)
My time given to the association mostly consists in making photos & articles for the newspaper, organizing and participating to some events linked to our activities (which are sports car in competition and hobby + modeling + different events linked to the city and country activities or to the ones of our sponsors - open house of a car brand for example...) and assuming all marketing affairs (sponsorship, etc etc).

In 2007 the cars in our association are two Peugeot 106 rally (category N1 = production under 1400 cm3), one Peugeot 205 rally (same as both 106's) and a Subaru Impreza GT (category N4) all driven in hill calimb and rally according to the different events rules. (the Sub' cannot be driven in non national hill climb events for example)

ketje
06-02-2007, 02:27 PM
very nice work :iceslolan

Mango_p
06-03-2007, 08:42 AM
Well, in fact I don't drive myself in official competitions, I've sometimes been codriver, but I still don't own my own car.
I only drove a car in "navigation" (?) rallying (something close to historic rallies rules, some marks to find along the roads themselves to find not to loose points, without time sections to race through, to determinate winner)
My time given to the association mostly consists in making photos & articles for the newspaper, organizing and participating to some events linked to our activities (which are sports car in competition and hobby + modeling + different events linked to the city and country activities or to the ones of our sponsors - open house of a car brand for example...) and assuming all marketing affairs (sponsorship, etc etc).

In 2007 the cars in our association are two Peugeot 106 rally (category N1 = production under 1400 cm3), one Peugeot 205 rally (same as both 106's) and a Subaru Impreza GT (category N4) all driven in hill calimb and rally according to the different events rules. (the Sub' cannot be driven in non national hill climb events for example)

Oh, ok..I misunderstood..but close enough :) Sounds like alot of work! It's great to hear from people involved in this awsome sport in real life anyway :)

Once again, I can't wait to see the progress of your great projects :)

// Magnus

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