Veilside Supra vs. Hennessy Z06

Here's a good one...a Veilside Supra vs. a Hennessy Z600 Z06 (on N20). I'm talking about the Veilside Combat-R (I think thats it) with 1001 hp (the one in the Mclaren v. Supra video), and the 600 HP Z06 on a 200 lbs. shot of N20. The Z600 on N20 should amount to 750rwhp(about 930 bhp), and aound 900 lbs-ft of torque:eek: Oh yeah, the Z06 is also about 400 lbs. lighter if I'm correct. Who would you put your money on?

**There is actually a guy in the Corvette Forum that is getting this done to his Z06. The numbers I posted were from Hennessy himself.

Tough choice, i went with the Z06 because i am in love with that car, its a freaking beast, and with N20 it would be unstoppable, is there any video of this super vette?

i dont know where to take this...
it depends on where we are talking about a battle... on a twisty track, topend, dragstrip?
hmm...
the obvious note here though, is that the 1001hp is at the flywheel, so the difference is only about 70ish hp... at the fly...
when you compute in the 400lb diff in wt, the zo6 will obviously stomp it. another note, is that the hp/ cu in in the zo6 is not as high, which is more reliable... less strain w/ less hp/l also...
so i go zo6... and the vette looks better

i say vette. much nicer and everything already's been said.

still waiting for a supra guy to reply so we can have a flame war:devil:

I said Supra. :) What's the Comparison here? 1/4 Mile? Looks Competition? Top End Speed? As soon as I get an Answer I'll post again so I don't make a Dumbass of myself.

hmmm, let's say 1/4 mile, around a track, and top end (even though the supra probably wins here). Looks just depend on the person.

it depends on the driver but I'll say the Corvette Z600 with juice.

I just like the supra but with a 200lb shot. I dunno. I like japanese cars.

I'll put out any flames. he he:spit: :angryfire

i like jap cars but a vette with a big shot of go juice would be hard to beat except top end i think
sleepy:devil:

YOU probably right.

I hate the Supra, and I live in America so.... Z06. :flipa:

except for the fact that the zo6 has a topend of almost 200 mph... yeah, okay... and that is stock... right... did we forget that? stock versus stock it would kill... and if you tt it, it would, hmm, the word? oh yeah. kill. topend, track, 1/4... whatever... it would dominate...

for example... it took about 1000hp in a tt supra in superstreet, or import tuner, i forgot to go about 220mph...
it takes a tt lingefelter vette like 750hp to hit 202... hmm... math here... not to mention the better rigidity and aerodynamics...
and im an import guy here... the zo6 just makes sense

Okay, I think the Z06 would smoke the Supra in the 1/4 mile, but the Supra would win (Not by very Much on the Track) and the Top End speed, I'm saying that the Vette has better handling but isn't qutie as powerful as the Supra, NOS also can't be used for a Lap around the Track, well not the whole lap anyways.

how can a vette, with all that lowend power not be as strong as a supra? doesnt make sense... and if we are talking non nos, the vette w/ a ttv8 would destroy a supra... you are pretty maxed at 1200 hp in a supratt, but a vette is still able to pull more out... think about it... and why could it not take it in topend? the fastest factory car is an na mclaren, so why could a vette not take a supra?

I see, your saying that the big V-8 would be better for pulling otu of turns? Has anybody posted the top end speeds (Relatively) of these cars?

in a manner of speaking...
the lowend tq does a huge amt of pulling...
i know that the turbos can help there, but if you drop really low in a corner, and the revs drop way down, the v8 has the advantage...
another note though, is that the supra has tons of power all over with the tts if tuned right, so they would be comparable...
but the difference to me would be in the dollars spent category...
you would need to spend lots more on a supra to get say, 700hp vs a zo6...
also... the zo6 suspension is godlike from the factory... not too much tweaking necessary there... vs the supra which needs lots...
wish i had the top speeds...
but i know that a purpose built supra can hit 220mph topend... and that is HEAVILY MODDED.
vs the stock numbers of a zo6 hittin 171...
what would it take to get a supra to hit 171? i guess that is the real question... what would it take for a supra to beat what the zo6 is stock...

Originally posted by flylwsi
except for the fact that the zo6 has a topend of almost 200 mph... yeah, okay... and that is stock... right... did we forget that? stock versus stock it would kill... and if you tt it, it would, hmm, the word? oh yeah. kill. topend, track, 1/4... whatever... it would dominate...

for example... it took about 1000hp in a tt supra in superstreet, or import tuner, i forgot to go about 220mph...
it takes a tt lingefelter vette like 750hp to hit 202... hmm... math here... not to mention the better rigidity and aerodynamics...
and im an import guy here... the zo6 just makes sense

Actually, Lingenfelter got 226mph out of a 650hp turbo LS1, but that was geared high. So with a 650-700hp Z06(without the N20) geared lower, it could easily hit 200...

Even though I dont care for the Veilside body kit, Id prefer to have a Supra with stock body, Id still go with the Supra, I love this car...

im talkin about the one a while ago that was on motortrend tv... the white one... it is a lowend turbo package, not the balls out one...

oh, it was probably the stage one package. The 226mph is the stage two. Their both great though:)

my point. so it kills the supra, and makes it to 220ish and is still streetable, compared to the purpose built high speed jdm cars...

That 200lb shot would blow the fuck outta the engine, but it would be feckin fast!!!

I will read the rest later, and post a more educated response.

a 200 hp shot o the juice is nothing. if your motor is built for it, and you know how to run the shiet, you can run tons. there are prostock drag cars runnin two stages of nos, and the first one is like 400ish, w/ a second stage kickin in at around 800hp of nos... it can be done
and yes i know that those cars are torn apart all the time, but if you build it right, you can run that much hp in nos and be safe.

The guy that is actually getting this done to his car is having Hennessey install it while he is doing the rest of the work. I'm sure the take the NOS into consideration.

my point exactly... we seem to think the same way there mr. hakka....

I guess so...:)

This has gotta be like my 4th time stating the superiority of the Corvette. The Lingenfelter Corvette does the quarter in 9.524 @ 145.25 miles per hour without the aid of nitrous oxide. The stock 2002 Corvette Z06 in Car and Driver magazine raced a 2002 Porsche 911 Turbo around a track using their own experienced drivers from each company. The Corvette won by .7 seconds. Good stuff. The Z06 is the ultimate American sportscar.

Here's a video of LPE 427 CID Twin Turbo C5 Corvette AUTOMATIC totally destroying a Dodge Viper.
http://lingenfelter.com/main/lpe_tt.avi

never a fan of the supra, and i love the Z06. soooo Z06 it is. the Z06 is one of hte only american cars that i like.

I to am not a fan of the supra. Big and heavy.

Something about this thread as I read it though just struck me funny. Why are you comparing a car with Nos against one without? Just asking. If you go on about well the supra is turbo charged, too bad would be my answer to that because that is how it came factory.
Don't get me wrong I am not flaming you, but I think a more realistic comparison would have been in order. Remove the nos shit and then make a viable comparison. Though things may not change at least it would a more justifiable comparison.

Besides the Veilside supra is not the baddest out there. Jun's is not slouch either and has proven that over time. Now here is a comparison for you to do since you seem to be hacking on the supra (cool) but lets wait for HKS to finish theirs off. Now that would be an interesting one to say the least as it will not be some slow 1000 hp one. With the list I have seen it will be closer to 1,600 hp without Nos. But in the mean time.

I will take the Vette. That is unless you want to go against the Godzilla ;)

what about the veilside RX-7

http://www.fordfans1.homestead.com/FORDFAN1.html

http://www.veilside.com

Or the Top Secret Supra?

Lets get real jiggy and throw in a HKS Skyline.

or how about we throw in the callaway sledgehammer ;) :D
even the jun supras topspeed racer couldnt break the callaways 254.7 MPH topend, i'm not positive on the rules, but i'm pretty sure the cars need to be streetable to take the record from callaway (which correct me if i'm wrong but his 254 mph run was even done on pump gas)
turbo cars, or at least large turbo ones, will have lag. coming out of a turn if the supra wasnt spooled he wont have the power to come out of the turn as fast, or if he spools mid turn hes likely to spinout. i'd give the track to the supra simply because like someone said, you cant spray the Z06 the entire track, a 10# bottle would be dry in ~1 min so it wouldnt really be worth it to even have the bottle in the car. if you were comparing say lingenfelters stage 2 it would be a good race, or the similarly HP'd 427TT I'd have to give it to the vette.

this is america speaking! :D , i got 4 words... Z-0-F*****G-6 :D :D :D :D :D i wonder if the guy in the supra could make out the back of the vette driver's head? my biased opinion may not matter until you concider the fact that i love supras more thn anything (except the Z06)... come on, LOOK AT IT!!! it LOOKS like it would swallow the Supra, the hennessey Z06 guy is my new hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!