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Turbo Advice


LYLMIK
09-30-2002, 01:26 AM
HI guys!!!

I'm after the turbo for my b16a'd crx, t3t4/t34, whatever the designation, anyone from australia know where one can be aquired?

Emailed some guy called bob(suprisingly) from adelaidejap, he said never heard of such hybrid.

help!!!!!:( :( :(

MyFirst4G
09-30-2002, 01:36 AM
uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh....... :confused: :confused: :confused: ....... hhhhhhhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuu

SkyNex721
09-30-2002, 01:52 AM
B16's aren't the best engine to put a turbo on. I would suggest an LS motor. But if you are set on turboing your b16, it's still possible.

And it's t3/t4 turbo

As far as Australia is concerned, I can't help ya bro. I live in Texas. :bandit:

dropshop
09-30-2002, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by SkyNex721
B16's aren't the best engine to put a turbo on. I would suggest an LS motor. But if you are set on turboing your b16, it's still possible.

And it's t3/t4 turbo

As far as Australia is concerned, I can't help ya bro. I live in Texas. :bandit:


That has to be the stupidest thing ive ever read
you are a fool
the B16 has the best rod/stroke ratio of any honda motor and is perfect for high revs and boost because of the rod angles
you are such a fool stop talking out your ass

civicHBsi91
09-30-2002, 05:27 PM
dont need to name calling, b18's are better for turbo im sure thats what he was trying to say but just came off in the wrong way

dropshop
09-30-2002, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by civicHBsi91
dont need to name calling, b18's are better for turbo im sure thats what he was trying to say but just came off in the wrong way

why? tell me why they are better?
lower compression ratio maybe?
still doenst make up for the sheer geometry advantage a B16 has

civicHBsi91
09-30-2002, 06:24 PM
chill out dude, and im taking geometry and i havent heard anything about a b16..........lol :flipa:

DRCustom
10-01-2002, 01:33 AM
I don't know jack about where you are from, but I'd bet there is an online place that mail orders them new. If you are going to put it all together yourself, try to find someone locally that has experience with custom setups. I'm not sure if anyone sells a turbo kit for those. If you don't mind something used, I bet you could find one off of a dead Saab or Volvo or something at the boneyard.


Originally posted by dropshop



That has to be the stupidest thing ive ever read
you are a fool
the B16 has the best rod/stroke ratio of any honda motor and is perfect for high revs and boost because of the rod angles
you are such a fool stop talking out your ass

b16's were never meant to be turbo'd, and are not that good for it, but...
It has, and can be done successfully, but there are still many reasons it is not a great turbo motor. Agreed it has a nice bore/stroke for high revs, but there is more to a motor than it's bore/stroke.

I don't know how you can justify calling someone a fool because they simply stated a well known fact...
"Better to leave your mouth closed and let everyone think you are a fool, than to open your mouth and prove it."

Cjz89civic
10-01-2002, 01:40 AM
Doh!!!!!!!! Bart!!!!!!!

ci5ic
10-01-2002, 04:32 PM
Well, I don't know the answer to the B16 vs. B18 question. I've heard that the B18 is better for turbo applications, but I've never heard any supporting reasons for that.

Personally, I know that Dropshop has quite a bit of experience with Turbo on various engines, so I would tend to take his word over most everyone elses on this forum...

That's my 1¢ + 1¢

DRCustom
10-01-2002, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by ci5ic
Personally, I know that Dropshop has quite a bit of experience with Turbo on various engines...

Have you actually seen any of his work?

MyFirst4G
10-01-2002, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by DRCustom


Have you actually seen any of his work?

ci5ic
10-01-2002, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by DRCustom
Have you actually seen any of his work?

www.thedropshop.tv

DRCustom
10-02-2002, 12:11 AM
this is what I found...

I checked out the entire site, and only saw 3 engines with turbo. Not a single one was a b16.

Unless you truly have personal experience with his work, I don't think his word is worth anymore than anyone elses. I also don't see any timeslips.

My friends have more cars and mods than that site; I wasn't impressed. Everyone and thier grandma has a website these days.

I'm not talking anyone down, It's just that what you are saying has no apparent backing.

MyFirst4G
10-02-2002, 12:14 AM
Hmm.... i could have sworn that i posted something in the reply box.... i guess stupid AF fuked up AGAIN!, o well.... i dont wanna get banned like SOME people!

91civicDXdude
10-02-2002, 01:44 AM
just think about it really. the b16 is a harder running higher revving engine than the b18. granted, the b18 has lower compression, but if you are going to build a b16 to be used for turbo you're not going to keep the stock compression ratio if you hope to boost any at all. so if you're talking bone stock internals, the b18 probably would be a better bet. but if you're looking for gross horsepower and a 9,000 RPM screaming boosted banshee, go for the b16.

VTEC IS GOD

91zc
10-02-2002, 07:58 AM
If we are talking stock for stock the b18a motor is better for boost. The rods seem to hold out longer under boost than the b16 rods. But the b16 should not be overlooked when it comes to boost. Many have been successfully boosted. But if you are building up the motor before boosting each one would be a perfect candidate. I really don't like this b18 vs. b16 argument when it comes to turbo application. They are both good for boost if built but the b18 is better if you are using stock internals. But then again it all depends on the engine management system used and how well the setup is tuned.

LYLMIK
10-02-2002, 06:15 PM
actually want to replace the entire guts of the engine with near-R-Type internals and then slap a turbo on, thinking about stand-alone, but vafc at the very least, been told that it can be done, adjust the vtec engagement revs to hit 500 rpm before the turbo.

What do you think guys, the order of doing things?
I have to ask, very new at this:

b16a install(done)
suspension
rims & tyres
internals+turbo(prob rebuilt, too much for fresh one)+fuel management?
(last one's gonna be a bundle, damn!)
Thanks for all the good work you are doing educating the novice!!!:confused:

DRCustom
10-02-2002, 07:43 PM
It sounds like you have a decent plan, but I'm not sure about the specifics. I know many people have succesfully put turbo on a b16. Try to get ahold of someone who has already done close to what you have before, or a shop that has proven experience with similar setups.

The stand alone is nice, and will make a difference, but will be one hell of a headache unless you have the abilities/resorces to really tweak and tune, and it's not really necessary. I would suggest getting ahold of Hondata, or a similar company, and see what they have to offer. That would probably be good enough, and a much cheaper alternative.

With a faster motor, and better handling, you'll be ripping around all over the place, so if ever a just in case, you'll want to be able to stop. Upgrade those brakes, if not before the suspension.

Sounds good.

optimuspeterson
10-02-2002, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by LYLMIK
HI guys!!!

I'm after the turbo for my b16a'd crx, t3t4/t34, whatever the designation, anyone from australia know where one can be aquired?

Emailed some guy called bob(suprisingly) from adelaidejap, he said never heard of such hybrid.

help!!!!!:( :( :(

there is such a thing as a t3/t4, but i don't think this is the turbo you would want. It doesn't spool up unitl 4k and hondas aren't known for their low end power, so that would be some killer lag.

you can use any turbo that your little heart desires. The hardest part will be finding a turbo manifold to fit your engine. Go look up some turbos from turbonetics or some mitsubishi turbos such as the Big 16g and Super 20g. I myslef have a super 16g and it spools up by 3k and it will support over 400 hp.

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