hhr steering by-wire

put this in the hhr section too but it seems kinda quiet there. hopefully ill get more eyes on this here.

a friend of mine just put her 2006 hhr into a wall. she was making a right turn into a shopping center and was going about 25-30 mph so it was a fast turn but i wouldnt think that wouldve been the problem from the way the wreck looked. she claims she started to turn the steering wheel and it started to turn the car but then wouldnt turn the wheels anymore. she then turned to wheel all the way and still nothing and then she hit the shopping center sign. I was just wondering if anyone has heard of the electronic steering systems in these cars failing. She has had a couple electrical issues already with the car that would come and go and the dealer could never find anything wrong.

My only suggestion, and something I just tried fo ryou is the NHTSA records. Hwever, their site was being incredibly frustrating. However they track patterns in vehilce incidents and reports which can eventually lead to involuntary manufacturer recalls, etc.

I personally have been skepticl of the drive by wire systems. To me, it' no different than the steering wheel and pedals I have for my videogame systems, and even that does not always respond to the movement I selected.

Also, this is a main reason why when a new car, or redesign comes out, or new technology in thsi case, I always sit back and watch for a few years for pattern problems before I'd even think about buying the vehicle or recommending it, 5th Gen might be a different story tho :lol:

is that the little milk truck looking thing chevy has out? and drive by wire? hell naaaa, i dont think e ready 4 that kind of stuff in a car....hell man cant get a damn jag to stay on the road for a full year, so i know we dont need that kind of stuff on cars yet...smh

thats exactly how i feel about it. if one of those parts fail you are pretty much screwed

Well... if something mechanical fails, at least you can tell and find it... something fails that's electrical good luck finding it. I guess that was the dealership's problem. They couldn't find the issue. Sounds like a ground came undone, or loose connection somewhere.

I'd like to know what the dealer says now.

is that the little milk truck looking thing chevy has out? and drive by wire? hell naaaa, i dont think e ready 4 that kind of stuff in a car....hell man cant get a damn jag to stay on the road for a full year, so i know we dont need that kind of stuff on cars yet...smh

it's already in cars

it's already in cars
Apparently somebody has one... and it broke.

i know, and im screaming recall them all...its hell on wheels!! what all can the car do on its own?

well toyota/lexus has cars that parallel park themselves now... and they're saying that OBDIII will be able to let police cut the ignition on a car if its say stolen, running from the cops, etc... also saying it'll be able to limit speed to the speed limit or some other BS.

Screw that.

yeah and those parallel park cars dont work at all. I saw a video of someone trying to use it and the car just kept wanting to back up into another car. They kept having to abort it by pushing the brake otherwise they would have been hitting cars.

F THAT. Old school.. no comptuers, no EFI, no nothing tht someone else can control. If I need to do 180mph or 0-60 in 2 seconds (that'd be nice) I don't want some pencil-necked, dick-breathed, ass-lipped, douche-bag stopping me from doing it.

Christ... We are becoming a communist state! You pay 30-50 grand for a fringgin car and some idiot can control it... NOT! No school like the old school. I actually read an article that said the editors went to a so-cal car crusher and bought a 68 maro that was about to be crushed for like $500, took it to an emissions testing center and it passed without any problem whatsoever. Ain't NO-ONE ever going to stop my maro with a damned computer, telephone or whatever. They want to stop it... they're going to have to cut me a check for $40 grand first, and then they can do what they want with it.

Oh and as far as these license plate with RFID tags in them... well mine just might have to get bent and broken in that corner. Pricks. We are turning into a military state... with Nancy fucking Pelosi and the California fucktards calling the shots. Better hope Thuner Thighs Clinton doesn't win the 08 elections, not only will she regulate the PISS out of the automotive industry, but she'll raise the taxes so high that you won't be able to afford gas to dirve your maro. If she gets elected, I'm going on welfare... probably make more than I do now.

EDIT: I meant California Legislature, not citizenry... just to clear that up.)

so uh, Earl... How do you really feel? :)

cant say the man is wrong... i pray to God the country doesn't go that direction though...its not very likely but there is potential for it to happen

btw his name is jim not earl...its explained in his sig.

just a little fyi for ya

and they're saying that OBDIII will be able to let police cut the ignition on a car if its say stolen, running from the cops, etc... also saying it'll be able to limit speed to the speed limit or some other BS.

Screw that.

Actually I remember reading an article somewhere where the police were chasing a stolen car (I watn to say a Escalade) with the OnStar system and they had OnStar tap in and shut the injectors off.

Actually I remember reading an article somewhere where the police were chasing a stolen car (I watn to say a Escalade) with the OnStar system and they had OnStar tap in and shut the injectors off.

I would have driven the damned thing through the dealership window and then demanded my money back. Unless it was leased... you're only renting at that point anyway, but if you owned it...

lol...we called jim earl for like a year b4 we got that one cleared up lmao

I wouldn't care if the police could shut off cars that were not pulling over. I like that actually, it would be better then some asshole in a stolen car slamming into the back of you and getting stopped that way.

I'd support it if it were used like in the onstar example where they shut off a stolen car that was in a pursuit. Someone could have been killed if it had gone on longer and their would be a lot of property damage... and I bet whoever's car that was is happy it came back to them in one piece.


However limiting the car's ability to speed is a wrong. There are certain times when speeding is acceptable. What if someone was trying to kill you chasing you in a car they had tampered with so the ODB3 didn't control the car?

Of course it would make movies a lot better... The hero is driving through city at night minding his own business, when he discovers there is a time bomb in his car that is about to blow up. He slams on the gas and tries to get out of the city and abandon his car before it blows up, but discovers that his car with on board diagnostic version 3 is limiting his speed. He will never make it out at this pace. In a last ditch effort he dives out of the vehicle to save himself, but alas his car knows he has left his vehicle and stops right beside him. The time bomb explodes killing the hero and leveling a nearby building killing everyone in it as well.

hahaha!!!! lol

All of the electronics and plastic put on cars these days cracks me up. If you cant parallel park, get a bike. If you like to speed have fun with paying the tickets and paying the high insurance rates. If you simply cant drive and run into a bunch of stuff, beware because if you run into me while im in the catalina you might as well consider yourself in the market for a new car.

While people are getting electrical diagnostics done and replacing a bunch of expensive sensors, i will buy a DR. Pepper and a new video game or something.