2002 Civic Si
Psch91
09-28-2002, 01:13 PM
Hey, im thinking of selling my current car and getting the 2002 Civic Si, what do you guys think?
Fly Rice Racer
09-29-2002, 09:09 AM
I have yet to hear of any problems about the 02 civic Si.
I got a 02 civic EX because I didn't like the egg shape of the new Si. Looked too station wagon like for me. It wasn't important enough for me to spend $3000-$4000 more to get a station wagon that gets 30-40 more horsepower.
Also, I didn't feel totally comfortable with the stick shift.
After some modifications, mine will be able to go faster than that.
Either way, Civics are always strong cars with long lives.
Good Luck
I got a 02 civic EX because I didn't like the egg shape of the new Si. Looked too station wagon like for me. It wasn't important enough for me to spend $3000-$4000 more to get a station wagon that gets 30-40 more horsepower.
Also, I didn't feel totally comfortable with the stick shift.
After some modifications, mine will be able to go faster than that.
Either way, Civics are always strong cars with long lives.
Good Luck
b16aDOHCVTEC
10-03-2002, 05:45 PM
idunno all the stuff u said about the Si but if i were u i would buy an Si...the extra money is DEF worth it and itz an AWESOME car ( i OWN one) itz unique and not to mention my GIRLFRIEND drivez a (STICK) 2k1 Civic Coupe EX... the EP (2002 Si) is VERY powerful, smooth and is generally a good car.. not to mention the K20A motor has TONS of potential and can go a lot further than the SOHC VTEC that the EXz have...
Go wit the 2k2 Si!!!!! EPz all the way!!!!
Visit www.ephatch.com for more info!
-Mike
Go wit the 2k2 Si!!!!! EPz all the way!!!!
Visit www.ephatch.com for more info!
-Mike
civickiller
10-05-2002, 11:17 PM
what are you guys talking about. those new si's look so ugly its no even funny. i bet it only runs like high 15s too
emerge
10-07-2002, 09:00 AM
i think if u slammed the new Si, it would look perfectly fine. and when u race someone you can just be like "ooo.. you got beat by my egg-mobile" :p
b16aDOHCVTEC
10-08-2002, 08:29 PM
aww thatz cute... ur tryin to make up for ur inferior engine (lolz SOHC VTEC....u call that POWER?) by talkin a lot of smack... hehe no matta wha u THINK about the way our carz LOOK..we can walk B16As all day long...lolz...not to mention ur D16Z6 pos lolz....) thatz ok tho... hehehe
-Mike
PS- dont reply to this post all pissed off cuz it will probably be my last on this forum... www.EPHATCH.com is a better way to spend my free time than talkin to a bunch of ricerz that dunno wha theyre talkin about...
PSS- i hope i didnt offend anyone (that didnt offend me...) i dont mean anything by it....im just defending my car (especially since itz betta than urz.... :licker: )
B16A-the BEAUTIFUL beginnings
K20A-the AWESOME outcome...
-Mike
PS- dont reply to this post all pissed off cuz it will probably be my last on this forum... www.EPHATCH.com is a better way to spend my free time than talkin to a bunch of ricerz that dunno wha theyre talkin about...
PSS- i hope i didnt offend anyone (that didnt offend me...) i dont mean anything by it....im just defending my car (especially since itz betta than urz.... :licker: )
B16A-the BEAUTIFUL beginnings
K20A-the AWESOME outcome...
relientokay
10-09-2002, 02:55 PM
:ylsuper :ylsuper ROCK ON MAN!!!!!!
02SilverSiHB
03-13-2003, 01:44 AM
I love my egg :)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p3f2d07c5ae465cd08a6266d0e570b1ac/fd00a13a.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid44/p921a7637e0c67dfe6c8ebe90553a32c8/fcdd8b5c.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid47/pb45e2606b7ec29b24e148dbaa6b962dd/fcc6b69d.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid44/pdec46ff0ec68745f4d69e784cabdca26/fcdd8b5f.jpg
And for that EX fellow who says he can add a few mods and be just as fast.....lets see you put on a cheap o HP header and cheap ebay short ram intake and make gains like this :p
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid48/p6f40695879335dfd2621cccf6b7172ba/fcc05e95.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p3f2d07c5ae465cd08a6266d0e570b1ac/fd00a13a.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid44/p921a7637e0c67dfe6c8ebe90553a32c8/fcdd8b5c.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid47/pb45e2606b7ec29b24e148dbaa6b962dd/fcc6b69d.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid44/pdec46ff0ec68745f4d69e784cabdca26/fcdd8b5f.jpg
And for that EX fellow who says he can add a few mods and be just as fast.....lets see you put on a cheap o HP header and cheap ebay short ram intake and make gains like this :p
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid48/p6f40695879335dfd2621cccf6b7172ba/fcc05e95.jpg
platinum92civic
03-13-2003, 06:12 AM
The new si's are ugly stock but when there slammed and have 17 or 18 inch rims on them they come out of there shell.......I think there ugly as hell but as soon as u put two mods to the exterior they look pretty nice.....see everyone is just judging them by seeing them stock but not hooked up with rims and a kit and so forth......I like hatches shit i have a hatch but i by far think the year that i have was the best hatch they made for civics!!
kidrocket
03-13-2003, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by b16aDOHCVTEC
aww thatz cute... ur tryin to make up for ur inferior engine (lolz SOHC VTEC....u call that POWER?) by talkin a lot of smack... hehe no matta wha u THINK about the way our carz LOOK..we can walk B16As all day long....
i beat my friends 02 Si and he had IHE, which is more than ive done to my B16. too bad now he has an RSX S motor swap and im a little outclassed
aww thatz cute... ur tryin to make up for ur inferior engine (lolz SOHC VTEC....u call that POWER?) by talkin a lot of smack... hehe no matta wha u THINK about the way our carz LOOK..we can walk B16As all day long....
i beat my friends 02 Si and he had IHE, which is more than ive done to my B16. too bad now he has an RSX S motor swap and im a little outclassed
B16EJ1
03-13-2003, 10:11 AM
Yeah they're nice but I too have beaten one and also beat a 00 Si. They are great cars overall but don't be too surprised that the basic hybrid is still faster. I'd say get it.:D
02SilverSiHB
03-13-2003, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by platinum92civic
The new si's are ugly stock but when there slammed and have 17 or 18 inch rims on them they come out of there shell.......I think there ugly as hell but as soon as u put two mods to the exterior they look pretty nice.....see everyone is just judging them by seeing them stock but not hooked up with rims and a kit and so forth......I like hatches shit i have a hatch but i by far think the year that i have was the best hatch they made for civics!!
Yeah, I can't deny it, they look like ass, when they are stock. I thought the same thing forever before I bought one..in fact I was one of those that would bash on anyone that bought one :) now look at me :)
oh kidrocket....I guess it depends on who you race...and who I race :) I've beaten two 99-00 Si's with ihe, one had some heavy ass 17" motegi rims (that didn't help him,duh), the other was stock looking, but I was told by the person driving it told me he had ihe....I beat another, not sure of what it had, except an exhaust......I think these cars take a lot of getting used to when launching and shifting...the tach is way off, so many of us 02 Si drivers shift too soon. Mine is 500 off, I found that out when I was at the dyno, the guy said it read about 7500rpm, but of course it was 6800 according to the dyno. Just an example...I only got a 16.3 at the track when I first had my si...then added a short ram and hit a 15.7...then the hp header giving me the 15.5...even though some I've seen still get a 15.5 totally stock...I obviously have a little more practice due for me.
The new si's are ugly stock but when there slammed and have 17 or 18 inch rims on them they come out of there shell.......I think there ugly as hell but as soon as u put two mods to the exterior they look pretty nice.....see everyone is just judging them by seeing them stock but not hooked up with rims and a kit and so forth......I like hatches shit i have a hatch but i by far think the year that i have was the best hatch they made for civics!!
Yeah, I can't deny it, they look like ass, when they are stock. I thought the same thing forever before I bought one..in fact I was one of those that would bash on anyone that bought one :) now look at me :)
oh kidrocket....I guess it depends on who you race...and who I race :) I've beaten two 99-00 Si's with ihe, one had some heavy ass 17" motegi rims (that didn't help him,duh), the other was stock looking, but I was told by the person driving it told me he had ihe....I beat another, not sure of what it had, except an exhaust......I think these cars take a lot of getting used to when launching and shifting...the tach is way off, so many of us 02 Si drivers shift too soon. Mine is 500 off, I found that out when I was at the dyno, the guy said it read about 7500rpm, but of course it was 6800 according to the dyno. Just an example...I only got a 16.3 at the track when I first had my si...then added a short ram and hit a 15.7...then the hp header giving me the 15.5...even though some I've seen still get a 15.5 totally stock...I obviously have a little more practice due for me.
kidrocket
03-13-2003, 05:01 PM
ive seen 14.9 run in a 2000 Si with just IHE:o
not my car unfortunately, but still
not my car unfortunately, but still
edman24
03-13-2003, 05:07 PM
one of the PHATTEST hatches i have ever seen was an 02 Si black exterior, racing hart c2 evo 17"s, dropped right on the wheels with an exhaust. dont know what it was but it looked sooooo phat. dont like the shape too much myself but that one looked awesome. id definitely do it too if i had the chance. and im sure that with the k20 it could reach some high hp levels once they get some more aftermarket out for it.
02SilverSiHB
03-13-2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by kidrocket
ive seen 14.9 run in a 2000 Si with just IHE:o
not my car unfortunately, but still
I've seen the same...his name is civicracer...he's been around for a while...he's had lots of other imports...acura/civics.
His 02 si had i/h/e also and hit a 14.9...it's all driver when it comes down to it. Unfortunetly for him, he wrecked his car once again....poor guy.
ive seen 14.9 run in a 2000 Si with just IHE:o
not my car unfortunately, but still
I've seen the same...his name is civicracer...he's been around for a while...he's had lots of other imports...acura/civics.
His 02 si had i/h/e also and hit a 14.9...it's all driver when it comes down to it. Unfortunetly for him, he wrecked his car once again....poor guy.
mattyoung33
03-14-2003, 02:43 AM
in my opinion it looks very similar to the ford focus... the ford focus SVT is an awesome car. It's like the only american car I really like other then of course vipers and so on. I think i may take an SVT focus over the new Si. They are wicked fun to drive and a lot of car for the money!
kidrocket
03-14-2003, 04:44 AM
why not even go for the neon SRT4? you would destroy most hondas, and SVT focii. youd be in the WRX, Mustang GT territory. the Focus is a nice car though, i dont thiknk you can go wrong with whatever you decide... unless you decide to buy a festiva instead
shepworldwide
03-14-2003, 04:46 AM
Originally posted by mattyoung33
in my opinion it looks very similar to the ford focus... the ford focus SVT is an awesome car. It's like the only american car I really like other then of course vipers and so on. I think i may take an SVT focus over the new Si. They are wicked fun to drive and a lot of car for the money!
i forget which month of super street i read the article in, but the focus svt is compared to the rsx-s.
from what i rember the svt would walk over the new si..thats in stock form of course:) ..the aftermarket support is much greater for our lil' grocery getters also, but you know that already ;)
in my opinion it looks very similar to the ford focus... the ford focus SVT is an awesome car. It's like the only american car I really like other then of course vipers and so on. I think i may take an SVT focus over the new Si. They are wicked fun to drive and a lot of car for the money!
i forget which month of super street i read the article in, but the focus svt is compared to the rsx-s.
from what i rember the svt would walk over the new si..thats in stock form of course:) ..the aftermarket support is much greater for our lil' grocery getters also, but you know that already ;)
platinum92civic
03-14-2003, 06:37 AM
well my boy just yesterday has a hatch like mine but a b16a in it and we FINALLY pulled up next to a kid that had the 2003 si the blue one....kinda 00 si lookish....he already had and intake and rims and exhaust on it which i think he got the upgraded package when he bought it because it still had the temp registration...... but we revved him and he revved back so light was almost turning green and you could tell they were gunna race because of the idle revving.....so what do ya know light turns green for about 2 seconds the si was hanging then the b16 vtec kicked in and we were gone we beat him by like anywhere from 4-6 car lengths it was ridiculous but the si looked tight as hell....1rst time i seen the blue one on the streets....I myself have only seen the new si's run 15.7 as fastest time but io also have been to the tracks in like 4-6 months.
shepworldwide
03-14-2003, 06:44 AM
4-6 car lenghts???? what mods does your boy with the b16 have?
in stock form the 00si vs. 02si there isn't much diffrence. it all comes down to the driver..
in stock form the 00si vs. 02si there isn't much diffrence. it all comes down to the driver..
02SilverSiHB
03-14-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by platinum92civic
well my boy just yesterday has a hatch like mine but a b16a in it and we FINALLY pulled up next to a kid that had the 2003 si the blue one....kinda 00 si lookish....he already had and intake and rims and exhaust on it which i think he got the upgraded package when he bought it because it still had the temp registration...... but we revved him and he revved back so light was almost turning green and you could tell they were gunna race because of the idle revving.....so what do ya know light turns green for about 2 seconds the si was hanging then the b16 vtec kicked in and we were gone we beat him by like anywhere from 4-6 car lengths it was ridiculous but the si looked tight as hell....1rst time i seen the blue one on the streets....I myself have only seen the new si's run 15.7 as fastest time but io also have been to the tracks in like 4-6 months.
hhhmmmm 4-6 car lengths....maybe he said....whoa, I just got this car....I'll take it easy...........................his car wasn't even broken in yet...you said it still had the temp registration...that should tell you...
well my boy just yesterday has a hatch like mine but a b16a in it and we FINALLY pulled up next to a kid that had the 2003 si the blue one....kinda 00 si lookish....he already had and intake and rims and exhaust on it which i think he got the upgraded package when he bought it because it still had the temp registration...... but we revved him and he revved back so light was almost turning green and you could tell they were gunna race because of the idle revving.....so what do ya know light turns green for about 2 seconds the si was hanging then the b16 vtec kicked in and we were gone we beat him by like anywhere from 4-6 car lengths it was ridiculous but the si looked tight as hell....1rst time i seen the blue one on the streets....I myself have only seen the new si's run 15.7 as fastest time but io also have been to the tracks in like 4-6 months.
hhhmmmm 4-6 car lengths....maybe he said....whoa, I just got this car....I'll take it easy...........................his car wasn't even broken in yet...you said it still had the temp registration...that should tell you...
platinum92civic
03-17-2003, 06:11 AM
well my boy runs a 14.6/14.7 and yes that kid was trying hard u could tell.....all im saying is it didnt look that fast at all but mabe it was just because he raced us.....my friend only has a intake and headers but he does have a lsd tranny but anyway the 03 si got crushed..and yes 4-6 car lengths it was probably like a sec to a sec 1/2 of diff if to run 1/4 mile ......
Fliquer
03-18-2003, 05:22 PM
The '02 Si is a good car, but you can get so much more performance for the money if you look elsewhere.
The SRT4 goes for just shy of 20k. With a good driver, it runs 14.3 in teh 1/4 and since its a turbo, it wont take much cash to get into the mid 13s. The SVT, 1.8t, Spec V all outclass the Si in acceleration. The SVT will easily outhande the honda, but reliability is an issue (the focus has one of the worst reliabilities on the market). Still, I'd take an SVT over a Si.
The SRT4 goes for just shy of 20k. With a good driver, it runs 14.3 in teh 1/4 and since its a turbo, it wont take much cash to get into the mid 13s. The SVT, 1.8t, Spec V all outclass the Si in acceleration. The SVT will easily outhande the honda, but reliability is an issue (the focus has one of the worst reliabilities on the market). Still, I'd take an SVT over a Si.
Pnoi Q
03-18-2003, 07:17 PM
Doesn't weight matter in all of this? Any hatch with a dropped b16 has around 500 lbs less than an 99-00 SI Coupe, which in turn has 200 lbs less than than the new SI. That's a total of 700 lbs between a B16/Hatch Hybrid and a 02 SI.
platinum92civic
03-19-2003, 09:48 AM
True it does....and thats why i say the 99-00 is better.....as far as i know the 99-00 is lighter, seems a lot more powerful even though both are 160hp but yeah def if u have b16 in a hatch its ridiculously fast...and why weight reduction... so i know that but all i did was compare what a newer si did against a car that ran 14.7...
Vtec
03-20-2003, 10:49 AM
Go with an ex coupe they look way nicer ,I really like the new lines on the coupes the hatchbacks look like a focus or a little station wagon type thing. :apuke: is what I say to the looks of the new hatchs.
Paonessa
03-20-2003, 11:40 AM
the new si is a dog. my friend smoked one in a 1990 ford escort.
ep3 king
10-16-2003, 10:59 AM
I have a 2002 civic si, i ran a 15.5 at 89.3 mph with a 60 foot time of 2.2 seconds at a crappy track here in texas( on a warm night). and that was stock. since then i have put Cai (throttle body coolant bypass and intake manifold gasket by hondata also), headers and a catback and havnt run it since. the new si's have potental but you have to know how to tune them. for one they stock fuel setup dumps intirely to much fuel into the motor and they run rich. and the stock exhaust looks like it was made out of straws. and they might as well have put a single cam 2.0 in it because this vtec on one cam is crap, but despite its small down falls with a few mods the car is fast i can vouch for that. and i raced this guy who has one of those new civics with that 1.7 in it with just about every thing they make for it and i waxed him with my 17's on my car with 89 pump gas.
02SilverSiHB
10-17-2003, 11:16 AM
the new si is a dog. my friend smoked one in a 1990 ford escort.
oooookkkkkkaaaaayyyyy
:loser: :nono: :rolleyes: :screwy:
oooookkkkkkaaaaayyyyy
:loser: :nono: :rolleyes: :screwy:
B16EJ1
10-17-2003, 01:30 PM
Holy shit!!! 7 month old thread, a n00b brings it back and 02SilverSiHB comes back from the dead as soon as thread pops up. WTF????
Killa_CRX
10-17-2003, 01:43 PM
This thred is 7 months old? geez....
Well to all the people suggesting all the other cars that dude could have gotten... all I've got to say is what it says on my check book, and the sticker on my car and the tattoo on my arm.
Honda for Life. Civic for Life.
P.S. The new Si is starting to grow on me even.
Well to all the people suggesting all the other cars that dude could have gotten... all I've got to say is what it says on my check book, and the sticker on my car and the tattoo on my arm.
Honda for Life. Civic for Life.
P.S. The new Si is starting to grow on me even.
kidrocket
10-17-2003, 02:07 PM
This thred is 7 months old? geez....
Well to all the people suggesting all the other cars that dude could have gotten... all I've got to say is what it says on my check book, and the sticker on my car and the tattoo on my arm.
Honda for Life. Civic for Life.
P.S. The new Si is starting to grow on me even.
you have a honda tattoo on your arm? :eek7: :uhoh:
Well to all the people suggesting all the other cars that dude could have gotten... all I've got to say is what it says on my check book, and the sticker on my car and the tattoo on my arm.
Honda for Life. Civic for Life.
P.S. The new Si is starting to grow on me even.
you have a honda tattoo on your arm? :eek7: :uhoh:
Killa_CRX
10-17-2003, 02:27 PM
you have a honda tattoo on your arm? :eek7: :uhoh:
Honda tattoo on my right arm... VW tattoo on my left arm.
Only two car brands I will ever own.
Insane? Why, yes I am! :bigthumb:
Honda tattoo on my right arm... VW tattoo on my left arm.
Only two car brands I will ever own.
Insane? Why, yes I am! :bigthumb:
02SilverSiHB
10-17-2003, 04:34 PM
Holy shit!!! 7 month old thread, a n00b brings it back and 02SilverSiHB comes back from the dead as soon as thread pops up. WTF????
:D lol...good ol "notification of reply to topic..." emails I get every so often
:D lol...good ol "notification of reply to topic..." emails I get every so often
B16EJ1
10-17-2003, 08:58 PM
Insane? Why, yes I am! :bigthumb:
I agree..... :sly:
I agree..... :sly:
02SilverSiHB
10-17-2003, 11:43 PM
well on another note...just got back from the track...ran 15's all night. best was a 15.5. not bad for just i/h and heavy 17's :) I think anyway.
02SilverSiHB
10-18-2003, 06:32 PM
B16EJ1
10-18-2003, 07:35 PM
How heavy are the 7th gens anyway?
Killa_CRX
10-18-2003, 10:19 PM
How heavy are the 7th gens anyway?
2003 Civic Si
Curb Weight (lbs.) 2744 / 2752 (w/side airbags)
2003 Civic Si
Curb Weight (lbs.) 2744 / 2752 (w/side airbags)
B16EJ1
10-19-2003, 02:04 AM
Damn!!! That's heavy as shit!!! I guess 15.5 is awsome.
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