NOFX Rebuild Project (56K Warning)

I wasnt going to make a thread for my project because my digital camera came up missing, but I have found it now and I took a bunch of pictures the other night. A little backround on what I have been doing to it. My transmission took a dump back in October so thats how the whole thing got started. I took it apart and realized that my 3rd gear and intermediate shaft were totally screwed. So I decided to go with the TRE Stage 2 tranny with HD 1st-4th and HD Intermediate shaft and a few other goodies. I had pulled the motor and transmission out to get this all done and since I had the motor out I figured I would do a few things to the motor. I ordered the balance shaft eliminator kit along with a few other minor things. When I finished doing the balance shafts I checked the bearing clearances on the main bearings and was horrified. So I decided that while I had everything out that I may as well rebuild the motor. So I pulled the motor apart and when I looked at the bearing they had some wear on them, but it wasnt as bad as I thought. So made a list of things to get for the rebuild. I got clevite bearings, stock piston rings, all new valves, ARP head studs, main studs and Rod Bolts, and a Topline full engine gasket kit, Prothane motor mounts. I also noticed that my exhuast manifold had some cracking so I got a tubular manifold. While I was at it my friend ported out the exhaust side of the head and ported just a little bit on the intake side. So then it was time for the engine assembly. Being my first engine build I helped as much as I could but my friend did most of the work. I have to say that watching an engine get built is one of the most interesting things I have ever seen. So then it was time to put everything back onto the block and get it assembled. So I replaced all the vaccuum lines with the silicone hose that I got from Road Race. I replaced all of my coolant lines with braided stainless steel lines. So as of now the engine is almost completely assembled and ready to be dropped into the car. I really wish I had my camera through the entire process but unfortunatly these are the only pictures I got but I will post more as I finish up the car.

Here is a picture of the intermediate shaft that started this whole mess
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/100_1389.jpg?t=1169930517


Here is a picture of the replacement Stage 2 Tranny
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00780.jpg?t=1169930608



Here is the Empty engine bay
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00788.jpg?t=1169930655


Here is the tubular manifold
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00779.jpg?t=1169930722



Here is a front shot of the motor
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Here is the first shot of the new Braided Stainless Steel Coolant Lines
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00772.jpg?t=1169930861


More Stainless steel coolant lines
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00781.jpg?t=1169930922


More Coolant Lines
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00775.jpg?t=1169930973


Rear shot of the engine

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00778.jpg?t=1169931394[URL="http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00778.jpg?t=1169931";] (http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00769.jpg?t=1169930782)


All my friends decided that my car was no longer a Mitsu
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00789.jpg?t=1169931025


And they couldnt forget the all important NAAAAWWWZZZZ
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00790.jpg?t=1169931108



Well I guess that is all for now. I am going to be dropping the motor in today hopefully so I will take some more pics and post them up soon.

Looks very good so far. How much you plan on putting down?

Also, where'd you get those stainless steel coolant lines from?

Me likey, me likey. I also want to know where you got those stainless steel lines, I want those. And do I spot some Racing Hart wheels? I have those exact ones for my Talon in 19's.

My dad works on tons of huge deisel engines, power generators, ect. So we have a ton of stainless line just sitting around in the garage. My neighbor also works for a company who makes all the stuff that goes up on satellites and he gets me all the stainless steel hard line or braided line that I want and he doesnt charge me either. It is a pretty good hook up. I am going to do all my fuel lines once I get my new FPR and Injectors. And the wheels are just knockoffs, I think they said Reaction or something like that on the caps but they are really strong wheels.

Damnit, I want that stainless steel line. I wonder where you can buy that at....hm....I'll be googling it up tonight I guess. And those wheels look EXACTLY like my Racing Harts.

Looks good, but its a shame you have to use those clamps on the lines... They are not actual braided lines tho, they are the rubber lines with a cover over them. Right?

... Stuck. :thumbsup:

Damn, dude nice job. So uh, what to help a brotha out with some of that line? ;)

or two brothas?? :D

No those are real stainless steel braided lines. They have a line of teflon through the inside but that is it. It is 4 in the morning here right now and I have more pics but I am way too tired to post them up right now. We got the engine and tranny in the car tonight. I will post them tomarrow. I also took a picture of all the stainless steel line that I have and how much more I just got. I will see about how much I might be able to get and work something out for some of you guys If I can.

Perrrrrfect.

No those are real stainless steel braided lines. They have a line of teflon through the inside but that is it.
Ohh ok... I just never seen one like that on a car before. I usually see real ones with AN fittings on them or fake ones. Thats pretty sweet. Ya know you can still get a bunch of those fake AN fitting covers off the internet and put them over the ends to make it look even better. I think some of the designs will allow it to snap over those clamps your already using too.

I think I am going to change a lot of those hose clamps over to something else. I have a few options that I am looking at so we will see. So I told my dad that we needed some more stainless line because we used most of the stuff that was that size. So he called our neighbor up and last night they made a trip and brought back presents. So here are some pictures of what they brought back plus all the other stuff that we have in the garage.


Here is what they brought back

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00793.jpg?t=1170030758


Here is what we already had just sitting there

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00795.jpg?t=1170030836


Here is the other bucket

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00796.jpg?t=1170030875

Engine and Tranny about to go into the car

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00799.jpg?t=1170030921


Finally, The Engine in the car

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00801.jpg?t=1170030962

Holy balls that's alot of hose. What sizes do you have? That engine/tranny look badass in there, they're clean as HELL.

I am not sure what sizes exactly they are. I do know that I pretty much have every size to do all the lines in my car though. I think I am going to do my heater hoses too.

I also asked how much all that line that they brought back was worth. And they told me its worth a couple thousand. WOW!

So you should sell me some. You know... to make a little profit off of it. Right?

That engine is sexy. WOuld make me not want to drive it and just store it someplace.

I want some too. You should figure out some prices for us so I know how much to spend on a new deck for the Monte.

Stainless line is skeet-skeet, but expensive. We got lucky once and found a whole bunch of brand new stainless line beside the road. It had flew out of the back of someone's truck or something. So we stopped and picked it up. It was enough to do the whole fuel system on my buddy's Nova.

So almost everything is complete. I am just waiting on a boot for 1 of the Axles to come in on thursday. I might be starting it up tomarrow and just let it run for a few minutes for the initial break in, and also to make sure nothing is leaking. All I got to say about putting everything back in is...Fuck the wire harness, That thing is ugly as all hell. I wish I had the time to go through and redo the whole thing and hide a lot of those wires. Oh well once I get another daily driver that will be something I can go back and do. I have a new custom catch can that is used on massive air compressors to catch oil and water out of the air. I am going test it and see how it goes. I will post pictures of it on here tomarrow. Man I am getting excited to start this thing up. It seems like forever since I have driven my car. I dont know how a lot of you guys have gone so long.

Very nice, your bay is very clean. Your progress makes me want to just fuckin get mine done!

If you sell off some of that SS line, I would like some too. Let me know if you can/will.

Alright...UPDATE TIME...

I got the car started up this past thursday. It ran like a champ, Until I had no power. It took me a little while to figure it out but we figured out that the alternator was bad. So I went and picked one up on friday and got it installed. The car runs fantastic. It sounds better than I imagined, and the tranny shifts much smoother than I thought it would while it breaks in. So here are some more pictures for all of you guys to enjoy.

First here are a couple pictures of my new little catch can

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00805.jpg


http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00803.jpg


Here is a pic of the catch can installed in the car

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00812.jpg

Here is a pic of the engine bay after everything was installed

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00816.jpg


Here is my friend Danny in front of the car. I owe this guy a ton. He pretty much built the entire car while I sat back and watched and learned. I did learn a ton though and feel confident I could do most of it next time.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00809.jpg

Then here I am in front of the car

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o302/nofx0617/DSC00810.jpg




So after the start up there were just a couple leaks here and there that just needed some tightening. I am having a problem though. After the car has warmed up, when I push in the clutch my RPM's drop and so if I am at an idle then the car dies. I am pretty stumped on it right now. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Have you correctly adjusted the idle?

Yeah it idles fine at around 600-700 rpms...and that is where it idled at before I did all this.

bring the idle up to about 850 rpm and see what happens that seems a little low. so when the FMIC being installed just to add to the sexiness

So when you push in the clutch pedal the car kills, but only when it's idling? Am I getting that right?

he says rpms drop. and at idle there so low it cuts off. but i think 600-700 is to low of an idle anyways. i couldnt tell you why idle drop when you push in the clutch, mabey same reason idle rises when turning the wheel??? lol

In simple terms, idle rises when turning the wheel because when you turn the wheel, you put more of a load on the power steering pump, which puts more of a load on the motor through the accessory belt (nt cars) and the engine has to compensate for that load by increasing the rpms.

Yes the car dies when I push in the clutch because the rpms drop for some reason. I noticed today that it died a couple times just coming down from a higher rpm. I was at like 5k and then I let off and the rpms dropped pretty fast and then it dropped right past where it was supposed to idle and then died. Sometimes I can catch it with a quick little rev but not all the time.

Sounds like the exact same thing that happened to me when I blew a hole in my IC pipes.

So possible like a boost leak or vacuum?

Nice, BTW what those thing in the back ground ? LCD monitor ?

Your engine bay is clean as hell man. Hope you can figure out your idle problem.

Nice, BTW what those thing in the back ground ? LCD monitor ?

Are you talking about the reflections on the garage door? I think they're just sorta mirrored glass.

NOFX, have you done a boost leak test? I would try that first. If it was a vacuum leak, you usually can hear them.

Looks good man... Very clean...

Yeah I havent done the boost leak test yet. I need to go and get the stuff to make one. Yeah Killa those are just the windows on the garage door. It would be badass if they were LCD though....

Alright update time.....

So for those who dont know I crankwalked 600 miles after the rebuild. Since then I picked up a 6 bolt short block from a friend here in town for 150 bucks. So today I took the block down to the machine shop and it looks like the cylinders are going to need to be bored .020 over. So I am kind of on a budget as far as pistons go so I cant go forged. So right now what I am looking at would either be the stock 2g pistons .020 oversized or the Topline pistons. The topline are $175 with rings and the the stock 2g pistons are $335 for the set of pistons with rings. I just dont know how well those topline pistons compare to the stock 2g pistons. I know that the 2g's are good for about 400hp. I am really only looking to go up to 350 max. Any info that you guys have I would appreciate greatly as usual.

I'm sure the topline pistons will work well for you, but I'm not so sure they would also be 400hp worthy... :dunno:

Just go with the 2g pistons, I'd trust those more than a Topline kit.

Alright everyone I have finally finished the 6 bolt swap on my car...I was hoping to take pics of everything but unfortunatly my digital camera decided it didnt want to work anymore...The battery is dead but it started up fine with jumper cables so I know that a new battery will fix that. Luckily it started right up. There were just a couple water lines that needed to be tightened up just a bit. Unfortunatly when I went to put it in gear it wouldnt go into gear. I can feel the clutch engage and the slave cylinder is definatly moving the fork over quite a bit. It will go into gear when the car isnt on so I know that its not the tranny. We did blead it but I am beginning to think that it may just need to be bled again. Maybe a clutch adjustment. What do you guys think. I am so confused right now.

that is the claenest $G63 ive ever seen in my life lol good job