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DasWiesel
01-26-2007, 06:52 AM
Sorry Steven, i couldnīt help choosing this topic. And never mind our Daytona -seat-thing! We both put :wink: -smilies behind our post, so no need for your apologies at all! :cheers:
Originally i didnīt want to show another started project before finishing even one of my old. :banghead: But what should i do, if I am provoked :wink: by one the masters here at AF!? Well, here the pictures i promised you, Steven!

I had a second 612 kit and was wondering what to do with it. Only a different colour and some new wheels was not interesting enough for my taste. Making a 612 Kappa was an alternative, but still not what i was searching for. I think many members in here would like to build a kit of the new Porsche Panamericana, Mercedes CLS, Aston Martin Rapide or even Maserati Quattroporte. Sporty sedans became quite popular and even the very rare Ferrari 456 GT Sedan which was exclusively made for the Sultan of Brunei should be well known for the most car-fans.
So what about converting a 612 into a 4-door version!?:thinkerg:
I searched for some blueprints of Maseratiīs Quattroporte and scanned the Revell instructions to compare the dimensions of both cars.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3237393866616333.jpg

After some Photoshop-work, i thought about what has to be changed. Wheelsbase is nearly the same, windscreen has to move forwards, roof has to be longer, rear window smaller and c-pillars more steeply.
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3838306662316536.jpg

Before and after in one picture to see differences.
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3136373230633438.jpg

I began with cutting the roof and a-pillars to move it 7mm forward. Holes in the doors were filled with Tamiya-Epoxy.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3533303437303864.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3434623666363432.jpg

C-pillars were cut right next to the rear window. I also made a cut at the lower end of them from the inside to facilitate bending. Some plastic sheet inside the cut should help to get a symmetrical distance at both sides. The developing gaps were filled up with old sprues and glue.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/6434343466666162.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/6464376637373963.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/6464356433303933.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3836306537366335.jpg

Rear window was shortened around 3-4mm and roof has to be adapted. I glued the middle roof part on very thin styrene and gaps were again filled with old sprues.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/6236336134343461.jpg

Hhhm, or should i make a 612 Targa instead? :p :grinno:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3332353234643835.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/6261343763636334.jpg

I wanted to use putty as late as possible In order to get a very firm roof structure and to avoid tears. So i took some plastic from the kit itself again and solved it in glue to make my very own kind of putty. This mix takes a few days for hardening, but at last i achieved what i aimed at.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3764326338636136.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3630393037323830.jpg

Only little work at the sides to correct the windows.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3436356637356436.jpg

Roof got some putty at last and all changed areas a light sanding to check the shape. I removed the door handles for copying and will put in all 4 at the needed places later.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3632373534316137.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3637633461303333.jpg

While searching for some reference pictures, i found the following one and i thought this would fit my sedan very well. So i started reproducing this pattern by gluing small stripes on some sheet. But no need for long explanations here, i think. :grinno:
I very well know what bones in your Fingers are for, since the day i cut out the middle part of the seats: They prevent you from cutting off your finger completely, if you slip with your knife.:crying: Sometimes you have to make sacrifices for your hobby.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3064306266396363.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3861656631313437.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3865626438626462.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3136326165616639.jpg

I streched the interior for about 7mm right behind the front seats and put on some Tamiya Primer for a first impression.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/6339643439313730.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3361356464326663.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/6164666131663335.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3631393130323363.jpg

Thatīs all for now. Sorry for my long post and thanks for looking! :smokin:

ZoomZoomMX-5
01-26-2007, 07:21 AM
Now this is what I call great modeling!! :sunglasse

Great idea. Who do you think you are, the Sultan of Brunei? :lol:

Of course Veyron calls him the Sultan of Brown Eye :rofl:

Gamerxz
01-26-2007, 07:31 AM
This looks really great! Very original indeed

M-Tuning
01-26-2007, 07:37 AM
Nice, i'm doing the opposite to a VW Golf :P

Veyron
01-26-2007, 07:50 AM
Nice project!

One thing, if it's not just me, I think the roof is a bit too flat. I know you aren't finished yet...but if you haven't planned too...I would put a bit more roundness to it. Otherwise carry on, soldier.

gionc
01-26-2007, 08:01 AM
Nice project!

One thing, if it's not just me, I think the roof is a bit too flat. I know you aren't finished yet...but if you haven't planned too...I would put a bit more roundness to it. Otherwise carry on, soldier.

That is just what I feel. I would like also a while glass roof, cool on a 4 seater ;)

ZoomZoomMX-5
01-26-2007, 08:12 AM
Nice project!

One thing, if it's not just me, I think the roof is a bit too flat. I know you aren't finished yet...but if you haven't planned too...I would put a bit more roundness to it. Otherwise carry on, soldier.

Perhaps, but it's not bad-I think most of the effect can be softened if/when the corners of the side glass at the C pillar are rounded off; if they are radiused smooth like the Maser's the roof will look better.
http://images19.fotki.com/v381/photos/1/10258/23480/612Sedanrevised-vi.jpg

Painting the roof center gloss black is also an option in case a glass roof isn't feasible.

speedphreak
01-26-2007, 09:20 AM
Wow, very interesting! Can't wait for more progress.

CeeElle
01-26-2007, 09:40 AM
wow... you've got some amazing scratchbuilding skills.

bigfrit
01-26-2007, 11:01 AM
Good god! this is superamazing and mega-awesome!

You're an inspiration, and a great talent!

I hope you will show more of the progress, as I m really interested in learning more about scratchbuilding. Teach me!

Oli

klutz_100
01-26-2007, 11:22 AM
Julian, I am absolutely bedazzled by the work you are doing here.

It's just the kind of stuff that inspires me the most and to which I stumblingly aspire. A creative, bold and original idea executed beautifully :worshippy

As for the seats, thanks for sharing your idea because you have now provided me the solution I could not solve :D

Thank you for the dedication :lol:

bhop73
01-26-2007, 11:58 AM
Nice scratchbuilding.

DasWiesel
01-26-2007, 12:11 PM
Wow, thanks a lot for all your kind replies! The next progress pics could need some time, as i have to move to another city in Feb. Iīm afraid, there will be many very different things for me to do than modeling.:shakehead

if it's not just me, I think the roof is a bit too flat.
No, itīs not just you. To be exact, i cut the roof again in the meantime, because i was not satisfied either.

Glass roof would be really great, but to difficult to realize for me.

Window corners are not finished yet, but iīm going to let them look more like the ones at the Maserati.

It's just the kind of stuff that inspires me the most and to which I stumblingly aspire.
Thanks, thatīs just what i think about Ping&Pong! :grinyes:

sportracer02
01-26-2007, 12:27 PM
WOW -- Klutz you are KING, you are the first I noticed to whom a thread is dedicated :worshippy :worshippy :worshippy :worshippy :worshippy :lol:


Julian, fantasic job so far :worshippy :worshippy :worshippy :worshippy :worshippy . I could see the interior in Frankfurt in October - amazing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, as I can see her futher progress on the body -- thatīs what I call modelling :ylsuper: (and inspiring me and others).

PLEASE finish it ...

(Where do you live now?)

Enzoenvy1
01-26-2007, 12:27 PM
Sultan of DasWiesel! Looking great!

mike@af
01-26-2007, 01:24 PM
Wow, I'll follow this thread with great interest.

gionc
01-26-2007, 02:31 PM
Julian, I am absolutely bedazzled by the work you are doing here.

It's just the kind of stuff that inspires me the most and to which I stumblingly aspire. A creative, bold and original idea executed beautifully :worshippy

As for the seats, thanks for sharing your idea because you have now provided me the solution I could not solve :D

Thank you for the dedication :lol:

Upppzzzzzz: forgot: awesome dayto stuff, hoping you'll sell me 1 :D

voyageur
01-26-2007, 03:03 PM
Hey Julian,

finally I get to see the WIP pics after taking a close look at the model last october in FFM.

It sure looks astonishing in reality...and the pictures do it justice :sunglasse

You are moving in february....don't forget that there is an empty parking slot in my showcase
for the time being (it's a slot without a parking meter :wink: ).

Cheers from KA
SEB

PS: Hmmm....looking at those seats again I think i might build my first Ferrari once you cast them :smooch:

blubaja
01-26-2007, 06:43 PM
This is a great great great idea!! I wonder why Ferrari hasn't made one of these yet. Good luck on this:)

mikemechanic
01-26-2007, 08:09 PM
Very cool and great idea, like a modern Mondial. I'll be watching to see how it pans out.

Mike.

auw12
01-26-2007, 11:45 PM
Fantastic Julian!!! I always appreciate imaginations and creative works on ferraris. ( I mean REAL decent and reasonable imaginations and creative works, not RICEBOY's tricks and stunts.) That looks really brilliant Sultan Julian!:evillol: :rofl: :rofl:

And I'm very happy to have a 612 fellow here. The 612 is one of my most loving ferraris, really a masterpiece and a work of art from Mr.Okuyama. I was thinking of doing all the 612 line including the 2006 version, the 15,000 red miles twins, the GP, the Verona L&Y 2tone, the kappa, the 30th anniversary of cornes... Always too much thoughts and too little time!!:banghead: :banghead:

Keep it up man! Oh and awesome works on the daytona seats as well.:thumbsup:

rod_k2
01-27-2007, 01:05 AM
Stunning,Mr. Sultan of Dresden! :p
I'm not a big fan of ferraris,but this ferrari really made my attention!

ales
01-27-2007, 02:23 AM
Unique!

Hey, why not go all the way and make it a wagon/estate a-la sultan's 456-s? :D

MihecNI
01-27-2007, 04:54 AM
WoW....that's impressive!

teamanila
02-03-2007, 09:39 PM
sweet! I have the same idea in my head, but haven't started anything. I still have to finish the 612 "Special" that I have on my bench. Btw... here's a pic of the 612 Quattroporte. Goodluck with the build!

http://hvtm.totalcar.hu/car/m/ferrari/850145.jpg

zak78
02-04-2007, 11:10 PM
Wow, I just joined this site after seeing your build! I'm working on doing the opposite to a BMW e34 (making a 2-door, convertible 5-series). Can't wait to see it with the door lines in place, etc.

DjNightWolf
02-05-2007, 10:37 AM
mad work!:D

Orion37170
02-08-2007, 03:10 PM
great project, nice idea with 4door,
will follow this!

lechatnoir82
02-08-2007, 03:37 PM
Wow, looks awesome. Ferrari should have made the 612 a four door, it looks so much better that way.

DasWiesel
02-10-2007, 05:07 PM
:lol: I wish i was a sultan, then i could make this in 1:1!

I thought about making an estate-version, but in the end i liked the sedan idea more.

Thanks for the picture, teamanila!

DasWiesel
02-17-2007, 07:03 AM
Time for some news. Next thing was to change the doorboards. I cut off the rear of the kit parts and made them longer by using some sheet and Epoxy putty.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/6466646132336631.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3437306666363336.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/6639386331383465.jpg

Sorry for this pic, i just did not manage to get it sharp.
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3763306332333236.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3133393233656433.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/6365363630656664.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3130653138333635.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3832343263383566.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/6162333937303233.jpg

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/61/1561/3238623631343235.jpg

Should look ok when painted. :naughty:

auw12
02-17-2007, 07:18 AM
COOOOOOOOOOOOOL scratch build Mr. Sultan!!!:worshippy It looks so luxury even when it's unpainted, I'd love to sit in there very much LOL!!!

klutz_100
02-17-2007, 07:33 AM
Excellent styrene work there, Jules! really impressive :thumbsup:

godfather23
02-17-2007, 07:57 AM
DasWiesel...you have to be kidding me. I waswaiting for your Polizei-Porsche to advance. But have that on hold until you finish this amazing modeling you started. Great idea and great execution of all the problems. You makethis look so easy.

Greetings from HRO and good luck with the rest of this project, I sure check on you!

Robert

voyageur
02-17-2007, 09:36 AM
Hi Julian,

that looks excellent!

Greetz SEB

DasWiesel
02-17-2007, 11:41 AM
Thanks again!:) Unfortunately the next update will not be possible before March :frown: Too busy with moving.

freakray
02-17-2007, 11:56 AM
I wish I had the courage to do something like this!!

Awesome progress, keep the updates coming.

Uninen
02-18-2007, 05:35 AM
Hot dang that looks awesome! Great scratch building!

bai
02-18-2007, 07:02 AM
now thats some crazy sh!t~
will stay tuned for this one

bai
02-18-2007, 07:04 AM
now thats some crazy sh!t~
will stay tuned for this one

Orion37170
02-20-2007, 05:14 PM
Great work!
I hope to see this one in real life one day... :-D

willimo
02-20-2007, 10:25 PM
Looks great! Getting an interior to look right is always a challenge. The shapes are so much more complex, and so much smaller. What you've done is nothing short of amazing. Keep it up! I love it!

Zonda
04-28-2007, 09:12 PM
Nice conversion! Any progress?

DasWiesel
05-01-2007, 02:53 PM
Sorry, no progress, yet. I hadnīt have even the time to unpack my modeling stuff since i moved. But youīre right, itīs just about time to continue this.:smokin:

andrew landon
05-01-2007, 09:34 PM
thanks alot man, i am in pain. first, my jaw came unhinged and fell. secondly, it made a beeline for my crotch, putting me in immence pain, and thirdly, i have lost the will to model. make a resin copy of the body and intirior, maybe sell it as a transkit.

D.E
10-21-2007, 12:22 PM
Sorry to bump an old thread, but has this wonderful build gotten completed?

klutz_100
10-22-2007, 02:34 AM
I'd like to know that too :D

Did it go to RSA with you? ;)

Mister_S13_2
10-24-2007, 08:49 AM
oh my gosh.
your out of your mind
that is absolutly awsome.
*jealousy +
skillz that killz

WRC_413X
10-27-2007, 01:50 PM
mmm do update the interior is killer as is the body conversion great work!

rockinanko
12-05-2007, 12:55 AM
Hell yeah!

what a build!!!
so it all confirms that this indeed, is the new way to go for car modeling!?!?

no more OOB build, cut-up everywhere you can & make a ferrari model no one (not even the plastic manufacturers!) has one!

i like this idea! cal it 'hell-bent' modeling!!!

keep the progress coming, even if it's slow...i know the pain to do such feats too.

cheers!

marc
SGP

CifeNet
12-05-2007, 01:08 AM
Amazing work! I am so interested to find out how this will turn out! Keep up the good work.

DasWiesel
12-05-2007, 12:30 PM
Thanks again! Yes, this project still exists, but there hardly time left for modeling right now. unfortunately there are more important things i have to do, so i must keep this as a hobby. :frown:

Nevertheless i cut the roof in the meantime again. Wasnīt satisfied because it was a bit oblique. Maybe i can show some update on the interior soon.

I couldnīt resist starting the Ferrari 599, Revells R8 and R10 and finished a nice model, which i finally have to take pictures of. :grinyes:

basman007
01-30-2008, 02:28 PM
BUMP :D

Awesome work, amazing skills! +1 man

Did you ever finished it?

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