98 accord hp gain

hey what would be the cheapest way to get 400hp out of my 98 accord v6. and about how much would it be. im open to any idea you guys can throw at me.

Not possible.

Thanks for playing.

Next.

im looking for advice not dumb comments

OK how's this.

With about $10,000 worth of mods, you could make it produce maybe 300 hp and still be reliable and streetable. Anything you could do that would make it make 100 hp more than that would eat it up in short order.

This all assumes you have a built manual tranny, the auto would most likely grenade in short order with much more than 250 hp or so going into it...

The quickest route to power is boost, a supercharger for that motor will run you $3500-$5000, and put you in the 250-275 hp range provided you have other mods that would allow it to work to full effect, figure another $3000 for a proper intake porting job, exhaust, throttle body, CAI, controller, etc......and you'd run high 13's in the quarter mile or thereabouts....

Now if that's your idea of cheap, go to it...

Then you gotta consider the cost of actually getting the chassis to be able to put that much HP to the road....figure another $3000 in tires, wheels, springs and such...and that the stock axles were not designed to take that much HP, so they'll be needing replaced in a month or so...It's gonna tear motor mounts to shreds, you'll have to use special mounts built for that kind of power, I don't even wanna think what those would cost, given what the stock parts run...

So anyway, not trying to be a smartass, just didn't consider it to be a serious question to begin with.

We could start again, you tell us how much you have to spend, we could point you in the right direction, and give you some idea what kind of gains you might see from it...

well with $6000 im able to put 500-600 to the ground. i have a tranny on the side that will hold 500hp. but all i need is 400hp. so i talked to a few people other than you and found a solution for about 3.5k that will let me hit 425-450hp with a turbo. but thanks for your.. well.. suggestion.

Uh OK....keep telling yourself that....

Make sure you post dyno and time slips. I would love to know how to make Formula 1 type power on a budget...I'm sure the Formula 1 people would love to know too...

Lessee, that's 200hp per liter? Motorcycle engines aren't even there yet. You must be talking to some freaking geniuses...

BTW "a" turbo isn't going to get you anywhere near that....you'll need two...large ones...figure at $7000 by your logic, but ones that can produce that kind of boost cost much more.... Plus you can't just stuff enormous emounts of air into a stock motor and expect it to work...you'd need probably 25 psi of boost to make that much power...better have an intercooler, or you are gonna detonate that motor to death first time it boosts....you gotta deliver way more fuel to make use of it, better fuel pump, better injectors, adjustable FPR, new rail, MAF, etc. That much flow can't pass through without flow mods, as I mentioned, porting, intake, header, exhaust....gotta have a controller that can make sense of all these new parameters, the stock PCM is gonna throw it's hands up and surrender with all this going on....those aren't cheap...stock rods, pistons and crank can't handle that much boost, so they'll have to be replaced with forged race grade unts....I could go on....

You have a 500 hp transaxle? That must have cost 4-5 grand already. What kind of mods you got in that? I'd be interested....never seen a Honda tranny that could hold that kind of power...

ok for about 1.5k-2k you can have engine internals that will hold around 40 psi, even more if you want to put the money down. this stuff isnt so very hard to find these days. but hey i got everything down now but thanks. in about 6 months ill be back with your stats. see ya.

So you are gonna build and assemble this block with forged internals to handle 40psi for 2k. And then with the 1.5k you are going to toss in a massive turbo and custom exhaust manifold, intercooler and all the custom piping, larger injectors, larger fuel pump, rails if necessary (don't particularly know the limits of stock), intake and full exhaust, a boost controller, and some sort of air/fuel controller with timing control so...like a greddy emanage or a completely new ecu (AEM EMS).

All this assuming you don't dump a dime into any installation, tuning, or that 'built tranny' you have lying around.

And then we are to assume, you are going to be able to take this out anywhere without putting it into the first wall you see with stock suspension and tires.

And providing you are even still serious at this point, you are gonna see what, 400+ at the wheel when...in the last 2k of the powerband?

Wait here's the best part...do you know anybody putting down that kind of power in ANY car? Ask them how much they spend on broken parts each month. Or how much they spend on c16 race gas everytime they wanna play.

OK buddy, come back and prove us wrong. In the meantime, I got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale...interested?

Please please please please tell me this 'solution'. I'm dying to hear this...I could use another good laugh.

haha no im not getting those internals for 40 psi when i wont use more than 20.. and no 400hp is not a big turbo, its actually small considering whats out there, and it will cost about 3.5k if you shop around. actaully it would have cost 5k if i didnt shop around to save a little on each thing. ive verified all of this with a very knowledgable friend and an even more knowledgable mechanic that i know. so my problem is solved thanks again, im out.

So you think your stock block is gonna hold 20psi? haha, ok. Rebuilding a block is rebuilding a block, and you're going to need to. 400fwhp, I'm well aware isn't a huge turbo. I have a twin turbo/twin intercooled BPU car pushing 300AWHP already and I can barely get to 400whp on $1,500 buying used parts and doing all the installation and tuning on my own. (and all I need are slighty larger turbos, 550cc injectors, an SAFC and a Walboro pump) Again that's a 1/3 of what you would need. So please, post this 'verified solution' Are your friends planning on dropping a 350 into your Honda in their garage?

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/catelog/Turbochargers/GT30/GT3076R_700382_12.htm

holy shit 525hp for 3.0L. wait is that within my 500-600 range. wait im pretty sure it is. damn. and no i will buy forged internals that are rated less. around 20-25 psi. never said i was going to go for stock. haha. and yes right in the garage.. i know a mechanic. free garage use and im going to install it with his supervision - once again, free of charge. and ive done the physics of the turbo, took a long time, but its done he is verifying the math and we will see if i can truely get the turbo i want to, but hes almost positive i can.

In the tech data, the T3's were capable of producing about 56% hp gain on your car....that would be about 310-320hp? And that's just the turbo, you know. You still gotta buy the wastegate, intercooler, ducting, blow off, pipe, etc, etc, plus all that other stuff we talked about...that's not a kit, just a turbo.

Just because it says for engines capable of 525 hp doen't mean it's gonna make that on yours...

If you have such an awesome supply of knowlege and expertise at your disposal, one wonders why you'd come here and ask a generic question about what you want to do....

Keep digging the hole, this is getting good...:screwy:

because i thought the easiest way to produce a good foundation of knowledge is to talk to people with experience. now when i came here i immediately got a couple dicks. now as soon as i saw this i decided to go for a more real approach. and actually ive decided to spend the extra money and buy a new car for everyday use, as i would have my car as a complete 'project'. there is no hole. just me relaying information i hear from more people that are mechanics. btw i know what an intercooler is. :wink:

I wish you luck. Hope you don't end up wasting a wad on unrealistic expectations.

I wasn't trying to be a dick (initially), your post just had the distinct ring of those like the other occaisional 15 year old drooling over the prospect of getting his hands on the keys to his mom's Accord, wanting to know how he's gonna rule the street with $200 worth of useless bolt-on crap from Autozone.

If I read you wrong, that's my bad. I still haven't seen anything concrete that really makes me think otherwise, just a lot of non-specific bluster and one reference to a website that you somehow seem to think backs your assertions....

I actually WANT you to prove me wrong, believe that, I'd love to see a good tech write-up on how to build 400-500 hp outta a 3.0L...so if you actually pull it off, please enlighten me....I'd like to read about it. Really.

So put up or shut up. Outline what you are planning to do with some real figures and some specs, or just keep flailing around with this line of ambiguity.

Don't get me wrong, it's kinda fun seeing which way you'll go with it next. Showing me in detail how you plan to build this monster would be a good place to start. I'm all for learning new stuff. Tell me about this 500 hp transaxle for instance....anyone who has any need for a tranny like that would no doubt know it inside and out, so tell me what was done to it.....