98 rodeo coolant DISAPPEARING
daterxies
12-27-2006, 10:09 PM
Hi... i been looking around with google etc and cant seem to find an exact match of what i need help with... overheating ive read about.
But my problem is my coolant is just... flat out disappearing. No visable signs of leaks, but the coolants disappearing pretty rapidly. (i have to refill it about 3x-4x a month)
Now what could this be? sense i have no way knowing whats going on with it i cant really offer much more detail... thanks for any advice in advance...
But my problem is my coolant is just... flat out disappearing. No visable signs of leaks, but the coolants disappearing pretty rapidly. (i have to refill it about 3x-4x a month)
Now what could this be? sense i have no way knowing whats going on with it i cant really offer much more detail... thanks for any advice in advance...
amigo-2k
12-27-2006, 10:31 PM
I know there was an issue of a bad run of heads on the 98's which tend to have issues with hairline cracks in the heads.
I may have the same issue on my 2000, the reserve tank fluid disappeared over the past week....
I may have the same issue on my 2000, the reserve tank fluid disappeared over the past week....
daterxies
12-27-2006, 11:52 PM
I know there was an issue of a bad run of heads on the 98's which tend to have issues with hairline cracks in the heads.
I may have the same issue on my 2000, the reserve tank fluid disappeared over the past week....
was there a recall on them?
thanks
I may have the same issue on my 2000, the reserve tank fluid disappeared over the past week....
was there a recall on them?
thanks
daterxies
12-28-2006, 12:29 AM
was there a recall on them?
thanks
Also im a true believer at starting out cheap and working my way up...
So if that may be the problem would a seal work?
such as this (http://www.amazon.com/K-Permanent-Metallic-Block-Seal/dp/B00030BF7O/sr=8-1/qid=1167283552/ref=sr_1_1/103-5216909-9296613?ie=UTF8&s=automotive)
thanks
thanks
Also im a true believer at starting out cheap and working my way up...
So if that may be the problem would a seal work?
such as this (http://www.amazon.com/K-Permanent-Metallic-Block-Seal/dp/B00030BF7O/sr=8-1/qid=1167283552/ref=sr_1_1/103-5216909-9296613?ie=UTF8&s=automotive)
thanks
trooperbc
12-28-2006, 01:27 AM
Also im a true believer at starting out cheap and working my way up...
So if that may be the problem would a seal work?
such as this (http://www.amazon.com/K-Permanent-Metallic-Block-Seal/dp/B00030BF7O/sr=8-1/qid=1167283552/ref=sr_1_1/103-5216909-9296613?ie=UTF8&s=automotive)
thanks
well i'm no fan of those kind of stop leaks, especially when you don't know what's leaking -- you might clog something instead
but i am a fan of starting out cheap and working my way up. so this is what i would start with
drive it hard and hot, turn it off, and then pop the hood and investigate immediately. the coolant will then be at its hottest and the pressure the greatest -- and often hot vapor can be spotted as the indicator.
some areas to check
*radiator cap. it might be releasing pressure too soon and allowing vapor to escape
*any and all hoses. look and feel, under and all around. an old mirror helps. look for tell tale green fluid and vapor trails. i had a bit of leak in the *upper* radiator hose once that was invisible until careful checking like this
*check hoses to heater. these are the two hoses at the top of the engine near the firewall. here a mirror is a real help, necessity. a digital camera zoom spotted a leak for me that i couldn't see on my own because of the tight space and poor light
*check your carpeting, starting at the top under the dash. if they are damp, you may be at the start of a heater core leak, or inlet/oulet pipe leak
*check with a bright light and contorted angles the area at the top of the head, under the intake assemblies. there's a coolant pipe that runs through there with rubber orings as seals that leak. look for green. look also under the engine at the engine/trans seam. there's a weap hole in there somewhere that takes the above coolant down there. do this soon after driving as possible. park over cardboard or such to help locate drips
*check the water pump area on the fan end, same as above
*check the overflow hose
anyway, you get the idea. it could be any or all of these. my latest find was the heater core inlet/outlet area, and i'm still trying to tell if it could be the core or the hoses in the engine compartment (which show some coolant too) is getting that sponge-like foam gasket in the firewall wet from the outside in.
good luck
//bc
So if that may be the problem would a seal work?
such as this (http://www.amazon.com/K-Permanent-Metallic-Block-Seal/dp/B00030BF7O/sr=8-1/qid=1167283552/ref=sr_1_1/103-5216909-9296613?ie=UTF8&s=automotive)
thanks
well i'm no fan of those kind of stop leaks, especially when you don't know what's leaking -- you might clog something instead
but i am a fan of starting out cheap and working my way up. so this is what i would start with
drive it hard and hot, turn it off, and then pop the hood and investigate immediately. the coolant will then be at its hottest and the pressure the greatest -- and often hot vapor can be spotted as the indicator.
some areas to check
*radiator cap. it might be releasing pressure too soon and allowing vapor to escape
*any and all hoses. look and feel, under and all around. an old mirror helps. look for tell tale green fluid and vapor trails. i had a bit of leak in the *upper* radiator hose once that was invisible until careful checking like this
*check hoses to heater. these are the two hoses at the top of the engine near the firewall. here a mirror is a real help, necessity. a digital camera zoom spotted a leak for me that i couldn't see on my own because of the tight space and poor light
*check your carpeting, starting at the top under the dash. if they are damp, you may be at the start of a heater core leak, or inlet/oulet pipe leak
*check with a bright light and contorted angles the area at the top of the head, under the intake assemblies. there's a coolant pipe that runs through there with rubber orings as seals that leak. look for green. look also under the engine at the engine/trans seam. there's a weap hole in there somewhere that takes the above coolant down there. do this soon after driving as possible. park over cardboard or such to help locate drips
*check the water pump area on the fan end, same as above
*check the overflow hose
anyway, you get the idea. it could be any or all of these. my latest find was the heater core inlet/outlet area, and i'm still trying to tell if it could be the core or the hoses in the engine compartment (which show some coolant too) is getting that sponge-like foam gasket in the firewall wet from the outside in.
good luck
//bc
2eyefishclaw
12-28-2006, 04:12 PM
pull your spark plugs out if there are any of them that have a green tint on the porcelan you got a crack head
daterxies
01-05-2007, 08:07 PM
Alright heres an update. Its not the head gaskets, no coolant mixed with oil. I took my engine apart replaced intake manifold gaskets, and with the thermastat the o-ring was serverly warped, and had 0 sealent on. So i bought new thermastat and o-ring (who would think a peice of rubber could cost 6 bucks?) So i put engine back together everythings fine... 3 days later my resevour is empty again. Sucking coolant.
Anyone have any other ideas? Thanks.
Anyone have any other ideas? Thanks.
Paul A
01-05-2007, 08:19 PM
Hi,
Sorry, but this sounds exactly the same as has just cost me a small fortune.
Head Gasket!
There was NO contamination of the oil or coolant with mine.
The gasket had gone between the water jacket and one of the cylinders.
Any "white smoke" at all?
Regards
Paul
Sorry, but this sounds exactly the same as has just cost me a small fortune.
Head Gasket!
There was NO contamination of the oil or coolant with mine.
The gasket had gone between the water jacket and one of the cylinders.
Any "white smoke" at all?
Regards
Paul
daterxies
01-05-2007, 08:23 PM
no white smoke at all... that is why im started to get annoyed by this...
just to confirm... white smoke as smoke slightly coming out of exaust, not the "steam" that comes out when its cold out correct?
just to confirm... white smoke as smoke slightly coming out of exaust, not the "steam" that comes out when its cold out correct?
Ramblin Fever
01-05-2007, 08:55 PM
Any leaks underneith? All your hoses good and tight?
If so, sorry, but the antifreeze has to be going somewhere, sounds like internally.
If so, sorry, but the antifreeze has to be going somewhere, sounds like internally.
amigo-2k
01-05-2007, 09:33 PM
Sounds like a cracked head (not gasket) to me.
Paul A
01-06-2007, 04:25 AM
no white smoke at all... that is why im started to get annoyed by this...
just to confirm... white smoke as smoke slightly coming out of exaust, not the "steam" that comes out when its cold out correct?
That's exactly what I meant, when cold ,the water vapour is not that hot so it condenses pretty quickly (white "smoke").
When the engine's good and hot it comes out almost superheated so it (unless the outside temp is REALLY cold) doesn't condense as quickly.
Had me baffled for a while!
Anyway, took it to a garage and they measure for gasses in the coolant which shows up the gasket fault.
Paul
just to confirm... white smoke as smoke slightly coming out of exaust, not the "steam" that comes out when its cold out correct?
That's exactly what I meant, when cold ,the water vapour is not that hot so it condenses pretty quickly (white "smoke").
When the engine's good and hot it comes out almost superheated so it (unless the outside temp is REALLY cold) doesn't condense as quickly.
Had me baffled for a while!
Anyway, took it to a garage and they measure for gasses in the coolant which shows up the gasket fault.
Paul
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