99' Chevy Silverado Pick Up
shiftyjm
12-27-2006, 02:38 AM
Well, with this kit, I'm planning on doing a bit of custom work.
I'm thinking of making it lay-frame (bagging it), doing a bit of custom interior work with some audio video components, an intake and exhaust or something, and making a custom air tank with air lines...
And for body work, I'm thinking along the lines of shaved door handles, tailgate, making a custom roll pan, and maybe frenching the license plate, maybe molding the bumper (not sure about that), and probably shaving the body line or something.
Still making plans and trying to figure out how i'm going to do the susp. as I've never bagged a truck before. So this is a first time thing for me.
And I got a new digital camera for xmas, so I can finally take good pictures opposed to using a crappy webcam.
This is the only photo I have right now...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/OOB99ChevySilverado.jpg
I'm thinking of making it lay-frame (bagging it), doing a bit of custom interior work with some audio video components, an intake and exhaust or something, and making a custom air tank with air lines...
And for body work, I'm thinking along the lines of shaved door handles, tailgate, making a custom roll pan, and maybe frenching the license plate, maybe molding the bumper (not sure about that), and probably shaving the body line or something.
Still making plans and trying to figure out how i'm going to do the susp. as I've never bagged a truck before. So this is a first time thing for me.
And I got a new digital camera for xmas, so I can finally take good pictures opposed to using a crappy webcam.
This is the only photo I have right now...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/OOB99ChevySilverado.jpg
lancer07
12-27-2006, 11:41 AM
its looking good. it sounds like its going to be awsome after your done with all that. as for baggin in. look at so pictures of trucks laying frame and look at the frame and you go off of that. keep up the good work
shiftyjm
12-27-2006, 09:22 PM
Well, I had to re-mount the gas tank, as the gas tank hung down too low. It actually hung down lower than the frame, so this would get in the way if I'm making my truck lay frame.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/StockGasTankMount.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/StockGasTankMount_2.jpg
So what I did, was carefully cut the gas tank out, and move it up a couple millimeters.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/GasTankRemoved.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/GasTankRemoved_2.jpg
Notice how flush the gas tank is with the frame now...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/GasTankSetInPlace.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/GasTankSetInPlace_2.jpg
Now that I got that out of the way, I'm going to start mocking up the susp. to see if I'm going to have to cut anything etc, and get it ready to cut the c-notch/step-notch out, hopefully I don't mess up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/StockGasTankMount.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/StockGasTankMount_2.jpg
So what I did, was carefully cut the gas tank out, and move it up a couple millimeters.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/GasTankRemoved.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/GasTankRemoved_2.jpg
Notice how flush the gas tank is with the frame now...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/GasTankSetInPlace.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/GasTankSetInPlace_2.jpg
Now that I got that out of the way, I'm going to start mocking up the susp. to see if I'm going to have to cut anything etc, and get it ready to cut the c-notch/step-notch out, hopefully I don't mess up.
NOMADGAMER
12-27-2006, 11:43 PM
so far so good, less flash on the body in the first picture!
is that an extended cab suicide rear door, or a true four door regular style?
is that an extended cab suicide rear door, or a true four door regular style?
shiftyjm
12-28-2006, 01:45 AM
Either I'm messed up, or only the passenger side is suicide. The driver side doesn't appear to have a door handle on the rear part of the cab. (Unless thats how they originally are, I'm not to farmiliar with these particular trucks).
I've got a question, for the front suspension; Do I just go about cutting the spring/shock, and cutting the control arms, and adjusting them for the truck to lay, or do I have to go about it a different way?
Does anybody have any trucks that they bagged, could you please post some pictures of your front and rear suspension for me, that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
PS: Any ideas you guys have for me to try out, feel free to mention, I'm interested in new ideas for it.
I've got a question, for the front suspension; Do I just go about cutting the spring/shock, and cutting the control arms, and adjusting them for the truck to lay, or do I have to go about it a different way?
Does anybody have any trucks that they bagged, could you please post some pictures of your front and rear suspension for me, that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
PS: Any ideas you guys have for me to try out, feel free to mention, I'm interested in new ideas for it.
shiftyjm
12-28-2006, 03:49 AM
Well guys, I've come to a decision I have to make before I can cut anything... Which wheels to use.
I've cut the choices down to 3, the Stock Silverado Wheels (chrome), an S10 set of wheels (center colored with a chrome lip), or a set of Toyota Supra Wheels from the fast and the furious kit (chrome).
Heres some pictures:
Silverado Wheels:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Wheels_Silverado.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Wheels_Silverado_2.jpg
S10 Wheels:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Wheels_S10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Wheels_S10_2.jpg
Supra Wheels:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Wheels_Supra_2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Wheels_Supra.jpg
I personally like the supra wheels the best, but I also, deep down have an eye for the s10 wheels... help me out.
Thanks
I've cut the choices down to 3, the Stock Silverado Wheels (chrome), an S10 set of wheels (center colored with a chrome lip), or a set of Toyota Supra Wheels from the fast and the furious kit (chrome).
Heres some pictures:
Silverado Wheels:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Wheels_Silverado.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Wheels_Silverado_2.jpg
S10 Wheels:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Wheels_S10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Wheels_S10_2.jpg
Supra Wheels:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Wheels_Supra_2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Wheels_Supra.jpg
I personally like the supra wheels the best, but I also, deep down have an eye for the s10 wheels... help me out.
Thanks
shiftyjm
12-28-2006, 06:02 AM
Okay, Well I've decided a new plan of my final outcome for this truck.
Going to paint the body flat black/primer, the s10 rims (chrome lip) paint them red, paint the frame red, and the interior will be black and red, and the grill and bumpers will be chrome.
anyways, I moved onto doing the rear end suspension, i'm just a little confused on how i'm going to do it, lots of planning to do here...
This is where i'm at right now:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/RearSuspension_RearView.jpg
Just wondering, do I mount the shocks like this? Or cut them and just make them really short shocks and mount them using the regular mounts? (NOTE: The frame is upsie down here, not upright.)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/RearSuspension_TopView.jpg
I'll be making the step notch here, but, where i place the bag, i have no idea, can anybody open this up in paint and show me where i should be putting the bag, and also maybe put it on the top view of the suspension aswell?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/RearSuspension_SideView.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/RearSuspension_SideView_2.jpg
thanks, any help is appreciated
Going to paint the body flat black/primer, the s10 rims (chrome lip) paint them red, paint the frame red, and the interior will be black and red, and the grill and bumpers will be chrome.
anyways, I moved onto doing the rear end suspension, i'm just a little confused on how i'm going to do it, lots of planning to do here...
This is where i'm at right now:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/RearSuspension_RearView.jpg
Just wondering, do I mount the shocks like this? Or cut them and just make them really short shocks and mount them using the regular mounts? (NOTE: The frame is upsie down here, not upright.)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/RearSuspension_TopView.jpg
I'll be making the step notch here, but, where i place the bag, i have no idea, can anybody open this up in paint and show me where i should be putting the bag, and also maybe put it on the top view of the suspension aswell?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/RearSuspension_SideView.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/RearSuspension_SideView_2.jpg
thanks, any help is appreciated
XrunnerSWB
12-28-2006, 01:37 PM
i would probably build a 4 link system and put the bags on the links and build some kind of "bed cage".
shiftyjm
12-28-2006, 02:52 PM
What do you mean, "Bed cage"?
Alright, I've done 2 sketches with MS Paint. (A top and bottom view)
-The green being where the air bag would be. (On the far side of the frame, not between the axel and frame.)
-The pink being the c-notch
-Blue being the top part of the 4 link (top of axel)
-Red being the bottom part of the 4link (bottom of axel)
And by doing this, I would be getting rid of the leaf springs.
Bottom View:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Rear4-LinkDrawing.jpg
Top View:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Rear4-LinkDrawing_2.jpg
Would this work as a 4 link set up?
Alright, I've done 2 sketches with MS Paint. (A top and bottom view)
-The green being where the air bag would be. (On the far side of the frame, not between the axel and frame.)
-The pink being the c-notch
-Blue being the top part of the 4 link (top of axel)
-Red being the bottom part of the 4link (bottom of axel)
And by doing this, I would be getting rid of the leaf springs.
Bottom View:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Rear4-LinkDrawing.jpg
Top View:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/Rear4-LinkDrawing_2.jpg
Would this work as a 4 link set up?
shiftyjm
12-28-2006, 08:52 PM
Well, I got the frame chopped, just have to make the step notches now; then start making the reverse 4 link.
:feedback:
Thanks.
:feedback:
Thanks.
NOMADGAMER
12-28-2006, 11:24 PM
you should sell me those S10 wheels and tires. What kit are they from !
rsxse240
12-29-2006, 01:10 AM
the reverse 4 link would never work in real life, unless you ONLY used it for show. it would be so unstable it would be super scary.
I suggest looking at some lowrider truck magazines, look at some of the places to get them for real trucks for references. pay attention to the fabrication used on 1:1 builds and do similar to your truck.
My buddy just did his real truck with a trailing arm setup that utilizes the stock front leaf spring pearch and mounts the airbag behind the axle just inside the frame with a diagonally mounted panhard bar to keep everything square. it rides like a dream.
I suggest looking at some lowrider truck magazines, look at some of the places to get them for real trucks for references. pay attention to the fabrication used on 1:1 builds and do similar to your truck.
My buddy just did his real truck with a trailing arm setup that utilizes the stock front leaf spring pearch and mounts the airbag behind the axle just inside the frame with a diagonally mounted panhard bar to keep everything square. it rides like a dream.
shiftyjm
12-29-2006, 02:09 AM
I've been told that the reverse 4 link wont work, but I've seen a couple mazda b2200's with the 4 link reversed, so :confused:.
Right now, I'm working on the step notch, I'll have to have a couple more reference pictures, but I think i'll have to do the reverse 4 link, unless i cut the gask tank right out :banghead:
Right now, I'm working on the step notch, I'll have to have a couple more reference pictures, but I think i'll have to do the reverse 4 link, unless i cut the gask tank right out :banghead:
XrunnerSWB
12-29-2006, 02:09 AM
by bedcage i mean the tubing used as a bracket to hold the airbag in place.
here is a good pic of one.
http://socalcustoms.com/Shows/2006/Ludikrs/pages/IMG_5223.htm
here is a good pic of one.
http://socalcustoms.com/Shows/2006/Ludikrs/pages/IMG_5223.htm
shiftyjm
12-29-2006, 03:46 AM
Well, I've got the first part of the step notch glued in place, i'm going to have to use a bunch of putty, glue and sanding to actually make it look decent, but right now, here's the building block of the step notch.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/StepNotch.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/StepNotch_2.jpg
And heres the box before I cut:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/BoxBeforeCutting.jpg
And After I cut:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/BoxAfterCutting.jpg
And with the way I cut it, I cut it clean enough that if i want, i can tub the box and put that panel back in, just raise it up with some styrene.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/StepNotch.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/StepNotch_2.jpg
And heres the box before I cut:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/BoxBeforeCutting.jpg
And After I cut:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/shifty--/ModelCars/99_Chevy_Silverado/BoxAfterCutting.jpg
And with the way I cut it, I cut it clean enough that if i want, i can tub the box and put that panel back in, just raise it up with some styrene.
rsxse240
12-29-2006, 11:19 AM
looks good so far. in the pic with the "bed cage" the aluminum box at the rear of the bed is a fuel cell. that's what will happen if you go with a 4 link. or you could build it to where the tank is below the bed all together.
about the reverse 4 link not working. I'm sure it WORKS, but I know I wouldn't want to drive it at highway speeds, since it seems that it would be unstable when encountering bumps, and ruts as the axle is being pushed over bumps rather than being pulled as in a normal suspension setup.
about the reverse 4 link not working. I'm sure it WORKS, but I know I wouldn't want to drive it at highway speeds, since it seems that it would be unstable when encountering bumps, and ruts as the axle is being pushed over bumps rather than being pulled as in a normal suspension setup.
evo8owner
12-29-2006, 09:59 PM
http://www.suicidedoors.com/images/gallery/649.jpg
http://www.suicidedoors.com/images/gallery/666.jpg
http://www.suicidedoors.com/images/gallery/660.jpg
How About Something Like This,You Could Keep The Stock Gastank
http://www.suicidedoors.com/images/gallery/666.jpg
http://www.suicidedoors.com/images/gallery/660.jpg
How About Something Like This,You Could Keep The Stock Gastank
shiftyjm
01-03-2007, 02:45 AM
Well I've decided to go with that suspension set up (see above, blue/chrome).
I've got two of the cross over mounts glued in place, all I really have to do is put the parallel arms in, the bags, shocks and the 2 links just off of the shocks. That will be done maybe tomorrow or the next day, then i'm going away for the weekend, and then school starts up again.
The step notch has been finished, but i'm going to have to do some more puttying as it keeps cracking from flexing/pressure being applied to the frame by my hands and cutting etc*.
I've also started shaving the tailgate, the doors will also be shaved.
Just a quick update to let you guys know where i'm at, pictures will be up as soon as possible.
I've got two of the cross over mounts glued in place, all I really have to do is put the parallel arms in, the bags, shocks and the 2 links just off of the shocks. That will be done maybe tomorrow or the next day, then i'm going away for the weekend, and then school starts up again.
The step notch has been finished, but i'm going to have to do some more puttying as it keeps cracking from flexing/pressure being applied to the frame by my hands and cutting etc*.
I've also started shaving the tailgate, the doors will also be shaved.
Just a quick update to let you guys know where i'm at, pictures will be up as soon as possible.
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