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RACER D12
09-20-2002, 04:38 PM
Just wanted to know what you guys think about the lexus is300 i was looking at my new R&T and the is cought my Eye:bloated: its rear Rwd which would be a plus for street racing it has 215hp but i think the car could do WAY better it has a inline six 24v 3.0 liter with some mods i think it could kick ass what you guys think its a 5 or 6 speed

DMC12
09-20-2002, 05:09 PM
I have to chuckle every time I see one. I mean, $33,000+ for factory rice-boy styling? And those clear tail lights that don't match anything on the car :( How did you come to even consider purchasing one?

I'm not the only one who feels this way:
...The IS300 sedan is an adolescent fantasy mobile...
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Cbass
09-20-2002, 05:26 PM
Don't be so quick to jump on IS300 DMC, aside from the ricey tail lights, it's a really nice car.

The IS300 shares the same platform as the Altezza(hence the lights), and is actually a pretty common car in Japanese drifting circles... They handle very well, have near limitless power potential, and are fairly luxurious as well.

I'm not sure of the engine code, but I think the IS300 is the recycled Supra engine, and can make as much as 800 hp... If you can afford one, they are quite good cars...

Cbass
09-20-2002, 05:32 PM
JPW :rolleyes:

http://www.is300.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13317178

Funny as hell.

street_racer_00
09-20-2002, 06:09 PM
I personally like the IS300. If you want a sporty sedan with pretty good straightline speed and handling, pretty good luxury, and really cutting edge styling, then this is a great car. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than a 330i, that's for sure, by about 15 grand.

RACER D12
09-20-2002, 06:48 PM
Wow 800hp:eek: now lets compare it to other cars that will run about the same price like Evo8 inline4 Sti flat four would you say the is300 is a better choice? also if you can think of any other cars to compare it to go ahead

TerminalVelocity
09-20-2002, 08:25 PM
for the cost of the car you could have more hp outa a classic mustang :rolleyes:

Difference is you would have WAY more torque

Yes, its flashy, its expensive, but who cares?

I dont, if its got the supra engine, tell the bent T toyota funboy car to go to hell, and take the supra, same engine, way more respect, not a granny car.

Hell, I know the pains of driving an old mans car, but you would have a 90yr old asian ladys car *All I ever see driving them, do before any of you try to flame me think on this, its MY opinion, and as I said, I have only seen elderly asian women driving them*

DMC12
09-20-2002, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Cbass
Don't be so quick to jump on IS300 DMC, aside from the ricey tail lights, it's a really nice car.

The IS300 shares the same platform as the Altezza(hence the lights), and is actually a pretty common car in Japanese drifting circles... They handle very well, have near limitless power potential, and are fairly luxurious as well.

I'm not sure of the engine code, but I think the IS300 is the recycled Supra engine, and can make as much as 800 hp... If you can afford one, they are quite good cars...
You make some good points, Cbass. :)

I guess what this all comes down to is "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and I was stating my views as RACER D12 had asked us to do.

If 1500 HP was possible from the IS300 engine then I still wouldn't be caught dead in one. I think they are about as cutting edge as the Aztek or the BMW (whatever that new ugly boat is called). I'd rather have a Mercedes (my definition of true luxury)... but I say that only because I owned an older model that was a tank and I wish i still had it. We had so much fun in that thing.

So once again I am befuddled by human perceptions and the inner workings of the grey matter. But I definitely know that, in *my opinion* there is no notable design, performance, or value in the IS300... and I will continue to laugh at them. Oh, and I wish there was some other guage of performance other then HP because I can beat cars with twice my HP... and besides those speed limit signs rarely allow us to enjoy that HP we blew our paychecks on.

TatII
09-20-2002, 11:13 PM
i think the IS is a damned fine car. it has good looks, even though it looks kinda girly. but in japan its the Altezza with a 2.0 liter engine soo its better balanced then the straight 6 that the usdm version has. but i'm dissapointed at its straightline speed. 0-60 in 7.2 seconds with a 5 speed? get outta here~

Cbass
09-20-2002, 11:53 PM
Keep in mind, the IS300 is a luxury sports sedan, and is a great all around car. It's not a drag racer, it's not a sports car, but it is a good comprimise for a daily driver.

Aside from the rice tail lights, I don't see anything wrong with it. It has a comfortable ride, yet is still a good handling car. It does leave something to be desired as far as acelleration goes, but it's not hard to add more power.

While I would kill to have a nice classic Mustang, TV, this would make a better daily driver...

RACER D12
09-21-2002, 11:01 AM
so TerminalVelocity your saying i sould get a mustang like one of the new GT ones? whats the max hp you chould get out of there engines

crunchymilk49
09-21-2002, 12:23 PM
haha..what retardd puts friggin armor all on their tires....

Cbass
09-21-2002, 03:23 PM
The common consensus is that it was a troll, considering the original poster had the same IP as an existing member :rolleyes:

Funny as hell though.

RACER D12
09-21-2002, 04:07 PM
:flipa: damit i went on ebay to look at supras over 30k for a 94 what the hell i hate F&F ever since that movie came out every asshole in america wants one and people like me who have known about them for some time now cant even get one :finger:

O and you guys know what the max hp you could get out of a new GT mustang and thanxs for the is300 feedback i still like them but i see your point to much money not ideal for street racing

RACER D12
09-21-2002, 04:10 PM
One more thing what you guys think of the new 350Z with the 320hp 6 speed

Cbass
09-21-2002, 04:27 PM
Seriously, I don't see whats wrong with an IS300 other than the altezza rice lights... Now I have to go find out what engine it uses...

Cbass
09-21-2002, 04:31 PM
Yeup, uses the same engine as the NA supra. Meaning that it wouldn't be too hard to rebuild that motor with aftermarket parts, or drop in a Supra turbo motor... It has a LSD standard, it's got a comfy ride... Magazine editors can't get enough of it, because it handles so well. Based off the altezza, and the altezza is a mad drift machine.

http://www.supraturbo.com/street_power_jan-feb98.htm

street_racer_00
09-21-2002, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by RACER D12
One more thing what you guys think of the new 350Z with the 320hp 6 speed
I thought it was 287 horsepower. Either way, it is a steal at 27 large.

Cbass
09-21-2002, 05:39 PM
That's what I thought too, but I wasn't sure... BTW, people have already done TT jobs on these Lexus 2JZ-GE motors. Anyone seen that video of the Venom viper and 2 RX7s getting dusted on the highway by a TT Lexus? He just barely passed the hennessey before they shut down.

RACER D12
09-21-2002, 05:51 PM
well the 310 is an option on the 350z i think. you think i could race with is300 and be major force to deal with

TatII
09-22-2002, 01:45 AM
unless you do some work to it. i would have to say no. alot of cars are faster then the IS.

R1-rider
09-22-2002, 07:05 PM
The SC400 that walks the 2 RX7's and the viper (not hennessey btw) did do a 2JZ-GTE motor swap. I forget the site that listed all the modifications done to the car, but the end result was VERY expensive. About 20 grand or so. So yes it is possible, but looking at the IS300 at 30K and needing to drop another 20K just for a new engine? I would rather get a good Z06 for that price.

And the 350Z as far as I know is only available in 287hp form, haven't come across any prepped factory 350Z.

Although I won't bad mouth the IS300 because it isn't truly a bad car, and is quite luxurious for a sports car frame, the only problem is the lack in power.

Supras have always been expensive, the price didn't change at all even after F&F came out.

dbartoschek
09-22-2002, 11:53 PM
OK....i'm not a Japanese car fan by any means....as you can see by my cars......but i went to the carshow the other day, and i have to say nothing impressed me more then some of the jap. cars.......the new Z car is a beauty.........oh...and the IS.......for the money i don't think it's worth it...i think if your looking for the most bang for your buck from a jap. car...look to Acura...

Cbass
09-23-2002, 03:28 AM
The whole idea of the IS300, along with the G20, is it's an affordable luxury sports sedan! There are faster cars, there are better handling cars, there are more luxurious cars, but there are no cars that are more luxurious, faster, and better handling than the IS300 and G20 for the same money.

It's like saying that a Z06 is a better car than an M5, or an AMG S55 because it's faster! Or that a Rolls Royce is better than either because it has a plusher ride.

I'd say the IS300 is only a bit more than a loaded Accord, and is a very pleasant alternative.

BTW, it took top honours in the performance tests in R&T's comparison of sports sedans a few months ago.

Layla's Keeper
09-23-2002, 09:32 AM
I've always thought that the Altezza was a pleasant little sedan with potential to become a great sports sedan. The FR layout and smooth, reliable, proven engine make it easy to get into. and the styling is easy on the eye, if a little benign compared to, say, an M3. True, the taillights are responsible for the key rice craze, and yes, the gauges look like they were designed by the Swiss, but after a few years, I think they'll be as popular amongst real import rodders as the 240SX because they'll be a cheap way to go rear-wheel drive.

Besides, the Altezza is good enough for Keichi Tsuchiya.:angel:

NSX-R-SSJ20K
09-23-2002, 10:18 AM
the IS300 is tyte DMC is just pissing on it cuz A) he doesn't know any better B) It is not too everyones tastes C) all altezza's/ euros (which they are not) come from the IS which is as close to the real toyota Altezza as you can get without achievin it !

:) its a very nice car i want one but i'd put a JZ engine init :hehehe:

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