What car to save for ?

i can't insure turbo charged cars so that means i am carless i got 1 year and a half to save some money for a car

which means around 6 grand to spend on a car


WHAT CAR SHOULD I GET ?

don't forget this is in a years time so prices should be down some more (HOPEFULLY)

i'm thinkin 180SX those are like 3000 pounds
or a 200SX but those are more expensive alot more going from 6 - 10 (face lift version_)

so i dunno and a skyline R32 GTR is 9 grand at the moment so you think that would drop value like a ton?

Well i dont know pounds but my friend has the same problem but hes got more time (why 1 year?) any ways my friend is going to get a car with no motor shells are like 1 or 2 grand US that is depending on how nice the inside is then he is buying a 500 and somthing Hp motor for somthing like $3900 it all should cost him around $6,000 NOT incuding mods. Now thats more ponys than a skyline or what ever (not to dis skylines i love them to) the only problem with this idea is reliabilty if you know what your doing or you have some one help you who does than you should not have to much or a problem.

Im asuming your planing to street race?

there isn't much for competition so not really unless you count the only dodge viper in town i doubt he races the only people who race are these stupid French hatchbacks and they suck A$$

1 year till i am twenty one and till i have money

insurance won't insure me for a 200SX till i am 21

not many people will insure me for a Civic Si .......... i had no penalties convictions nothing my record is as clean as a white sheet in a nunery or whatever

just england sucks i want a RX7 3rd gen but it seems they are still keeping their value

sell your body, do what u have to do, get the 9K for the R32

:D

R32 or RX7 type R ? ? ?

i dunno but come to thing of it R32 GTR Vspec would be nice ..... :D there's always a supra

the only thing is i can't drift a GTR i would but 6 spoke white alloys and get a Night Kids sticker fabricated

yea but its a GTR......who cares if it can drift, use it for zero-yon or wangan runs, but a beat up daily driver FR to learn on.

The RX-7 is nice, that is the 1st car I wanted, but the RB is a whole lot more stable and a ton more power is capable out of it. Plus if u got the V-Spec II with the ATTESA ETS PRO it would be RWD most of the time.

If you're good enough, you can drift a R32. I've seen people drift R33s and R34s.

True, but a 4WD drift requires power drifting, and it's hard on the tires. Tires aren't cheap.

I would suggest an interim car, something like an 86 that you can pick up for really cheap, ratbag and drift, and sell it for a little less than what you paid for it. Check all the police and bank auctions, see if you can buy a repossesed Trueno for 500 pounds or something! You never know, you might be able to find a GT APEX for a thousand...

Trueno's don't exist in england all i have to work with is probably a 180SX

No Trueno! Sweet jesus, man, sweet jesus! Not even a Hachi Go?

That doesn't leave many choices then, does it! I'll try to find some good cars to suggest...

Do they have older 200sx S12s in England? If so, I'd suggest one of those, or an old audi coupe quattro, or an old escort RS

How about an MR2? They are nice little cars, and with a 4AGE, they don't qualify for displacement taxes...

The problem with a RS is that it's turbocharged :(

How about a Ford Capri? With the 2.3 liter, they are pretty rippy cars... you can always turbo one later, with factory parts...

Capri has no credability


MR2 Turbo might be good i looked in Max Power they reckon you can get one for about 3200 so it would be a direct contender if i don't make it to 6 or more grand ya know! the 180SX is 3200 as well i think i like the Nissan more tho .... i dunno see what i do i got ages yet till i can buy one to insure ........ actually i can get a N/A MR2 and insure that they aren't bothered about N/A cars .... hmmmm

pics of cars i can chose

O yer i ain't havin nothing that isn't an import


3995
200SX Coupe
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/470687200SXcoupe.jpg

200SX
4200
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/206712NA200SX.jpg

4995
MR2 Turbo
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/519891MR3Turbo.jpg

Civic Vti 92 3995
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/961886CivicVtiBlue.jpg

More Expensive cars that i might be able to aquire

9995 Skyline R32 GTR
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/249571skylineR32.jpg


10450 200SX 1999
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/334960200SXblack.jpg

9995 Toyota Supra Turbo
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/396196supra.jpg

7995 (auto) A very Nice RX7 that needs a manual Gearbox has done 30,000 miles
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/345030RX7black.jpg

13995 (too expensive but looks nice :) ) Blue Rx7 that looks tyte
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/286060RX7Blue.jpg

the number above the cars is the price thought i'd mention that !

oops missed one

Honda Prelude (driven two of these i like them)

9995 but you can get soem for 6995 this one happens to be expensive

I'm almost thinking England has broken you man... :confused:

Why the hondas?

What's wrong with a Ford Capri 2.8i? They are quick cars, and don't look bad, except for the back... but they look pretty good with flares. Kind of old styled, but nice, and since it's from Ford of Europe, it's an import.

I would advise a NA MR2 though, they are easy to find, built really well, and a blast to drive... I was thinking an earlier model than the SW20, like the first gen ones.

1992 J MAZDA RX7, 2.6 TWIN TURBO TYPE-R , Metallic Green, 44000 , MOT-October 2003, 0208 7150878, 280BHP, ABS, Air Conditioning, Alloys, arriving soon, CD stereo, Central Locking, Electric Mirrors, Electric Windows, One year warranty & MOT, Power Steering, rear spoiler, www.japncars.co.uk, z 0208 7150878, zMOBILE:07932 040966. £7990


what you think of that? sounds good to me they ain't got it yet but that might be the most i'll be able to afford hopefully the prices will go down whilst i is still waitin till i'm 21 .............. :bandit:

as for the ford capri never liked them just don't its like its like grown in england at the Daganham Ford Plant up north (which is where they build all the fords for the EU)

i like preludes ......cheaper to insure too ........ by the way insurance is gonna be a massive bitch and petrol is astro priced too

but the RX7 sounds like such a good idea 50/50 weight distribution it holds the production car record as the fastest stopping vehicle how can i argue with that :flash:

what i mean by import is that they are imported from asia :D better cars


And once again Capri's have no cred they rust too much too they are fords (once again they build ALL european fords in England):bloated:

Ah, so what you mean by "import" is Japanese, because to my knowledge, the only other asian cars are korean... :p

There is no 86? I'm stumped frankly...

theres a measley hatch back not like the AE86 its completely different and shite we have no AE86 i am so pissed and no one will import one

subaru is korean right?

alrite japanese imports

Subaru is Japanese.

I still say save up and get the R32.

arg its gonna be a bitch ..........yea might as well but the only thing is

i get to be Takeshi if that happens :flipa:

I'd get a 180 and promise myself not to throw any money into it(aside from suspension and tires)!

Whats the point of walking while saving?

problem is i have to walk i can't insure any of these cars except the civic which'll cost as much as its worth to insure each year so i am waiting till i am 21 when i can insure a car...........

They won't let you insure a 180? How about a Silvia Q?

noah ............


for me to get like a rate of 700 pounds a year for insurance i have to drive a 1.1 liter peugeot 106 thats like 5 years old and worth 1500

thats why england sucks and thats why i have to wait till i'm twenty one and there's no point in having a car in the mean time because it'll be a piece of shit and a waste of money so thats why i decided to save money up and get a decent car like a RX7 ..... and i think i am leaning more to the RX7 the question now is will i be able to afford the insurance even tho i'll be 21 :(

So why are you in england?

don't ask me that all i know is my visa ran out and i had to come back i would've prefered staying in the us but i need a working permit if i did or do go back :(

So you are from England originally? :confused:

In regards to the MR2, from people who've tuned them: Go turbo or don't go at all. The difference between NA and turbo is incredible. I'd go Silvia personally. S13, S14, S15, they all good. :)

arg i want an S15 but just too damned expensive and so is the S14 wierd ............. no S13 but there is the RS13 altho i would most likely go for a RX7 i dunno if i'll be able to afford the costs to run the car yet

Well, he's talking about a daily driver until he's 21, and can insure something with a turbo.

The NA MR2s are slow, yes, but they do handle well, and engine swaps are always possible. The original MR2s are featherweights, and I don't think it's much of a chore to fit a 3S-GTE in, and then you'd have 200 hp, BEFORE tuning. This is the same engine that powered the Pikes peak tacoma, and the LeMans supra!

hmmmmmm sounds interesting :)

The only thing you could really complain about(aside from them being small 2 seaters), is the styling... it's kinda 80s angular style.

http://www.bryanf.com/MR2/sey2k/mk1e.jpg

http://mr2.325ci.com/photos/111csp_mr2.jpg

http://www.mr2mk1club.com/LPG_files/PaulWoods.jpg

A few tasteless body kits

http://www.erebunicorp.com/ge/toymr285.htm

Think of it as a mid engined 86... another interesting note, it's not hard to swap in 20V motors into these either...

I think this is a really nice one, sort of looks like a smaller F40!

http://www.divisionone.org/sn/rebirth.html

i've been referred to Porsche 944, from 80s if u want cheap. it is NA & has perfect 50/50 weight balance, motor in front & tranny in rear at differential.

weren't you in Dallas or sumtin?

arg i don't really like those MR2's they are ugly i prefer the newer ones to those ones if ya know what i mean

but the porsche 944 turbo is a nice car but the thing is i don't think it is something i would want to modify i like the look of it but thats it i want something a bit more meatier if ya know what i mean! ! ! !


but yea i used to live in plano i moved back now



i was born in sweden (in response to a post i missed)...........

GO FOR THE CIVIC!
:rolleyes: sorry just a Honda fan.
or maybe buy yourself the 200SX.
The R32 looks good.
I'd rather buy a cheaper car and add mods on it rather than buy a expensive car and keep it stock.
I dunno that's just me.
But I'd buy the 200SX and Civic mostly just because out of price. All the cars in those pics look like they're in good condition.:bloated:

i'd rather buy an expensive car and not keep it stock


it needs a cusco lsd new turbos new intercooler air intake exhaust etc fuel controllers and maybe some nitrous to beat the local Viper:devil:

944s are great, but maintainance is a killer... Get a 924! Cheap, great handling, cheap to run, the only complaint, total lack of power :(

Hell, get a 931, that's what I'm buying!

man ur even lucky to be able to see a skyline , im prob never gonna even come near a GTR living in new york ... SIGH...
but anyways here are my suggestions ... GET THAT R32, but if it is too much money , may i suggest a MR2 G-limited?
non turbo so insurance wont make u bend over and take it in the rear.

i think the g limited is a very good buy for its capabilities.

i seen a skyline recently so i wanna beat it if i can get one i might do it because i kinda really want a skyline altho RX7's are :sun:

I keep saying this, and nobody believes me, but Mitsubishi Starions/Chrysler Conquests make excellent drifters. RWD, turbo, tuned for oversteer from the factory, strong tranny, and I believe the engine is the one that made its way into the Eclipse so there should be parts available. Plus they have a great "I wanna be a Porsche when I grow up" look.

Cbass, you can back me up right? You know stuff...

i dunno i been looking at alsorts of different cars and i can't find one i still thinking of getting a RX7 to drift with

i wouldn't mind an R32 GTR VSpec but i want the R34 if i get a skyline so thats staying on the shelf as a potential car

Starions rock! I wish they made more of them... The easiest way to describe a Starion is to say, take a dodge Daytona, and make it real wheel drive.

So whats the deal with the insurance and the turbo? Is it just for the turbo Skyline, or does it mean FD turbos, 951s, MR2 GTS?

I think the optimum car for you is a 944S2... NA, 220 hp DOHC 3.0 liter engine, 50/50 weight distribution, and a big aftermarket.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~dr_scott/944S2-FRONT.jpg
http://www.turboclub.com/makes/por/Por944T/farzaanl.jpg

In fact, the 924 was car the first gen RX7s completely ripped off, and the 944 was the car the second gen RX7s almost totally ripped off.

www.944S2.com

now that would be sweet but i want a RX7 there aren't many modified ones in england and i want it to be kitted etc and work on it lalala

Hey, you forgot the third party in the glassback styling ripoff scam of the late 70's-early 80's: the C4 Corvette. Park it next to a 1st gen RX-7 and a Porsche 924. They're damn near identical.

Of course, it happened again in the mid90's. Porsche 968 sort of begat FD which begat the C5 Corvette. Of course, Chevrolet fans will deny this to their last breath.

I agree on the 944. They're slick. Though you can pic up a 928S4 for a few dollars more and really embarrass the street crowds.

i saw one of those the other day but i want twin turbos i dunno why i like the idea of racing the VR4's and Vielside supras around here not to mention the GTR's that are knocking about

Did I mention you can get 400hp out of a 944 turbo engine without difficulty? 300hp just with a chip and exhaust...

The S2 would work well because you have to have a NA engine... If you want 500hp/450ftlbs, you could build a 968 Turbo engine to go in it as well... There are all sorts of lightweight fiberglass parts made for them, as the 944 was used heavily in amateur sports car racing.

< nissan fan !!!!!!!!!!

In fact, the 924 was car the first gen RX7s completely ripped off, and the 944 was the car the second gen RX7s almost totally ripped off.

Gimme a break. You cant call a rotary sports car unoriginal no matter its styling.

Originally posted by Fliquer


Gimme a break. You cant call a rotary sports car unoriginal no matter its styling.

I agree the styling on rotary's are similar to other but its original in the most part

best example 3rd gen ..... is there any other car that looks like it?

The FC is a beautiful car, and they departed from Porsche styling on that one!

I'm not saying the FB was not an original car, because it was, but the styling was pretty straight up ripoff of the 924. Why do you think they made such an early styling change to the car? Even Mazda recognized the car was too similar to the 924, so they updated it to give it some more distinctive styling cues of it's own.

I don't intend to demean the RX7, but the styling was drawn from the 924. The only car that looked even remotely like that was the TR7, and it was a far sight different from the 924 and RX7.

$10,000 for a supra turbo!? Dude in America supra turbos sell for 25k and up! So if thats in american money get the supra. They are very fast stock and with simple upgrades they can be beasts. They look awesome too.

-or is that some other currency? Pounds?

why is this post so damn slow! answer me please!!!!


thanks, i'm very impacient

You're only thinking of the thrid-gen cars. The 2nd gen V6 cars are cheap as hell. Heavy, but cheap.

Celica-Supras are even cheaper, and look badass with the factory "Samurai" bodykit. I should know, my grandfather owned one.:angel:

Originally posted by flyz33
$10,000 for a supra turbo!? Dude in America supra turbos sell for 25k and up! So if thats in american money get the supra. They are very fast stock and with simple upgrades they can be beasts. They look awesome too.

-or is that some other currency? Pounds?

pay attention i'm in england

but it still works out as 15k :D

but i just had a thought if i had 10k pounds i wouldn't buy a supra no i'd buy a R32 Skyline GTR V spec

i found out i can get a Silvia S15 SPECR for 9,999 250hp 6 speed gearbox i'm not bother about top speed or high power. 6 SPEED! and its rear wheel drive and it has a turbo HEAVEN!! i've currently got 1250pounds towards it but after chrismas i might only have 1000

I just saw this thread and for thoses who might think of getting an RX-7 they are fun as hell to drive but a major pain in the a$$ to maintain. You need at least $1,000 USD in the bank at all times just in case something goes wrong or breaks. Plus insurance is a !@#$% problem I'm 23 been driving for 2-3 yrs. (lived in philly mass transportation so need for a license plus was lazy in high school) and my insurance dropped at 23 now I pay $1,660 USD per/year and I have no tickets or accidents on my record. Not sure if it's worth keeping at this time but I will definitely be owning for years to come if not now later.

P.S.
just some advice if you get one never take it to a Mazda dealership to be fixed the charged me $2,500 USD for parts I didn't need (i.e. highest grade tires available, charging me for work I could do myself).

Sorry about length of thread :silly2: