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turbo b20?


spawnliban
12-04-2006, 01:27 PM
Is it good idea to turbo b20? or do i gotta do alot of modifications?

CivicSpoon
12-04-2006, 02:26 PM
If you want it to last, then you'll need to do sleeves, pistons, and connecting rods.

spawnliban
12-04-2006, 04:03 PM
ok now one more thing not too sure if you can answer this but here it goes

potential wise b20vtec or b20turbo ?
price wise b20vtec or b20turbo ?

i have a feeling its both b20vtec lol.

Schister66
12-04-2006, 05:12 PM
If you want it to last, then you'll need to do sleeves, pistons, and connecting rods.


not necessarily true....it depends entirely on the power goal and the setup

spawnliban
12-04-2006, 06:11 PM
at least 300whp i might be dreaming but wanna see if its possible

CivicSpoon
12-04-2006, 09:36 PM
not necessarily true....it depends entirely on the power goal and the setup
True, but most people want enough power to need a good rebuild. Or they end up turboing it with a little boost and in the end turn it up anyways.

Yes spawnliban, the B20/vtec is the answer to both those question. Potentially, you could build the b20/vtec and then turbo it. And Building up the b20/vtec will be less expensive as buying a turbo kit (though you can piece together one for a lot cheaper than buying a prefabbed kit). Really depends on how far you're willing to go with it.

spawnliban
12-05-2006, 01:35 AM
well before i started this project price wasnt a thing till i realized how much i paid for everything lol. anyway i'll prolly go with turbo first then vtec and see how that works out. i'll prolly do the suspension before i get to the turbo

Schister66
12-05-2006, 03:14 AM
On my stock engine 99 GSR, i did my setup like this....

1. Standard setup....no frills. Made a respectable 275whp on a Dyno Dynamics dyno

2. Replaced turbo, topmount manifold rather than the log, a 3" downpipe and exhaust, Crome Pro/Hondata S2b, RC880s rather than 550s

3. Engine rebuild....Eagle/CP----no sleeves



what i'm getting at, is that if you dont have the money to do it all at once, then just go in stages, but make sure they're logical stages. Personally i would ditch the B20 and find an LS engine because the stock sleeves are stronger

spawnliban
12-05-2006, 05:21 PM
Err i cant ditch the dam b20 not just yet. thats the hardest part i try to do alot of research but the thing i might never get is what to do. So far this is what ive done b20b s1 exedy clutch/finanza flywheel/2.25 custom cat back wit 2.5' muffler now the vtec has to all go in at one time. even if i do vtec tommorow wit the SI head, its only gonna be like 160 whp which sucks! dont know which pistons to go with if i should touch the cam gears change manifold all that good stuff. clueeeless :D

Schister66
12-05-2006, 07:46 PM
toss a GSR head on it and you're done w/ the VTEC part of it. The stock manifold will work just fine, but if you want to upgrade eventually, then do it. You could make 250whp easily on the stock engine AS LONG AS you have a solid setup and you have the car professionally tuned.

spawnliban
12-06-2006, 12:50 PM
I will definately get the car tuned by this place i know gonna cost me I think havent checked prices and all, but, with setup do you mean changing the internals like pistons and all?

Schister66
12-06-2006, 02:10 PM
no, you'd be fine on a stock internal setup at that power level...

spawnliban
12-06-2006, 03:32 PM
so basically your telling me ima get 250whp IF i add gsr head on my car. obviously after i get the following :

1. New rod and main bearings.
2. New head gasket, Oil pan gasket, rear main seal, Oil return gasket, oil filter
3. Thrust washers
4. fittings for running the external oil line.
5. New VTEC Water pump.
6. New VTEC oil pump.
7. New VTEC Timing belt.
8. ARP Bolts

- Intake, Headers, and exhaust
???

* thanks to Tom...a.k.a. (simple4012) and mark (NAspirated). for that :D

Schister66
12-06-2006, 05:47 PM
to make that power level you need to put a turbo setup on your STOCK B20 (unless there's something wrong with it) and get it tuned professionally....you do not need to rip it apart and rebuild it IF it is in good condition

spawnliban
12-06-2006, 11:17 PM
well vtec and turbo 250whp makes sense, now would you ever sell ur turbo? :D

Schister66
12-07-2006, 01:47 AM
i have 3 of them...2 are spoken for and the other is on my car.....money talks

Garrett T3/T04E 60trim .63 ar w/ 5k miles
Garrett T3/60-1 .63ar (brand new)
KKK K26 .48ar

spawnliban
12-07-2006, 10:59 AM
well how much? and is it complete kit? where are you? I do not know much about turbos but i'll do a lil research then get back to you because definately i think (not sure yet) id rather put turbo first then vtec it :D

Schister66
12-07-2006, 12:44 PM
well the setup i have right now is pretty much amazing if i do say so myself. Everything is new (50 miles because of my damn alternator). I actually sat down and figured it out, i have slightly more than $3600 in the setup itself. If you're serious about this, know that its new and make an offer....this setup WILL make you over 600whp with no trouble at all, but you're going to need larger injectors and a bigger intercooler for that power level....my 550s and the JRC 8" will max at about 400whp...i dont plan on going any higher than that anyway

CoreyR T3 Topmount
Garrett T3/60-1
3" downpipe and open dump
2.5" charge piping
Vibrant couplers and Tbolt clamps
Tial 38mm wastegate
Tial 50mm bov
JRC 8" intercooler
Stealthmode oil line kit
Boomslang conversion harness
J-K Tuning chipped P28 on Crome

Schister66
12-07-2006, 12:49 PM
Here are a few pics of the whole setup on my GSR....which is now in storage :(

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j193/Schister66-3/CoreyRTopMount092.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j193/Schister66-3/CoreyRTopMount033.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j193/Schister66-3/000_1484.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j193/Schister66-3/Turboweekend018.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j193/Schister66-3/11-26-06_1618.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j193/Schister66-3/11-26-06_1617.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j193/Schister66-3/11-26-06_1616.jpg

spawnliban
12-08-2006, 11:09 AM
Where do you live?

Schister66
12-08-2006, 01:07 PM
Fargo ND....it would be easiest to do some kind of pick up, but if that's not feasable, i will ship....the only problem is that there is a lot of stuff....

99turboDC2 for AIM
[email protected] for MSN

add me and we'll talk on one of those rather than posting back and forth

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