Alero Transmission
cubanreuben
12-04-2006, 01:17 PM
Hey Guys...the problems aren't stopping. So, I'm hoping this post will address two things.
First, as many of you have seen, I have a 2003 Oldsmobile Alero GL1, Automatic, with the 2.2L Ecotec engine. It has 55,000 miles. I've spent a LOT of money on repairs for this car, and now I'm REALLY thinking about getting rid of it for this reason--about 1/4 time I drive the car, while accelerating, when the car shifts from 3 to overdrive, the car hesiatates--it won't shift into overdrive for about 5 seconds. Then, all of a sudden, it kindof "jerks" into gear--and you can feel it when it shifts too. I was gonna perform transmission maintenance, but now I'm really considering getting a new car...i can't afford a new tranny. I'm hoping I can trade it off and let GM handle all the problems.
Which brings me to my second point. I've found an '06 Grand Prix. It's the standard base Grand Prix, and has 32,000 miles. The only other package it has is the convenience package, with remote start, radio controls on the steering wheel, and the advance driver information center. The dealer wants $12,900 for this car. If I buy the extended warranty, do you guys think it is worth it??? Because I can't justify repairing my Alero AGAIN!
Thanks, in advance. :)
First, as many of you have seen, I have a 2003 Oldsmobile Alero GL1, Automatic, with the 2.2L Ecotec engine. It has 55,000 miles. I've spent a LOT of money on repairs for this car, and now I'm REALLY thinking about getting rid of it for this reason--about 1/4 time I drive the car, while accelerating, when the car shifts from 3 to overdrive, the car hesiatates--it won't shift into overdrive for about 5 seconds. Then, all of a sudden, it kindof "jerks" into gear--and you can feel it when it shifts too. I was gonna perform transmission maintenance, but now I'm really considering getting a new car...i can't afford a new tranny. I'm hoping I can trade it off and let GM handle all the problems.
Which brings me to my second point. I've found an '06 Grand Prix. It's the standard base Grand Prix, and has 32,000 miles. The only other package it has is the convenience package, with remote start, radio controls on the steering wheel, and the advance driver information center. The dealer wants $12,900 for this car. If I buy the extended warranty, do you guys think it is worth it??? Because I can't justify repairing my Alero AGAIN!
Thanks, in advance. :)
BNaylor
12-04-2006, 01:47 PM
Sorry to hear that decision on your Alero but the Grand Prix would be a good choice, however, you should consider taking the extended warranty. On '06 models GM may have raised the base warranty to 100K miles so check that out first. The 04 and up Grand Prixs are not trouble free. Just visit the Pontiac Grand Prix forum and review the old threads/posts. I Moderate the Grand Prix forum too.
On cost check the NADA and the Kelly Blue Book values for a guide.
www.nada.com
www.kbb.com
On cost check the NADA and the Kelly Blue Book values for a guide.
www.nada.com
www.kbb.com
cubanreuben
12-11-2006, 03:18 PM
Sorry to hear that decision on your Alero but the Grand Prix would be a good choice, however, you should consider taking the extended warranty. On '06 models GM may have raised the base warranty to 100K miles so check that out first. The 04 and up Grand Prixs are not trouble free. Just visit the Pontiac Grand Prix forum and review the old threads/posts. I Moderate the Grand Prix forum too.
On cost check the NADA and the Kelly Blue Book values for a guide.
www.nada.com (http://www.nada.com)
www.kbb.com (http://www.kbb.com)
Just to let you guys know...I successfully traded off the Alero. I really loved its styling, but HATED its mechanical issues. I wish I were as lucky as some of the other people out there who have had no mechanical problems! Anyways, good luck to the rest of you guys out there. I know am the proud owner of a 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix with 31,800 miles. It has the regular 3800 Series III v6 engine, and has ABS and remote start. I love this car! Thanks for your help with my Alero. I truly do appreciate it!
On cost check the NADA and the Kelly Blue Book values for a guide.
www.nada.com (http://www.nada.com)
www.kbb.com (http://www.kbb.com)
Just to let you guys know...I successfully traded off the Alero. I really loved its styling, but HATED its mechanical issues. I wish I were as lucky as some of the other people out there who have had no mechanical problems! Anyways, good luck to the rest of you guys out there. I know am the proud owner of a 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix with 31,800 miles. It has the regular 3800 Series III v6 engine, and has ABS and remote start. I love this car! Thanks for your help with my Alero. I truly do appreciate it!
BNaylor
12-12-2006, 03:31 AM
Congratulations. What did you get for trade-in on the Alero?
We'll see you over at the Grand Prix forum.
We'll see you over at the Grand Prix forum.
cubanreuben
12-12-2006, 10:56 AM
Congratulations. What did you get for trade-in on the Alero?
We'll see you over at the Grand Prix forum.
Well, here's the story about the trade in. I think it's a good trade value, right?
So, I traded in the Alero. As many of you know, it is a 2003 Alero with the 2.2L Ecotec, 4 SPD Automatic transmission, and had 54,300 miles. It had been well maintained, and cosmetically it was almost flawless. Mechanically...well, the transmission was going, and I had spent $xxxx on it previously...so I was ready to dump the thing.
I was talking to the dealer, and they had no idea of the repair history of the car. They said it looked and drove great. Originally, they were going to give me $5500 for the car. Upon wanting to buy the Grand Prix, I convinced them to give me $6000 for the car. (I owe approximately $5400 on the car.) So, I had about $600 positive equity to put towards the purchase of the Grand Prix. To help me out with the finance, they did something I hadn't seen before. They raised the price of the Grand Prix by $1000, but gave me $1000 more on my trade ($7000). I guess they did this so that it looked like I made a pretty good down payment on the car...so I wouldn't be penalized by the bank for not making a big down payment on the loan. But push come to shove, I'm paying $12,337 for the Grand Prix at 8.25% interest. I'm pretty pleased with this purchase. All I have to do now is buy the extended warranty in a couple of months. ($1700 approximately...) But that extended warranty will cover me until 100,000 miles or 5 years, and has free roadside assistance through the duration of the extended warranty period. With all the trouble I've had, I have no problem shelling out that money for that service...because I know that I may need it!
So again...do you think the trade-in value was reasonable??? I looked it up on KBB for the condition and the miles...and they estimated that I could get between 5400-5800 for the car.
Thanks again.
We'll see you over at the Grand Prix forum.
Well, here's the story about the trade in. I think it's a good trade value, right?
So, I traded in the Alero. As many of you know, it is a 2003 Alero with the 2.2L Ecotec, 4 SPD Automatic transmission, and had 54,300 miles. It had been well maintained, and cosmetically it was almost flawless. Mechanically...well, the transmission was going, and I had spent $xxxx on it previously...so I was ready to dump the thing.
I was talking to the dealer, and they had no idea of the repair history of the car. They said it looked and drove great. Originally, they were going to give me $5500 for the car. Upon wanting to buy the Grand Prix, I convinced them to give me $6000 for the car. (I owe approximately $5400 on the car.) So, I had about $600 positive equity to put towards the purchase of the Grand Prix. To help me out with the finance, they did something I hadn't seen before. They raised the price of the Grand Prix by $1000, but gave me $1000 more on my trade ($7000). I guess they did this so that it looked like I made a pretty good down payment on the car...so I wouldn't be penalized by the bank for not making a big down payment on the loan. But push come to shove, I'm paying $12,337 for the Grand Prix at 8.25% interest. I'm pretty pleased with this purchase. All I have to do now is buy the extended warranty in a couple of months. ($1700 approximately...) But that extended warranty will cover me until 100,000 miles or 5 years, and has free roadside assistance through the duration of the extended warranty period. With all the trouble I've had, I have no problem shelling out that money for that service...because I know that I may need it!
So again...do you think the trade-in value was reasonable??? I looked it up on KBB for the condition and the miles...and they estimated that I could get between 5400-5800 for the car.
Thanks again.
BNaylor
12-13-2006, 07:43 PM
The dealer was playing with you. The $7000 is what your Alero was probably worth based on the NADA guides. They were acting like they were doing you a favor. 99% of the dealers both new and used go by the NADA book. According to the NADA guides your Alero is worth around $7200 and that is average trade-in value. Trade-in value is what the dealers go by. The car being in average condition with acceptable mileage.
I had our '02 Alero GL2 (3.4L) with around 40K miles back then appraised a few months ago and the local Chevy dealer was going to give me $7800 trade-in for it. I was looking at a '07 Impala SS. They loved the low mileage on it and overall excellent condition.
The transaction looks shaky to me. Especially since they jacked up the price of the Grand Prix by $1000 and out of the kindness of their hearts gave you more ($1K) than what they thought your Alero was worth? :screwy:
From what I see you got ripped by that Stealership by at least $1000 because they short changed you on the trade-in value by at least $1000-$1200.
The saleman should give you a big hug. You made his/her X-Mas for them. Someone made a good sales commission. Oh well ! :dunno:
I had our '02 Alero GL2 (3.4L) with around 40K miles back then appraised a few months ago and the local Chevy dealer was going to give me $7800 trade-in for it. I was looking at a '07 Impala SS. They loved the low mileage on it and overall excellent condition.
The transaction looks shaky to me. Especially since they jacked up the price of the Grand Prix by $1000 and out of the kindness of their hearts gave you more ($1K) than what they thought your Alero was worth? :screwy:
From what I see you got ripped by that Stealership by at least $1000 because they short changed you on the trade-in value by at least $1000-$1200.
The saleman should give you a big hug. You made his/her X-Mas for them. Someone made a good sales commission. Oh well ! :dunno:
maxwedge
12-13-2006, 07:53 PM
Correct on the NADA, this is more commonly used in the industry nationwide, I am a heavy equipment/auto adjuster in NYS and that is the bible for valuations.
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