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enzo@af
02-20-2001, 02:47 PM
Hey. I would really really really really appreciate everyone's help on this.

On May 25, 1996, Bradley James Nowell, lead singer of Sublime died from a heroin overdose. Well, that would make this May 25 the 5 year anniversary of his death. So, as a tribute, I am trying to get as many people as I can to vote for the video "Santeria" to get it on TRL (http://www.mtv.com/sendme.tin?page=/mtv/tubescan/trl/playmysong/index.jhtml).

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/1785/bradley_cartoon.gif
So, please, spread this message to any other boards you can, and tell your friends. So, on May 24th please please please please go to TRL (http://www.mtv.com/sendme.tin?page=/mtv/tubescan/trl/playmysong/index.jhtml) and write in "Santeria" by Sublime.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!

Robs944S
02-20-2001, 03:22 PM
YAHOOOO! lets here it for the herion addicts! yeah! lets celebrate...

c'mon guys....whats next? Get Blues brothers back on the air?????

unite@af
02-20-2001, 06:43 PM
Rob, You kind of pissed me off with that comment. Have you ever listened to the song, Boss DJ? It is by Sublime and I think you should listen to it. A direct quote from the song is “a funky not a junky but I know where to get it”. If you don’t like the band or the singer then fine but get educated about his death. He was a man who was addicted, and enjoyed the heroin fix. Am I saying this activity is ok, Hell no. But please don’t use your ill-fated humor on our message board. Rest in peace Brad…

[Edited by unite@af on 02-20-2001 at 07:18 PM]

enzo@af
02-20-2001, 06:44 PM
I asked for a voluntary favor, not ridicule.

You probably thought you might get a laugh or two out of your comments, but not from me. I found it quite offensive. You trivialized my efforts, trivialized his death, and thus trivialized a person who has had such a positive impact on my life, as well as many others.

His music means something to his fans, more than what the Backstreet boys can say (or, rather, their songwriters can say). Bradley was a great musician...an musical genius, in my opinion.

Thank you for pointing out his flaw, by the way. Yes, Bradley was addicted to Heroin, and he knew it and disliked it. Several times he admitted himself to get help, but to no avail. He sang that he knew it would kill him (i.e., "Pool Shark" he says "one day I'm gonna lose the war"). I am not celebrating his addiction, but rather his accomplishments and his life.

I understand that you probably didn't realize what your comments would mean. I'm just asking people to please, do me, and every other Sublime fan, this simple favor. It will mean so much to his fans.

RIP, Brad

NissanZ@af
02-21-2001, 12:25 AM
I'll vote for it. Sublime is one of my favorite bands.

Rob, I have to say that you pissed me off with your comments. If you knew a damn thing about Sublime, you'd know that Brad was a great person with tremendous musical talent and a huge impact on his fans. If you're here to piss people off, go somewhere else. We don't need nor want your comments about Brad's unfortunate death on this board. It's insulting to have people making fun of the death of such a great person.

Robs944S
02-21-2001, 12:33 AM
You guys are taking this way too seriously. we all loved his music, but does that make it OK for him to be a herion addict?????

Robs944S
02-21-2001, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by unite@af
He was a man who was addicted, and enjoyed the heroin fix.


& thats a person who can change your life? Get a positive role model.

NissanZ@af
02-21-2001, 12:44 AM
Rob, if you think Brad wasn't a positive role model, you're a complete and total idiot. Brad didn't want to be addicted to heroin. He even tried to quit. If you think he's our role model because he did heroin, you're completely wrong. He's our role model because of his music and the great person that he was. You've probably never even heard a single Sublime song in your life.

Robs944S
02-21-2001, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by NissanZ@af
Brad didn't want to be addicted to heroin. He even tried to quit.

Yes officer..I did not want to go 150,,,I even tried to quit! Get real!!!!!!!


He's our role model because of his music and the great person that he was.

Once again....I see it troubling that you all see a herion addict as a "great person"


You've probably never even heard a single Sublime song in your life.

I actually like their music. It has a original sound to it.

enzo@af
02-21-2001, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Robs944S
Originally posted by NissanZ@af
Brad didn't want to be addicted to heroin. He even tried to quit.

Yes officer..I did not want to go 150,,,I even tried to quit! Get real!!!!!!!

You are missing the concept of addiction.
Addict:1: to give up to a strong habit 2: one addicted to a habit, as to using drugs.
It's the same thing that causes Millions of people to smoke, millions of people to drink coffe, millions of people to eat chocolate! It's not a voluntary thing that he could just give up without trouble (such as speeding). He tried many times. He knew it was bad, but couldn't quit.


He's our role model because of his music and the great person that he was.

Once again....I see it troubling that you all see a herion addict as a "great person"

Well, Thomas Jefferson had an illigitamate child with one of his slaves. But, he made it onto US currency. And, believe it or not, MLK Jr. once picked his nose! It's true.

My point is that everyone makes mistakes or does something not perfect. That doesn't mean they can't also contribute wonderful things to society.


You've probably never even heard a single Sublime song in your life.

I actually like their music. It has a original sound to it.
Amen.

The point is that if and when his video gets on TRL, it will not be a celebration of his flaws, just as it doesn't say "slave-holding-adulterer" on the $20 bill. It would be a memorial to someone who said things in his lyrics that bring on emotions that I don't understand and can't explain.

You might see Brad as a junkie, not worth the time of day, but this isn't for you. This is for his many fans and friends who still miss him and still find happiness in his music. You don't have to vote, but trivializing his life and his accomplishments is something that I see as completely absurd and inappropriate.

Please, can we just forget about this debate. I don't think it's necessary. If anyone doesn't want to vote for sublime, and doesn't want to spread the word...DON'T! This post isn't for you. But please...don't come here and trash someone I love.

RIP Brad, I miss you. Lovin's what I got.

Lizard King
02-21-2001, 03:04 PM
I agree. Just because someone did something stupid and became addicted to it, doesn't make them a bad person. I don't think Rob understands the concept of addiction.

unite@af
02-22-2001, 03:11 AM
Amen Enzo...

P.S Tomorrow night is dedicated to Brad from me its "40 ounces to freedom for me"... Im listening to some of the ole school stuff he did in bars and little hole in the walls and damn i wish I could of been there, Im sure you feel the same way Enzo... PEACE...


"theres a steel train coming through, I would take it if I can and I would not lie to you cause sunday morning soon will come then things will be much easier to say upon the microphone like a boss dj.......... its so nice I wanna hear the same song twice" true dat...

KennyH
02-22-2001, 07:33 AM
I would love to do that- but you guys have to remind me more towards the date

enzo@af
02-22-2001, 02:43 PM
OH yes, I will remind you.

And, just to let you know why unite is celebrating...today would have been Brad's 33rd birthday.

"On the freeway in the county the sun don't shine.
I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel a Bati man.
And outside my cell deputies creep
And in this cell all I do is sleep and dream,
that I'm free."

"I feel like rocking, I wanna rock with you."

enzo@af
02-22-2001, 02:46 PM
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/1785/pics/studio_brad.jpg

Yeah, you know who this is!
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/1785/pics/louiedog.jpg

enzo@af
02-22-2001, 02:47 PM
Anyone else having trouble seeing pictures? I have to right click, show picture to get them to load. Is this just me?

unite@af
02-22-2001, 04:44 PM
I got the same problem Enzo. Yes sir Its his b-day today. Happy 33. One for me One for my Homies.

enzo@af
05-18-2001, 01:41 AM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!!!!

Porsche
05-18-2001, 04:49 PM
You seem to know this guy pretty well, how did you know him?

Heep
05-18-2001, 06:07 PM
I REALLY REALLY hate to bring this back up. I didn't even know this thread existed, but reading it all I have to reply. I see everybody's point, but I'm afraid I have to side with Rob. I understand addiction. But whether this guy was upset about his addiction or not, the fact that he had this addiction should at least temporarily strike out his status as a role model. He obviously seemed to hate his addiction...I can't see him wanting anyone to envy his position. Anyway, his attempts to quit were noble...and we shouldn't concentrate on his flaw, rather his good points. Seriously though, you should hate the fact that he was a druggie if you want to make him a role model...if he got help for his problem, then he hated it too. Maybe you should make it clear that you despise his flaws before you idolize him.

BTW...I love Sublime :D

enzo@af
05-19-2001, 04:32 AM
My mind doesn't say "You know, Brad did a lot of drugs...and I love him for it!". NO! I hate that he had to die that way, and I wish he was still alive writing the greatest music in the world...but, I feel that he needs to be remembered, and by getting them on TRL, maybe it'll do that and maybe some kids doing some drugs might see some consequences.

I never met Brad. I wish I could have. I have seen the other guys in the band (Eric Wilson and Bud Gaugh) at a LBDAS concert.

RIP, Brad.

matt
05-20-2001, 01:49 AM
Sublime had some of the best stuff. I wish Brad was still around so I could see them live. Brings a tear to my eye whenever I think about it. Such great talent....gone.

RIP Brad

enzo@af
05-20-2001, 05:02 AM
Matt...do you listen to LBDAS? I saw them in concert, and they reminded me so much of Sublime. Check 'em out.

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