the judgement day.

boys i need you.. and ami hehe.. well u see, i go to a high school where me and my friends are in the 'popular' croud, right... so now we have got the whole school into cars... 97 type R, 01' lude, 95 civ ex, 98 civ cx, my 90 civ cx, 95 saturn sc2, 3 integras all LS... thats just to name a couple... but ok this is what i need you guys for.. there is this kid, wit a 91 civic si, nonVTEC sohc.. and he is cocky as hell.. and very quick.. he keeps knockin cars off the list... he kills vtecsSOHC and eats ALOT of ppl... he says his motor is from a 89 crx si from japan... keeping in mind its SOHC non vtec... his car SOUNDS like it has some kind of turbo but it doesnt.... he raced the Type R and didnt loose too badly, we all are very confused... and angry cuz we (and even him the owner) doesnt know why the cars so quick.. he has axel back exhuast and intake and plugs.... please please PLEEEEZZZZZZ help us out why his car is so quick!!! ...
here are some cars he has lost too.. but not badly... 95 neon RT, 97 type R integra.. 92 civ ex, vtec, with a chip and ALL yes ALL the bolt on goodies excluding big ones like turbo nos supercharger..

guys u dont understand how fustrating this is.. FFOOCCKK!!!.. alright well.. i guess ill ttyl...

the only engine that i can think of off the top of my head would be the sohc ZC. he might have that...but it shouldnt be able to beat all those cars with just the mods you listed...may there was some internal work done to it before hand....

OK it sounds like a friend of mines zc with a cam and port and polished intake and exhaust. He is also using a 89 teg computer. He smokes most anything that doent have turbo or nos. vtecs he takes with out a problem by a car lenth. I also think he has bigger injectors. but this car flys....:sun:


EDIT: oh ya his cam is custom grind I dont think you can find a supplier for zc mod cams

ok i would like to inform u ppl that he has also beatin a siR del sol with intake.. the kid with the del sol doesnt know hwo to drive it well but the 91 si took it.... and i have another question.. where on our cars is the tag of what kind of motor it is?? plz post a pic or somethin of someone circle where it is.. ya know?? it would help me alot cuz then we could see what the hell it is... and we might check the vins on it.. well see
but please keep posting on helping us come up with a solution..

simple...all motor.

Originally posted by mellowboy
simple...all motor.

lmao.. that has to be the stupidest thing ive ever read in my life.. lmao sorry man.. but OBVIOUSLY!!! its all motor lol.. altho he hasnt touched the motor.. he bought the car this way.. it was a total loss.. but the honda dealership redid it up and sold it to him... real nice car

91 civic si, altezzas (looks so bad lol), nice interior done in red, clear corners n bumpers, its hard to explain, but theres somethin about the car that makes it look real good..

ok? the reason i said all motor is because it is OBVIOUS! What more u need to know? He's probably juice'n who gives a shit? He probably bumped up his compression and with stronger rods, chip ecu? Who knows?

mellowboy ur blowin this outta proportion.. he doesnt have any internals that he knows about.. when he talked to me about his catalytic converter he said... "ya i think im gunna take that filter thingy out in the exhuast"... get real... its the motor... something with the 89 crx si from japan???

Originally posted by sackerius
mellowboy ur blowin this outta proportion.. he doesnt have any internals that he knows about.. when he talked to me about his catalytic converter he said... "ya i think im gunna take that filter thingy out in the exhuast"... get real... its the motor... something with the 89 crx si from japan???

Well its really hard to say man. I mean i have to see it. maybe he's a good driver..who knows? Some guy at a local shop made a stock rex si with only intake ran 15.3's? Not sure if its true but alot of ppl said that they saw him did the run. So it could be possible that he's a good driver. Didn't u say that honda redid it meaning they rebuild it? If so then the motor is fresh and strong again.

if you get a chance to pop his hood, why dont you check to see what kinda engine he has!?

if its dirty, get a rag or something and rub clean the spot with the engine tag ... its in the front left if your facing the block. simplest way to check if its some zc engine or if its stock. btw since he bought it the way it is, the previous owner could have been told what it was and garbbled it up or was just miss informed.

for those of you riding this guys ass, back off, damn all of you ppl need to chill and think rationally for a minute before you reply.

sackerius when you find out what the tag says, we all will have a betteru understand of whats going on.

k you said he lost to a 95 civic ex, even with all the goodies, what that civic runs around a 15.5. and this guy lost to him. fuck a sohc vtec in a 4th gen would run around a 15.5 with bolt ons. it could be a sohc vtec, the 92 sohc vtec engines dont have vtec written on the cover, so it could pass for a sohc nonvtec engine. its kinda hard to hear vtec engage in a sohc vtec engine unless your inside the car. and anyone can play dumb, yah i am gonna take out those sparky thingys and put new better sparky thingys in there, can you help me do it, cause i dont know how.

and tell those rich spoiled kids to get a job and pay for there own cars and dont let daddy pay for everything. theyll get more respect that way. you dont even know how much it pisses me off when i see a kid driving a car cause his daddy bought it for him for getting good grades. i rev those fuckers out everytime

oh and isnt the 89 crx si engine a b16a ?

Originally posted by civickiller


oh and isnt the 89 crx si engine a b16a ?

No its not. It comes with d16a6.

mello, it was said that it, the engine, was from japan, so i think he was refering to that and the answer is no any way, its the zc, the sir had the b16

and i don't wanna sound too much like an asshole to you, but how well can your friends actually drive, so what if its a type r, if your friend can't drive for shit a lesser can quite easily take him, if hes a really good driver... just some food for thought

he might just be full of shit and not have anything from japan. he very well could have a sohc vtec. look for the solenoid. my valve cover doesn't say vtec and people assume it's a d16a6 everyday.

what about a chipped ECU? i think the previous owner did that to my ecu because neither jer or i have hit the rev limiter on the a6 or y8 with that ecu. it has been at 7-7300 rpm quite a few of times. i've beaten a dohc probe, 240 sx, vtec del sol, and a few others with a good reaction time and a lil gear holding....

i dont see how it woudl beat a del sol sir. those are b16 powered. one of my friends has del sol vtec and it fucking smokes my d16z6 powered 91 hatch like it was standing still.

Originally posted by 91civicDXdude
i dont see how it woudl beat a del sol sir. those are b16 powered. one of my friends has del sol vtec and it fucking smokes my d16z6 powered 91 hatch like it was standing still.

Del sol is not that quick man. The dohc is about 15.8 in 1/4 stock.

Thats with the d16z6.... Some del sols came with the b16a though I have never seen one or heard anything about them except when talking about engine swaps.. I guess they are pretty rare? Nice icon ami

Originally posted by QuickSilverEF9
Thats with the d16z6.... Some del sols came with the b16a though I have never seen one or heard anything about them except when talking about engine swaps.. I guess they are pretty rare? Nice icon ami

I'm talkin about the ones with the b16 stock:p

THE reasons his car is fast:

1.ITS A 4th GEN HB. 4thgens RULE!!!!!

2.No offense but either your friends can't drive.

3.Hes a good driver

4.He acting stupid and deep down inside he knows what his car has(I know people like that)

5.He may be useing nitrous

6.And thats all I can think of right now

k well its after school now.. ushually after school we all go out to this one road (like 30 cars of us) and race it up.... the 4th gen guy got lippy to my buddys 01' lude with DOHC vtec h22 in it.. and so the 4th gen thought he could win... so my buddy smoked him lol.. about 3-4 cars in the quarter mile beat..

the 4th gen guy is on his way over right now, and no he doesnt have NOS... i was into 4th gens before he even got his car and i basicaly have guided him through all the stuff he has done.... well hes comin over here and im checkin the tags and stuff and lookin for vtec.. ill tell u all sooon.. ttyl.

well heres the deal - its a d16a6... he doesnt have it chipped, has intake exhuast.. im so mad.. this car MUST have internals done to it then... meh whatever ill just let it go..

pull the head off and check:D

se look somone mentioned early that he probably has internals but you were like your blowin it outta proportion. but now you say he must have internals. and when i race my friend with a 97 lude that has intake, header, and exhaust, i lose by about 3 -4 cars lenghts. and my car is slow, so you saying that his car is fast, i dont think so. why dont you race him and tell us the results

Originally posted by civickiller
why dont you race him and tell us the results

that's what i'm thinking....just make sure you hold your gear til 5 :D

lol i have raced him.. he beat me bad.. like 5 cars.. i have the dpfi.. fuck it sucks... o well ill upgrade soon.

k your times are all off here. he beat you by 5 car lengths, but he lost to a 95 civic ex and a prelude. a prelude runs around a 15.4, and your civic runs probably around a 17 and 5 car lengths would be faster than a 15.4 but you said he lost to the prelude and the civic. so your times are all off.

I think um..............:thinkerg: B.S.