supercharger

i have a 1995 lesabre custome. i was wondering how hard it would to buy a used supercharger and put it on my car. how much a used one might cost, and what additional parts i may need. how much more horsepower might this give me? anyone know about this?:grinyes:

If the motor is NA, then a SC is NOT a simple bolt-on part.

We'll i once owned a 90 buick lesaber and it had a 3.8L supercharged and it was pretty quick and fun to drive =). So really i would need to know what engine you currently have in your car now? And if it isn't the 3.8L you will have to get a better trans just to hold the power from the sc , so if you could let me know alittle more information and i can find you alot more about your question.

Hopfully this helps .

i have a 1995 lesabre custome. i was wondering how hard it would to buy a used supercharger and put it on my car. how much a used one might cost, and what additional parts i may need. how much more horsepower might this give me? anyone know about this?:grinyes:
My guess would be...

camshaft, intake manifold, engine wiring harness, ecm and or prom, drive pulley arrangement, engine sensors, air intake/filter setup, all kinds of vacuum hoses, fuel lines, etc.

Quite a lot in my opinion. Yes, they can be relatively fast for the size/weight of the car, but I think in the end you are better to just find a different car for performance unless you are into the sleeper sort of thing.

The engine is the 3.8 SII.

Yeah i will agree with u Whoaru99 it really comes down to two basic factors . (A) Do you really want to spend that kinda money (B) Do you really think it's worth it? I mean if u have the money and the equipment yes it can b done but it aint easy. I would go ahed and * this is just me * but i would go ahead and find a nice car like even a camaro or a stang or tunner? Whatever your prefference is and just go ahead and make that quick atleast in the long run it will be worth sumthing .

Just my two cents hopfully it helps .

Good Luck

And, if you could keep me updated .

i have a 1995 lesabre custome
The engine is the 3.8 SII.
Andrewhuffman
That is a strange combination, a 1995 LeSabre with a S11 engine! The LeSabre did not come from the factory with that engine until 1996. Has the car already had a complete engine swap?

I like trivia issues. Actually GM introduced the Series II 3800 Vin "K" in 1995 but I'm not sure it made it into '95 LeSabre models but you never know. '96 and up for sure.

Easy enough to tell by looking at the 8th digit of the VIN:

Vin "L" = 3.8L SI
Vin "K" = 3800 SII

Actually, the Park Avenue came with the S11 engine in 1995, but it was not available in the LeSabre until 96.:sorry: no Vin K, 95 LeSabre's ever made to sell:disappoin

Actually, the Park Avenue came with the S11 engine in 1995, but it was not available in the LeSabre until 96.:sorry: no Vin K, 95 LeSabre's ever made to sell:disappoin

I'll buy that explanation Bo. Oh, don't forget the '95 Riviera.

I like trivia issues. Actually GM introduced the Series II 3800 Vin "K" in 1995 but I'm not sure it made it into '95 LeSabre models but you never know. '96 and up for sure.

Easy enough to tell by looking at the 8th digit of the VIN:

Vin "L" = 3.8L SI
Vin "K" = 3800 SII

I bought a 95 LeSabre used in 96 (for $16,400) and it had a 3800 SII and I'm certain it was factory installed (I got it with 23,000 miles on it). Side note: I sold it in 1998 for $11,000 to go to law school (which hasn't helped me one bit).

How do I know it had a SII? Before I knew anything about the 3800, I remember looking at the plastic piece under my hood and it said 3800 Series II on it. That memory stuck with me.

I bought a 95 LeSabre used in 96 (for $16,400) and it had a 3800 SII and I'm certain it was factory installed (I got it with 23,000 miles on it). Side note: I sold it in 1998 for $11,000 to go to law school (which hasn't helped me one bit).

How do I know it had a SII? Before I knew anything about the 3800, I remember looking at the plastic piece under my hood and it said 3800 Series II on it. That memory stuck with me.

I wouldn't doubt that on the final '95 production run on the LeSabre later in 1995 GM switched over to the SII 3800, Vin "K". 1995 was the weird transitional year for GM. Other than what appears to be a few exceptions the majority of the '95 models do have the Vin "L" 3800 with the plastic cover with the coutout that shows the channels on the UIM. The plastic cover was marked "3800 Tuned Port Injection".

But if true that would explain the fully odb-ii compliant versions of the '95 LeSabre that are floating around.

Here is a pic from a '96 LeSabre engine compartment:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/lizzywiz/96lesabre.jpg

I just bought a 96 Park Ave and it has that Cover on the engine that says " 3800 series II, i was almost shocked and thought it was a supercharged engine but no to my dispair it wasn't :cwm27:

I dont have one of those engine covers. but i am pertty sure it is a SII. My car was bought used a year ago with 95K, i'm cant tell if its had an engine swap, but the carfax report said it had only 2 previous owners with a rearend wreck. I raced a 05 SII , and tied all the way down the road, but my tires were balled and way out of alignment. Im going to race again to see if an alignment makes a diffrence.

I dont have one of those engine covers. but i am pertty sure it is a SII.

Check the 8th digit of your Vehicle Identification Number "VIN".

If you see a "K" then it is a Series II 3800.

its can be done but it would be better to goto the junkyard and find a SeriesII SC engine w/ the trans pull it out and do an engine swap. i can sell you one out of a 98 gtp with 88k in it for 2300 :) i was gona do it with my olds 88 but i cant find the time :(

Too bad you're in Delaware... :(

maybe if my enjine ever decides to die, but i think i paid less then for my whole car.

it is a vin L

it is a vin L Thanks for the feedback! I have never heard of a VIN "K" 1995! In fact, it is not even listed in the dealer parts manual! I was hoping that there was one on the road, after all this positive feedback that there may be such an animal!:screwy:

The proof is in the pudding on the original poster's engine. The VIN ID is what counts in order to give proper advice.

I'm trying to be neutral in this this matter. But you never know Bo. Never say never. From annecdotal information I'm hearing otherwise. GM has done weird things and just because dealer's parts manuals to include AC Delco doesn't mean certain 1995 LeSabres did not have the SII 3800 Vin "K". You'd have to look at the factory production records. Also, I've seen annotations from aftermarket parts suppliers too making an inference. Here is one example from Ken-Co on aftermarket UIM plenum kits.

http://ken-co.com/manifold/default.htm

My brother is a GM SM and he claims he has seen and serviced 1995 LeSabres with a Series II 3800. :dunno:

However, I'm from Missouri. Seeing would be believing. The saga continues. :lol:

:popcorn:

At this point, all we have is speculation and hearsay that a VIN “K” 1995 was ever made! I guess now, we must ask if anyone out there has a VIN "K" 1995 Buick LeSabre with a complete VIN #? :1zhelp:If we have the VIN #, it could be verified! I would not put much faith in aftermarket supplier fitment details. Your right Bob, “the proof is in the pudding”.:sleeping:
:popcorn:

At this point, all we have is speculation and hearsay that a VIN “K” 1995 was ever made! I guess now, we must ask if anyone out there has a VIN "K" 1995 Buick LeSabre with a complete VIN #? :1zhelp:If we have the VIN #, it could be verified! I would not put much faith in aftermarket supplier fitment details. Your right Bob, “the proof is in the pudding”.:sleeping:
:popcorn:


:werd:

Hey I am the one from Missouri.....lol. A pic of the engine compartment and VIN number would convince me. All I've ever seen in real life are VIN "L" for 1995. That include a 95 LeSabre I rented back in 1995 at Disneyworld (Orlando, FL).

BTW - What happened to our lawyer friend?

I bought a 95 LeSabre used in 96 (for $16,400) and it had a 3800 SII and I'm certain it was factory installed (I got it with 23,000 miles on it). Side note: I sold it in 1998 for $11,000 to go to law school (which hasn't helped me one bit).

How do I know it had a SII? Before I knew anything about the 3800, I remember looking at the plastic piece under my hood and it said 3800 Series II on it. That memory stuck with me.


Edit Update:

Why does this GM TSB on the UIM plenum problem address 1995 - 1998 Buick LeSabre?


File In Section: 06 - Engine/Propulsion System

Bulletin No.: 01-06-01-007A

Date: July, 2001

TECHNICAL

Subject:

Engine Coolant Consumption or Coolant Leak

(Inspect For Material Degradation/Replace Intake Manifolds)

Models:

1995-1997 Buick Riviera
1995-1998 Buick LeSabre, Park Avenue
1996-1998 Buick Regal
1998 Chevrolet Lumina, Monte Carlo
1995-1996 Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight
1995-1998 Oldsmobile Eighty-Eight
1998 Oldsmobile Intrigue
1995-1998 Pontiac Bonneville
1997-1998 Pontiac Grand Prix
with 3.8L Engine (VIN K - RPO L36)

This bulletin is being revised to correct parts and labor operation usage. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 01-06-01-007 (Section 6 - Engine/Propulsion System).

Condition

Some owners may comment on excessive engine coolant consumption, or an engine coolant leak near or under the throttle body area of the upper intake manifold.

Cause

Upper intake manifold composite material may degrade around the EGR stove pipe and could result in an internal or external coolant leak.

Correction

1. Follow the upper intake manifold removal instructions found in the Engine Unit Repair Section of the Service Information Manual.


2. Refer to the arrow in the illustration of the upper intake manifold above. Inspect the inner diameter of the EGR passage for signs of material degradation. Degradation will appear as "pitting" of the composite material in the EGR port passage.


3. If degradation of upper intake manifold composite material is found, replace the lower and upper intake manifolds with the following part numbers:

^Lower Intake - 24508923


^Upper Intake - 17113136 (includes necessary upper intake plenum gaskets)

^Lower Intake Gasket - 12537197



4. Follow the lower and upper intake manifold installation instructions found in the Engine Unit Repair Section of the appropriate Service Manual.


5. If degradation is not apparent, skip to Step 7.


6. Verify the repair.


7. If no degradation is found, evaluate the vehicle for other causes of excessive coolant consumption as noted in the Engine Diagnosis Section of the appropriate Service Manual.

Parts Information

Parts are currently available from GMSPO.

I am not being devious here,:devil: in fact; I would enjoy nothing more than to be able to uncover the existence of a 1995 VIN “K” LeSabre! If I could find one for sale, I would have to buy it, because it would be a classic in the making. I just did a search for all the 1995 LeSabre’s for sale in the in the nation @ AutoTrader.com & found 178 matches. Unfortunately, there were none listed with a VIN “K”. I realize this was a small sampling of the production run, therefore, I will continue to search for this rare commodity. Again, if anyone has one, or can find one for us, please post your findings here with pics and a VIN number. Come on guys, there has to be at least one VIN “K” out there, out of the 165,315 LeSabre’s produced in 1995!:1zhelp:
:sadwavey:

1995 Buick LeSabre Model Year
Production run: Oct. 1994 through Sept. 1995
Total number produced: 165,315
Total no. sold in U.S.: 142,624

Too bad you're in Delaware... :(


lol ill take pictures of it so we can all dream plus i kinda got tired of looking for an lss PCM for the SII